| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:28 - Aug 8 with 2227 views | loftus77 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 11:15 - Aug 8 by davman |
Just so frustrated that we always start a season undercooked and end up playing catch up.
It'd be lovely to start without a defeat for 2-3 matches, but I feel it is more likely that we will be looking for our first win after 3, which is just frustrating.
Will it be the end of the world? No, of course not, but if we were to lose to Preston and Charlton at home and Watford away they are not good results in the context of a league where we HAVE to be better than those teams.
So, I get the "chill out, its a long season", but... |
No worries, davman. I , for one, totally agree.
As has been said before, this particular season is unique and different. For on-and-off the field reasons, we need to start well, beginning tomorrow.
I said in another post that 4 wins out of the first 10 league would go a long way to hopefully start asking the 'Marti Who?' question, which has to happen quickly if we are to have any sort of season..
If we are camped in the bottom 3 or 4 in late Sep/Oct we (imho) are staying there this time. |  | |  |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:15 - Aug 8 with 1990 views | mart_Goblin |
“If we have a bumpy start, which is likely looking at the potential lack of availability of numerous players, it’s critical that everybody holds their nerve and leave their pitchforks in the garden shed.”
A lot to agree with in this post and many others on this thread .
I do understand and agree in part .
The trouble you have is that this may well be the ‘start’ of a process , but we are a decade or more deep into quite severe defeat fatigue , especially at home.
To ask this fanbase ‘to be patient’ seems a little much . Never seen such patience really, over the last couple of years . It’s been remarkable .
Things could be worse , of course they could so fans need to bear that in mind of course , but in truth it seems like “Nourrists” covering themselves for when inevitably, the sh*t hits the fan because we haven’t done the necessary diligence on this squad as it stands |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:20 - Aug 8 with 1956 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:15 - Aug 8 by mart_Goblin |
“If we have a bumpy start, which is likely looking at the potential lack of availability of numerous players, it’s critical that everybody holds their nerve and leave their pitchforks in the garden shed.”
A lot to agree with in this post and many others on this thread .
I do understand and agree in part .
The trouble you have is that this may well be the ‘start’ of a process , but we are a decade or more deep into quite severe defeat fatigue , especially at home.
To ask this fanbase ‘to be patient’ seems a little much . Never seen such patience really, over the last couple of years . It’s been remarkable .
Things could be worse , of course they could so fans need to bear that in mind of course , but in truth it seems like “Nourrists” covering themselves for when inevitably, the sh*t hits the fan because we haven’t done the necessary diligence on this squad as it stands |
Yeh I’m seeing an increasing amount of ppl who’ve spent all summer telling me this is going to be fantastic that I’m not allowed to say anything if it’s not  |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:41 - Aug 8 with 1887 views | Rangersw12 |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 12:47 - Aug 7 by nix |
Two seasons ago to start the season we had back five of :Begovic, Kakay, Fox, Gubbins and Paal; a midfield of Dozzell and Field; attack of Smyth, Chair, Dykes and Kelman (pre-L Orient)
Surely it's less scary now, even with the injuries. It seems like an upgrade now to that squad. |
Sadly I had the same feelings that summer as I do this summer | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:09 - Aug 8 with 1815 views | Nushnool |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:16 - Aug 7 by Myke |
Bite your hand off for a ten goal striker this minute |
A ten game-a-season striker would be a good start at this point. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:12 - Aug 8 with 1806 views | kensalriser |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:20 - Aug 8 by Northernr |
Yeh I’m seeing an increasing amount of ppl who’ve spent all summer telling me this is going to be fantastic that I’m not allowed to say anything if it’s not |
A lot of people have been enthusiastically lapping up the club's kool-aid. |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:41 - Aug 8 with 1724 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:41 - Aug 8 by Rangersw12 |
Sadly I had the same feelings that summer as I do this summer |
Which is a perfectly fair position to hold and I get it but isn’t the question I asked. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 16:51 - Aug 8 with 1691 views | Rsole |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:20 - Aug 8 by Northernr |
Yeh I’m seeing an increasing amount of ppl who’ve spent all summer telling me this is going to be fantastic that I’m not allowed to say anything if it’s not |
A wiser man than I once told me that initiative was best described as successful disobedience… |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 8 with 1611 views | lassel |
Friend of the site Tyler Roberts not given a squad number at Brum…. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:23 - Aug 8 with 1595 views | Monkey_Roots |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 8 by lassel |
Friend of the site Tyler Roberts not given a squad number at Brum…. |
Thats weird...
Get him back on loan? |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:48 - Aug 8 with 1523 views | Stainrod |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 15:20 - Aug 8 by Northernr |
Yeh I’m seeing an increasing amount of ppl who’ve spent all summer telling me this is going to be fantastic that I’m not allowed to say anything if it’s not |
Am not sure there are too many Nourry-istas on the message boards (if you discard the paid ones).
I just think there is a big unanswered "so what's your grand strategy?" question for those who are confirmed sceptics and who gnaw away at the small stuff.
I'm probably a soft-Nourry-ista: I think there is an element of making it up as he goes along, as actually, despite the talk of "consistency", there are wild shifts in strategy when it comes to, for example, transfer policy. But I do give him credit for seeming to learn. I also like the fact that he has energy and ideas which Hoos patently didn't, and is clearly ruthlessly ambitious which might benefit QPR. Plus I don't like this inverted English thing which seems to beat up on people who are considered "too clever by half" or "posh": get the best person for the job, even if they are a bit arrogant or wonkish.
Yes there is probably a 30% chance that the youth team that will be representing us in the Championship this season (given the issues and injuries around senior players) gets rolled over. Then the sceptics will feel vindicated, sure.
Yet still I fear I will be unclear what the plan B was we should have been road testing instead. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:58 - Aug 8 with 1468 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:19 - Aug 8 by lassel |
Friend of the site Tyler Roberts not given a squad number at Brum…. |
#baller | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 8 with 1434 views | lassel |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 17:48 - Aug 8 by Stainrod |
Am not sure there are too many Nourry-istas on the message boards (if you discard the paid ones).
I just think there is a big unanswered "so what's your grand strategy?" question for those who are confirmed sceptics and who gnaw away at the small stuff.
I'm probably a soft-Nourry-ista: I think there is an element of making it up as he goes along, as actually, despite the talk of "consistency", there are wild shifts in strategy when it comes to, for example, transfer policy. But I do give him credit for seeming to learn. I also like the fact that he has energy and ideas which Hoos patently didn't, and is clearly ruthlessly ambitious which might benefit QPR. Plus I don't like this inverted English thing which seems to beat up on people who are considered "too clever by half" or "posh": get the best person for the job, even if they are a bit arrogant or wonkish.
Yes there is probably a 30% chance that the youth team that will be representing us in the Championship this season (given the issues and injuries around senior players) gets rolled over. Then the sceptics will feel vindicated, sure.
Yet still I fear I will be unclear what the plan B was we should have been road testing instead. |
With respect, I think you’re overstating his role and understating Hoos’ - Hoos is still in almost day to day charge of QPR, the strategy by and large is still his and the major decisions are still his. He gets to the tennis club more often now that Nourry can hold the tiller for him, and Nourry is a very welcome target for fans if/when it goes wrong so they don’t turn up outside his house again.
As to the alternative option, that one is very simple, albeit highly unrealistic and is the same strategy the club followed a decade ago after Phil Beard - who was almost as unsuitable for the role as Nourry - left. You go out and you spend a serious chunk to entice an established football CEO to come in and take on the long term project on the table here.
Now the reasons that is unrealistic are very simple. It’s a 9-12 month minimum before you could get anyone in post and probably longer and the second Hoos gets wind of it, him and Nourry are gone with the wind, which leaves Ruben to hold the tiller himself.
Now even with Hoos still around, Ruben would sell the club tomorrow if anyone came close to his asking price and he is mostly these days a hands-off owner, unless it’s very serious like Nourry trying to sack Cifuentes mid season, as his day to day business Westports is still growing at an insane rate with his net wealth growing several hundred million £ year-on-year. QPR is/was a fun toy for him and is now just drifting along with Hoos wielding almost Trumpian control because it’s simply not that important to Ruben anymore to invest his own time and energy into overhauling.
And yes, I know that a depressing post. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:14 - Aug 8 with 1394 views | EastR |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 8 by lassel |
With respect, I think you’re overstating his role and understating Hoos’ - Hoos is still in almost day to day charge of QPR, the strategy by and large is still his and the major decisions are still his. He gets to the tennis club more often now that Nourry can hold the tiller for him, and Nourry is a very welcome target for fans if/when it goes wrong so they don’t turn up outside his house again.
As to the alternative option, that one is very simple, albeit highly unrealistic and is the same strategy the club followed a decade ago after Phil Beard - who was almost as unsuitable for the role as Nourry - left. You go out and you spend a serious chunk to entice an established football CEO to come in and take on the long term project on the table here.
Now the reasons that is unrealistic are very simple. It’s a 9-12 month minimum before you could get anyone in post and probably longer and the second Hoos gets wind of it, him and Nourry are gone with the wind, which leaves Ruben to hold the tiller himself.
Now even with Hoos still around, Ruben would sell the club tomorrow if anyone came close to his asking price and he is mostly these days a hands-off owner, unless it’s very serious like Nourry trying to sack Cifuentes mid season, as his day to day business Westports is still growing at an insane rate with his net wealth growing several hundred million £ year-on-year. QPR is/was a fun toy for him and is now just drifting along with Hoos wielding almost Trumpian control because it’s simply not that important to Ruben anymore to invest his own time and energy into overhauling.
And yes, I know that a depressing post. |
The ghostly Hand of Hoos, ever present | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:23 - Aug 8 with 1362 views | Stainrod |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 8 by lassel |
With respect, I think you’re overstating his role and understating Hoos’ - Hoos is still in almost day to day charge of QPR, the strategy by and large is still his and the major decisions are still his. He gets to the tennis club more often now that Nourry can hold the tiller for him, and Nourry is a very welcome target for fans if/when it goes wrong so they don’t turn up outside his house again.
As to the alternative option, that one is very simple, albeit highly unrealistic and is the same strategy the club followed a decade ago after Phil Beard - who was almost as unsuitable for the role as Nourry - left. You go out and you spend a serious chunk to entice an established football CEO to come in and take on the long term project on the table here.
Now the reasons that is unrealistic are very simple. It’s a 9-12 month minimum before you could get anyone in post and probably longer and the second Hoos gets wind of it, him and Nourry are gone with the wind, which leaves Ruben to hold the tiller himself.
Now even with Hoos still around, Ruben would sell the club tomorrow if anyone came close to his asking price and he is mostly these days a hands-off owner, unless it’s very serious like Nourry trying to sack Cifuentes mid season, as his day to day business Westports is still growing at an insane rate with his net wealth growing several hundred million £ year-on-year. QPR is/was a fun toy for him and is now just drifting along with Hoos wielding almost Trumpian control because it’s simply not that important to Ruben anymore to invest his own time and energy into overhauling.
And yes, I know that a depressing post. |
Thanks, interesting take.
So you are advocating a change of personnel at the top. But leave aside the slightly low-level d*ck-ish things Nourry does / says, how would that fundamentally change things?
It wouldn't, for example, suddenly give us a massively bigger budget. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:48 - Aug 8 with 1297 views | aston_hoop |
Bright Osayi-Samuel starting at RB for Blues tonight v Ipswich. Interesting to see how he's looking these days. Dykes on their bench though I doubt he'll remain |  |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:08 - Aug 8 with 1227 views | dmm |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:48 - Aug 8 by aston_hoop |
Bright Osayi-Samuel starting at RB for Blues tonight v Ipswich. Interesting to see how he's looking these days. Dykes on their bench though I doubt he'll remain |
A few posters seemed to think we should bring Dykes back. Can I be the first to say no thank you very much? Others may well have said the same. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 19:09 - Aug 8 with 1219 views | nix |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 18:09 - Aug 8 by lassel |
With respect, I think you’re overstating his role and understating Hoos’ - Hoos is still in almost day to day charge of QPR, the strategy by and large is still his and the major decisions are still his. He gets to the tennis club more often now that Nourry can hold the tiller for him, and Nourry is a very welcome target for fans if/when it goes wrong so they don’t turn up outside his house again.
As to the alternative option, that one is very simple, albeit highly unrealistic and is the same strategy the club followed a decade ago after Phil Beard - who was almost as unsuitable for the role as Nourry - left. You go out and you spend a serious chunk to entice an established football CEO to come in and take on the long term project on the table here.
Now the reasons that is unrealistic are very simple. It’s a 9-12 month minimum before you could get anyone in post and probably longer and the second Hoos gets wind of it, him and Nourry are gone with the wind, which leaves Ruben to hold the tiller himself.
Now even with Hoos still around, Ruben would sell the club tomorrow if anyone came close to his asking price and he is mostly these days a hands-off owner, unless it’s very serious like Nourry trying to sack Cifuentes mid season, as his day to day business Westports is still growing at an insane rate with his net wealth growing several hundred million £ year-on-year. QPR is/was a fun toy for him and is now just drifting along with Hoos wielding almost Trumpian control because it’s simply not that important to Ruben anymore to invest his own time and energy into overhauling.
And yes, I know that a depressing post. |
This is where you start to sound crazy.
Phil Beard - who was almost as unsuitable for the role as Nourry - left..
I can see the wariness towards Nourry and agree to some extent but this is just ranting nonsense. More unsuitable than Phil Beard who oversaw the finances where we brought in Rob Green and Cesar in the same transfer window.. Who also spent over £40 million on Granero, Samba, Diakite, Park Ji-Sung, Jenus, Remy and Mbia in said window and didn't mention potential fines and ruinous spending/breaking FFP to Uncle Tony.
Hoos may not be perfect either but he reined in the stupid spending and oversaw the construction of the training ground. So slurs about the tennis court are uncalled for.
I'm sure you'd call me a Nourrista or some other stupid name when I'm far from it. I'm nervous about this season and am on the fence. But some of the 'touch of the night-style posts', extreme exaggeration and totally unbalanced assessments scream out to be questioned'. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:08 - Aug 8 with 1119 views | slmrstid |
I don't know why, how, or how long it will last but for some reason Blackburn are currently listed as "Route One Rovers" on Google's EFL Championship pages. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:10 - Aug 8 with 1108 views | Toast_R |
Don Goodman' already irritated me to fcuk. |  | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:16 - Aug 8 with 1062 views | aston_hoop |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:08 - Aug 8 by slmrstid |
I don't know why, how, or how long it will last but for some reason Blackburn are currently listed as "Route One Rovers" on Google's EFL Championship pages. |
Ha, they are as well | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:20 - Aug 8 with 1054 views | aston_hoop |
Great to see Championship refereeing in all its glory though, this game is going to boil over before half time | |
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| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:24 - Aug 8 with 1035 views | Northernr |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:20 - Aug 8 by aston_hoop |
Great to see Championship refereeing in all its glory though, this game is going to boil over before half time |
If this is the standard for free kicks it's gonna be a long fcking year. | | | |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:35 - Aug 8 with 986 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Rest of the Championship thread 25/26 on 20:24 - Aug 8 by Northernr |
If this is the standard for free kicks it's gonna be a long fcking year. |
Feel a bit for him actually thus far. The disallowed goal I think is a clear foul but because the forward is tiny it doesn’t look much. Players throwing themselves over very easily and Hinchcliffe far too busy drooling over Birmingham to call what he’s seeing on replays. Then he tries to let a foul by Bright go to let the game flow and it boils over a bit.
Saying that he’s just given a fk for the most bog standard midfield tackle you’ll find. | | | |
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