| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:21 - Aug 5 with 2950 views | JamesB1979 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:15 - Aug 5 by BazzaInTheLoft |
'We can’t criticise anyone who played for us?'
This hasn't been said by anyone. |
He said because they’ve forged football careers and haven’t haven’t bad mouthed the club, how can we criticise them? That could include everyone except likes of Barton. Or have I got that completely wrong. |  | |  |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:31 - Aug 5 with 2901 views | francisbowles |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:21 - Aug 5 by JamesB1979 |
He said because they’ve forged football careers and haven’t haven’t bad mouthed the club, how can we criticise them? That could include everyone except likes of Barton. Or have I got that completely wrong. |
Yeh but there's constructive criticism and slagging people off. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:38 - Aug 5 with 2853 views | JamesB1979 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:31 - Aug 5 by francisbowles |
Yeh but there's constructive criticism and slagging people off. |
Well I have never slagged a player off at a match. But personally I think I could count on one hand the criticism of a player on message boards that can be seen as “constructive”. That’s just football in my view. It’s good to have a rant about a player now and then. Kakay I quite liked due to his attitude. Niko, well, I’ll leave it there. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:51 - Aug 5 with 2777 views | TK1 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:38 - Aug 5 by JamesB1979 |
Well I have never slagged a player off at a match. But personally I think I could count on one hand the criticism of a player on message boards that can be seen as “constructive”. That’s just football in my view. It’s good to have a rant about a player now and then. Kakay I quite liked due to his attitude. Niko, well, I’ll leave it there. |
You can slag off who you want, I don't care. But on this thread about *other Championship transfers in the summer of 2025*, for some reason you and Lassel are arguing about the comparative careers of Niko Hämäläinen and Osman Kakay. You do you, baby, but who cares about Hämäläinen and Kakay and how their careers are going, especially in this context? That's all I'm saying. One left in 2023 and the other in 2024 and yet they're routinely summoned for a little snark.
There's a huge, almost infinitely long list of former QPR youth stars who've gone to have extremely underwhelming careers as footballers, do you wanna just roll some others out for a little bitch too? [Post edited 5 Aug 15:52]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:56 - Aug 5 with 2745 views | JamesB1979 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:51 - Aug 5 by TK1 |
You can slag off who you want, I don't care. But on this thread about *other Championship transfers in the summer of 2025*, for some reason you and Lassel are arguing about the comparative careers of Niko Hämäläinen and Osman Kakay. You do you, baby, but who cares about Hämäläinen and Kakay and how their careers are going, especially in this context? That's all I'm saying. One left in 2023 and the other in 2024 and yet they're routinely summoned for a little snark.
There's a huge, almost infinitely long list of former QPR youth stars who've gone to have extremely underwhelming careers as footballers, do you wanna just roll some others out for a little bitch too? [Post edited 5 Aug 15:52]
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The conversation went at a tangent about agents. Doesn’t that tend to happen in discussions? Anyway, let’s move on. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:27 - Aug 5 with 2439 views | Northernr |
And, of course, no surprise to see...
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:29 - Aug 5 with 2436 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:27 - Aug 5 by Northernr |
And, of course, no surprise to see...
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Best player for Birmingham every time I saw him play.
Came to us and turned into Bob Malcolm. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:31 - Aug 5 with 2427 views | dm97 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:27 - Aug 5 by Northernr |
And, of course, no surprise to see...
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‘What manager wants manager gets’ comes to mind at Derby this summer…That’s never got them into issues before |  | | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:19 - Aug 5 with 2321 views | Myke |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:31 - Aug 5 by dm97 |
‘What manager wants manager gets’ comes to mind at Derby this summer…That’s never got them into issues before |
I will say it now before a ball is kicked in anger. Derby will be a good outside bet for a play-off spot. With the signings they have made, plus a very astute Championship manager, I fully expect them to be there or thereabouts. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:37 - Aug 5 with 2257 views | 100percent |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:19 - Aug 5 by Myke |
I will say it now before a ball is kicked in anger. Derby will be a good outside bet for a play-off spot. With the signings they have made, plus a very astute Championship manager, I fully expect them to be there or thereabouts. |
Kind of agree... although I also think Norwich with Manning at the helm will be strong and my outside bet would be on Millwall to give it a good go....
Although Sanderson is the worst of Derby's free spending pre season trolly dash... [Post edited 5 Aug 22:39]
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 23:23 - Aug 5 with 2142 views | joolsyp |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:19 - Aug 5 by Myke |
I will say it now before a ball is kicked in anger. Derby will be a good outside bet for a play-off spot. With the signings they have made, plus a very astute Championship manager, I fully expect them to be there or thereabouts. |
I have them squeaking into the playoffs this season under Eustace. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:07 - Aug 6 with 1637 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 22:19 - Aug 5 by Myke |
I will say it now before a ball is kicked in anger. Derby will be a good outside bet for a play-off spot. With the signings they have made, plus a very astute Championship manager, I fully expect them to be there or thereabouts. |
I’d take a cheeky wager on them finishing bottom half. Charity tenner? | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:07 - Aug 6 with 1549 views | Myke |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 14:07 - Aug 6 by Watford_Ranger |
I’d take a cheeky wager on them finishing bottom half. Charity tenner? |
Versus top half or making the play-offs? I see them as a 6 -10th | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:11 - Aug 6 with 1531 views | wombat |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 21:31 - Aug 5 by dm97 |
‘What manager wants manager gets’ comes to mind at Derby this summer…That’s never got them into issues before |
agree and disagree , hes picked up some good solid signings , players he knows and prob trusts , is that a better approach than telling your coach get to work with this lot of ballers ? you might be lucky one might be half decent good luck with the rest , and ps when it does go wrong it aint my fauly obv . oh and ps we havent got a fully fit striker in the club so once again not my fault either |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:26 - Aug 6 with 1482 views | Rsole |
‘Simply the best, better than all the rest’ |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:27 - Aug 6 with 1477 views | Rsole |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:26 - Aug 6 by Rsole |
‘Simply the best, better than all the rest’ |
(That was meant to be in reply to the Tina Sanderson-Turner picture) | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:14 - Aug 6 with 1388 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:11 - Aug 6 by wombat |
agree and disagree , hes picked up some good solid signings , players he knows and prob trusts , is that a better approach than telling your coach get to work with this lot of ballers ? you might be lucky one might be half decent good luck with the rest , and ps when it does go wrong it aint my fauly obv . oh and ps we havent got a fully fit striker in the club so once again not my fault either |
yes cos it went so well letting Beale bring in Taylor Richards, Tim Iroebugnan, Tyler Roberts and Ethan Laird. Or Harry Redknapp bringing in Sandro, triffic lad. We've changed that model because we kept getting a whole new squad for each new manager instead of getting the right manager to work with your existing squad. We're trying to develop players because we have one of the lowest budgets in the league.
We're not Derby and Stephan isn't Eustace.
We''ve tried tearing up the strategy every season. That was shit. Now you want to tear up it up again before the season has started and the transfer window has shut? |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:33 - Aug 6 with 1328 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:14 - Aug 6 by nix |
yes cos it went so well letting Beale bring in Taylor Richards, Tim Iroebugnan, Tyler Roberts and Ethan Laird. Or Harry Redknapp bringing in Sandro, triffic lad. We've changed that model because we kept getting a whole new squad for each new manager instead of getting the right manager to work with your existing squad. We're trying to develop players because we have one of the lowest budgets in the league.
We're not Derby and Stephan isn't Eustace.
We''ve tried tearing up the strategy every season. That was shit. Now you want to tear up it up again before the season has started and the transfer window has shut? |
Bang on Nix. The club (Nourry) has deemed it quite rightly appropriate to put a very specific strategy in place and there will be no return to the old, constantly failing, process of changing managers and handing them the keys.
If we have a bumpy start, which is likely looking at the potential lack of availability of numerous players, it’s critical that everybody holds their nerve and leave their pitchforks in the garden shed.
A couple of early losses and this forum could go into meltdown. Everyone needs to bite their lip and trust in the process……now that we appear to have one. Apparently. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 6 with 1222 views | Rsole |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:33 - Aug 6 by Burnleyhoop |
Bang on Nix. The club (Nourry) has deemed it quite rightly appropriate to put a very specific strategy in place and there will be no return to the old, constantly failing, process of changing managers and handing them the keys.
If we have a bumpy start, which is likely looking at the potential lack of availability of numerous players, it’s critical that everybody holds their nerve and leave their pitchforks in the garden shed.
A couple of early losses and this forum could go into meltdown. Everyone needs to bite their lip and trust in the process……now that we appear to have one. Apparently. |
Unfortunately, it’s not a proven process at QPR, far from it. There’s also the question of trust regarding some of the key decision makers.
What happens if the process doesn’t work and we subsequently fire the coach after ten games without winning for example ? I know that’s extreme but it’s possible and at that stage, the owners will probably start taking decisions away from the people who implemented the process.
Maybe we then swap out the coach - again - but the same underperforming players that the CEO/DOF recruited remain.
As for the fans, I don’t see why they shouldn’t be vocal if the above happens, given what has taken place at the club in recent years. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:55 - Aug 6 with 1173 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 6 by Rsole |
Unfortunately, it’s not a proven process at QPR, far from it. There’s also the question of trust regarding some of the key decision makers.
What happens if the process doesn’t work and we subsequently fire the coach after ten games without winning for example ? I know that’s extreme but it’s possible and at that stage, the owners will probably start taking decisions away from the people who implemented the process.
Maybe we then swap out the coach - again - but the same underperforming players that the CEO/DOF recruited remain.
As for the fans, I don’t see why they shouldn’t be vocal if the above happens, given what has taken place at the club in recent years. |
Shut up and do as you’re told. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 6 with 1147 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 6 by Rsole |
Unfortunately, it’s not a proven process at QPR, far from it. There’s also the question of trust regarding some of the key decision makers.
What happens if the process doesn’t work and we subsequently fire the coach after ten games without winning for example ? I know that’s extreme but it’s possible and at that stage, the owners will probably start taking decisions away from the people who implemented the process.
Maybe we then swap out the coach - again - but the same underperforming players that the CEO/DOF recruited remain.
As for the fans, I don’t see why they shouldn’t be vocal if the above happens, given what has taken place at the club in recent years. |
I've got no problem if the fans get vocal if that happens.But it's a lot of ifs in there carrying the weight of your negative presumption.
Talk about losing every single match is a bit premature when some of the 'underperforming players' haven't even started a Championship match yet. Can you remember a squad in the last ten seasons where there haven't been some poor recruitment as well as some good players? If so, please let me know which one?
Football recruitment is clearly not an exact science as you can see from howlers from Man U and Chelsea. But after years of no apparent strategy which was apparenly fine, it would be nice to give an actual strategy at least the first few weeks of the season. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:28 - Aug 6 with 1104 views | Lblock |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:33 - Aug 6 by Burnleyhoop |
Bang on Nix. The club (Nourry) has deemed it quite rightly appropriate to put a very specific strategy in place and there will be no return to the old, constantly failing, process of changing managers and handing them the keys.
If we have a bumpy start, which is likely looking at the potential lack of availability of numerous players, it’s critical that everybody holds their nerve and leave their pitchforks in the garden shed.
A couple of early losses and this forum could go into meltdown. Everyone needs to bite their lip and trust in the process……now that we appear to have one. Apparently. |
I think the frustration and views of a lot of us is that "the strategy" is one that stands a real chance of getting us relegated.
We all know the Championship is a proper battle.
As King Warnock said "Y've gotta f'kin die for three point's" and therefore solid Championship squads need a blend to survive.
So far this close season our best and most stand out signing for me has been Jimmy Dunne.
Wonderful getting players like Poku etc and looking to drag others out of the DS.
However we've already run that U-bend mightily close on more than one occasion due to poor and unbalanced recruitment. I really want to see two more proven players at this level, three if possible but I'm mindful of budgets.
No prizes from the top shelf for seeing those three would be left back, CM and that unicorn player formerly known as a goal scoring striker.
In respect of those "early losses" I think people might be entitled to lose their shit a little bit if they come against PNE and Charlton with no striker playing for us and we get skinned down our left hand side.
We'll see I suppose but currently I'm looking at teams like Derby, Millwall, Swansea, PNE etc who look to have more attritional squads than us and thinking we'll struggle to compete with them across the next 5 months.
That doesn't leave many other contenders to be below us by three places. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:36 - Aug 6 with 1078 views | Rsole |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 6 by nix |
I've got no problem if the fans get vocal if that happens.But it's a lot of ifs in there carrying the weight of your negative presumption.
Talk about losing every single match is a bit premature when some of the 'underperforming players' haven't even started a Championship match yet. Can you remember a squad in the last ten seasons where there haven't been some poor recruitment as well as some good players? If so, please let me know which one?
Football recruitment is clearly not an exact science as you can see from howlers from Man U and Chelsea. But after years of no apparent strategy which was apparenly fine, it would be nice to give an actual strategy at least the first few weeks of the season. |
It’s not a presumption - it’s a possible scenario when you don’t have many striking options, don’t score many goals and have a somewhat leaky defence.
No one said that the recruitment was better or worse but there’s now only one throat to choke on that front. Changing the coach (again) won’t correct any recruitment mistakes if they are not involved in it, but that’s the most likely outcome if the team doesn’t perform.
Having a strategy is fine - if it works. If it doesn’t, then maybe the coach shouldn’t be the one that’s fired.
Blindly trusting an unproven process has nothing to do with strategy. That’s called hope and hope is definitely not a strategy.
A proven process, that works season after season, is an entirely different matter. Combine that with a strategy, a decent coach, the right culture, progressive owners etc and you probably have a good chance of success. Still not guaranteed but at least you have the odds in your favour - just as long as you don’t get relegated in the meantime. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:38 - Aug 6 with 1071 views | Rsole |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:55 - Aug 6 by Northernr |
Shut up and do as you’re told. |
Ok, Dad. | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:18 - Aug 6 with 972 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:28 - Aug 6 by Lblock |
I think the frustration and views of a lot of us is that "the strategy" is one that stands a real chance of getting us relegated.
We all know the Championship is a proper battle.
As King Warnock said "Y've gotta f'kin die for three point's" and therefore solid Championship squads need a blend to survive.
So far this close season our best and most stand out signing for me has been Jimmy Dunne.
Wonderful getting players like Poku etc and looking to drag others out of the DS.
However we've already run that U-bend mightily close on more than one occasion due to poor and unbalanced recruitment. I really want to see two more proven players at this level, three if possible but I'm mindful of budgets.
No prizes from the top shelf for seeing those three would be left back, CM and that unicorn player formerly known as a goal scoring striker.
In respect of those "early losses" I think people might be entitled to lose their shit a little bit if they come against PNE and Charlton with no striker playing for us and we get skinned down our left hand side.
We'll see I suppose but currently I'm looking at teams like Derby, Millwall, Swansea, PNE etc who look to have more attritional squads than us and thinking we'll struggle to compete with them across the next 5 months.
That doesn't leave many other contenders to be below us by three places. |
I agree to some extent with all of that and I've said it myself that there's a risk that we've gone too far in the future focus direction and that we need precisely those positions you mentioned.
I don't think that means we'll lose our first ten matches though. And what's the point in presenting that as a scenario apart from whipping up anger before the season has started and the transfer window closed.
As for who will be below us most commentators think Sheff Wed (surely not controversial), Hull and Preston at the very least. Stoke and Oxford Utd are other candidates mentioned.
But if we do lose the first ten, I will agree with your ffrustration. | | | |
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