| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 13:26 - Jul 4 with 4451 views | enfieldargh |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:20 - Jul 4 by Hayesender |
Hull handed three window ban now as well |
Defaulted on 1 million pound lone fee for Louis Barry |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:07 - Jul 4 with 4288 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:27 - Jul 4 by Northernr |
Well Edwards was necessary and a success. |
It was, however, I'm a great believer that if you are having to loan players in, then there is something wrong with your 1st team squad and DS squad.
The Mbengue signing helps rectify that. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:11 - Jul 4 with 4280 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:07 - Jul 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
It was, however, I'm a great believer that if you are having to loan players in, then there is something wrong with your 1st team squad and DS squad.
The Mbengue signing helps rectify that. |
Essentially, yes, correct. But I think most teams in our budget range in the Championship would probably require a loan if CB1 (Steve Cook), CB2 (Jake Clarke-Salter) and CB4 (Liam Morrison) all got injured at the same time as CB3 (Jimmy Dunne) is needed at right back/going to Sheff Utd.
You can't really afford to carry first team standard centre backs at fifth and sixth choice on our sort of wage bill. In fact we were pretty fortunate to have somebody as experienced as Morgan Fox effectively as that fifth choice.
Parachute payment clubs might be able to cope with losing four centre backs at once, but not at our level. Portsmouth, similar sort of bracket to us I expect, had to go get Rob Atkinson on loan. I very much doubt Preston's fifth choice centre back is up to much.
QPR were a bit unlucky there. If Cook, JCS and Morrison are all injured at the end of December again then they'll probably be getting a loan again Mbengue or not because Fox is gone.
Where it's really unforgiveable is shit CF1 Lyndon Dykes gets injured and you have to go get Christ Martin.
I'll forgive them Edwards, and not just cos he's dreamy.
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:12 - Jul 4 with 4277 views | QPRSam |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:07 - Jul 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
It was, however, I'm a great believer that if you are having to loan players in, then there is something wrong with your 1st team squad and DS squad.
The Mbengue signing helps rectify that. |
On the contrary, does the Edwards loan signing not show how it should and can be done? The possibility of getting players above our grade for far cheaper?
I understand when you're a middling team you would want your own players to get the gametime, but would anyone have thought before 10/11 we would win the league? I like to think Walker, Tommy Smith, Routledge and Miller all played huge roles in that [Post edited 4 Jul 14:13]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:21 - Jul 4 with 4222 views | cyprusmel |
Hull say they have now paid the million pound owed and are going to appeal the ban.
Barrys wiki page said he only made 4 appearances. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:28 - Jul 4 with 4188 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:21 - Jul 4 by cyprusmel |
Hull say they have now paid the million pound owed and are going to appeal the ban.
Barrys wiki page said he only made 4 appearances. |
Yeh he got injured almost immediately after moving. The two big headline Premier League loans last January were him and Danns and they both got crocked before the month was out.
Hull Daily Mail report it's not just the Barry fee, and it's not the first time - you wouldn't just get slapped with a three window ban if this was the first time and a bit of an admin error.
Rumours been going round the city of late payments to local suppliers at the stadium. It always starts like that - the local florist or the St John's Ambulance don't get paid, oh don't worry about it, admin error, nothing to see here. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:34 - Jul 4 with 4139 views | ted_hendrix |
Any club who make late payments to local businesses should be docked 10 points per business.
Fck transfer fees. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:46 - Jul 4 with 4098 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:34 - Jul 4 by ted_hendrix |
Any club who make late payments to local businesses should be docked 10 points per business.
Fck transfer fees. |
I don't know if it's still true but there was an infamous 'stat' for a long time that every single club in the UK that had entered administration did so owing money to St John's Ambulance, who then had to get in line for their 10p in the pound while "all football debts must be settled in full". | | | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:49 - Jul 4 with 4076 views | Lanhoop |
As wrong as it seems the football debts being paid in full, which is an EFL rule, does make sense otherwise a team/owner doing a Chansiri could bring down other clubs with it. No one would do any transfer business with any team on that basis. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:02 - Jul 4 with 3996 views | simmo |
To add to the loan discussions, the other issue that's come about in recent years is PL teams being able to get huge amounts of financial comp for loaning their stars.
It used to be that clubs in the Championship could take an academy star from the PL that could genuinely elevate the team, in exchange for a small wage contriution and giving that player some proper football experience. Bamford, Harvey Barnes, Mount, Taarabt, Guehi, Wilson, Ake, Reece James, Martinez, Gallagher, etc. Any one of those would cost millions to borrow now.
At the same time PL academy numbers have swollen, which means the only loans that are affordable for non parachute clubs are 20 something academy veterans with minimal pro appearances that will probably never be PL standard. If you want the needle movers, you have to cover wages and pay a loan fee, which means Sheff U pay £3-5m to get Rak Saki to come off their bench, and we get Ashby because we have a mate on the Newcastle board.
It's a shame PL teams aren't more strategic with their placement of young talent, sending them to places to maximise their development rather than whoever will pay the most. Would make the Championship more competitive too. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:58 - Jul 4 with 3841 views | JamesB1979 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:21 - Jul 4 by DavieQPR |
Reported in Telegraph that Hull now have transfer ban. |
Wish we’d had a transfer ban when we were in the Premier League. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:07 - Jul 4 with 3798 views | lassel |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 10:26 - Jul 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Loans were one of the disappointments of last season. Nourry very clearly said he didn't like loans unless they were with a view to a permanent deal.
Hopefully this season, with the squad more balanced, the loans that come in do have the permanent option.
I think last seasons, bar Saito, were done in blind panic. Though Yang was a weird one. |
At the risk of dredging up a boring topic, Nourry has said many things that have less than a ships passing in the night relationship with the truth.
They’ll take loans if good ones are offered to them because they want/need success asap. A man who pays a PR company to write copy calling him ‘the Lionel Messi of football backrooms’ cannot afford a third season in a row of 16th and below finishes in the championship… | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:47 - Jul 4 with 3606 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:07 - Jul 4 by lassel |
At the risk of dredging up a boring topic, Nourry has said many things that have less than a ships passing in the night relationship with the truth.
They’ll take loans if good ones are offered to them because they want/need success asap. A man who pays a PR company to write copy calling him ‘the Lionel Messi of football backrooms’ cannot afford a third season in a row of 16th and below finishes in the championship… |
I wish you'd been there to tell the Board not to buy Richards or loan in Laird, Roberts and Iroebugnan. i wonder what loan fees we paid for the latter three or wages for Richards. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:56 - Jul 4 with 3430 views | kensalriser |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:07 - Jul 4 by lassel |
At the risk of dredging up a boring topic, Nourry has said many things that have less than a ships passing in the night relationship with the truth.
They’ll take loans if good ones are offered to them because they want/need success asap. A man who pays a PR company to write copy calling him ‘the Lionel Messi of football backrooms’ cannot afford a third season in a row of 16th and below finishes in the championship… |
Good news - we finished above 16th last year. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:46 - Jul 5 with 3103 views | Doudou87 |
Kyogo Furuhashi 10m! Birmingham really going for it, also Derby rumoured to be spending up to 7m on an American striker. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:09 - Jul 5 with 2997 views | BlameMcLintock |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:46 - Jul 5 by Doudou87 |
Kyogo Furuhashi 10m! Birmingham really going for it, also Derby rumoured to be spending up to 7m on an American striker. |
Kelman? |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:44 - Jul 5 with 2883 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:46 - Jul 5 by Doudou87 |
Kyogo Furuhashi 10m! Birmingham really going for it, also Derby rumoured to be spending up to 7m on an American striker. |
I'm really not bothered about these clubs spending loads. I'd sooner we do what we are doing rather than mortgaging the club on players that may not workout.
We should be chuffed with the business we've done. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:44 - Jul 5 with 2891 views | eastside_r |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:46 - Jul 5 by Doudou87 |
Kyogo Furuhashi 10m! Birmingham really going for it, also Derby rumoured to be spending up to 7m on an American striker. |
Blimey, he was some player at Celtic a few years ago (the usual caveats apply.) |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:53 - Jul 5 with 2832 views | CamberleyR |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 09:12 - Jul 4 by Northernr |
It's dead money as well a loan unless it takes you up or keeps you up.
What have Sheff Utd got for that £2m?
Just prior to Derby's collapse they had Mason Mount, Harry Wilson and Fikayo Tomori all on loan. |
"Just prior to Derby's collapse they had Mason Mount, Harry Wilson and Fikayo Tomori all on loan."
And Lampard still couldn't get them promoted. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:23 - Jul 6 with 2106 views | Gus_iom |
They've also signed a 30 yr old Japanese striker for £10m, apparently. He'll of a lot for a championship side to spend on someone with no resale value.
Still, level playing field, and all that. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:17 - Jul 6 with 1945 views | DavieQPR |
All of Brum's three big signings are coming off the back of pretty poor seasons. Seem to be signing on what they were rather than what they are. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:06 - Jul 6 with 1729 views | BrizR |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:17 - Jul 6 by DavieQPR |
All of Brum's three big signings are coming off the back of pretty poor seasons. Seem to be signing on what they were rather than what they are. |
Spendy new owners hoovering up aging players based off their rep a few years ago? I've heard this one before... | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:24 - Jul 7 with 1354 views | bosh67 |
Norwich City are closing in on the signing of Brondby forward Mathias Kvistgaarden for an initial fee, believed to be about £6.9m. 23 goals in 38 games and 23 years old but.................... where are Norwich getting £6.9m from and what does that say about the cost of strikers in the future for the likes of us? |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:30 - Jul 7 with 1315 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:24 - Jul 7 by bosh67 |
Norwich City are closing in on the signing of Brondby forward Mathias Kvistgaarden for an initial fee, believed to be about £6.9m. 23 goals in 38 games and 23 years old but.................... where are Norwich getting £6.9m from and what does that say about the cost of strikers in the future for the likes of us? |
In the last 12 months Norwich have received £12m from Marseille for Jonathan Rowe, £15m from Galatasaray for Gabriel Sara, £8m from Celtic for Adam Idah, £5m from Hull for Abu Kamara, £3m from Dusseldorf for Christos Tzolis.
Been saying it for years, we need regular significant player sales in this division. Without them, or parachute payments, we can't spend. In the last 12 months we've got £3m for Dykes and Armstrong. | | | |
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