| Marti Officially Gone 19:00 - Jun 24 with 17244 views | Superhoops2808 |
Sad :-( [Post edited 24 Jun 19:13]
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| MC Officially gone on 22:04 - Jun 24 with 2041 views | wombat |
| MC Officially gone on 19:05 - Jun 24 by Philothesuperhoop |
The first link in the chain…so now a barrage of announcements to follow thank god.
I’m so sad to see him go. People wanted Warburton out, and what a mistake that was. They were the ‘good old days’. I hope we don’t look back at this crazy decision and wonder why on earth this was allowed to happen. |
Some of us already are ! |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:07 - Jun 24 with 2004 views | wombat |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:55 - Jun 24 by nadera78 |
That's a pretty mean-spirited quote from Nourry there on the website. |
You didn’t expect more did you ? now his protective shield has gone wonder how he will handle things when it does invariably go Pete tong next season . Obv won’t be his fault | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:09 - Jun 24 with 2000 views | Hooping_Mad |
Thanks Marti, subs aside you were most welcome.
Leaving statement spoke volumes, obviously couldn't work with the higher ups any longer.
Watch the cycle continue as the next manager gets some of the conssesions Marti probably asked for... |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:11 - Jun 24 with 1984 views | ted_hendrix |
We need to move on, clean sweep--new chapter and all that bolox. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:17 - Jun 24 with 1884 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:52 - Jun 24 by Northernr |
I cannot believe anybody that watched Ainsworth's QPR, Critchley's QPR, the latter days of Beale, even the latter days of Warburton, can say with a straight face we did not improve. At one stage during that we won six of 46 games. Just lucky we did it over a calendar year, not a football one.
I remember going to Middlesbrough watching Critchley play 4-4-2 with Sam Field right wing. |
Under Marti last season, after a pretty dismal pre-season, we managed 2 wins in our first 18 games before a decent slew of results through to mid-February had our heads spinning long enough for some of us to go a bit mental and start dreaming of the play-offs. After that, we managed 3 wins out of our last 13 games. That's 5 wins in 31 games, plus the olbigatory/abject F A Cup surrender, and some dire performances along the way. The number of games where we really performed and won well you could count on the fingers of one hand. Basically, if our season was a humungus doorstep sandwich, it had a few slices of decent filling between two giant slices of (very) mouldy bread.
A lot hinges on the extent to which you feel the at times ridiculous injury situation was mitigation, but for me, even if he 'saved' us from Ainsworthball (which any manager with a modicum of knowhow would arguably have done, since Gareth was totally abject), he got at least as much wrong as he did right, clearly lost the plot at times, and it looks like the club took the view that whatever happened with WBA was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Though he obviously improved on Critchley and Wild Thing, his win average is similar to Holloway's 2nd coming, and similar to or slightly lower than other managerial incumbents post-Warburton. It's certainly a far from straightforward case to claim we clearly improved under him, and the counter-argument is at least as convincing. If Marti was more pushed/sinned against in the end than sinning, for me, my feeling is he was at least some kind of architect of his own downfall when it came to the assembly and stewardship of his squad, match planning/game management, and general Championship intelligence.
As to his going, to quote The Smiths, 'I'm not happy and I'm not sad'. [Post edited 24 Jun 22:24]
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:20 - Jun 24 with 1878 views | wombat |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:55 - Jun 24 by Malintabuk |
The table hasn't lied in 10 years, and the peaks and troughs have remained... not a manager from Warburton to Marti has changed that.
Will Stephan change it... and if he does then it will be a case of Marti who |
Warbuton was prob one of the last to be allowed to bring in the players he wanted , nearly worked ,nearly bank rippled us as well , marti and the next victim dosnt have that choice , nourry and belk pick the players and the coach tried to get a competitive football team out of it , don’t forget we have a number guy in charge , never been in charge of a company let a,one a football team , cv covers two pages at most yet he blagged a job running a company of aroudn150 people .
He’s sitting there running programmes and numbers going he looks good look at his figures , how often have we watched any of the recent players actually play a game ?
Nourry and hooks got what they wanted , if it goes Pete tong this season and I’ve a feeling it might it’s firmly at there feet , nourry writes the song and sings the song these days | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:22 - Jun 24 with 1839 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:00 - Jun 24 by Markofthegrove |
I would have to disagree on that because during his time with the club, Marti continually spoke of the need to be talk positively about ourselves.
He spoke of not doing the "that would be typical QPR" stuff. He spoke of aiming higher consistently, he spoke of not being happy even after wins, about pushing harder. [Post edited 24 Jun 22:01]
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As Marti himself used to say, football is not about deserving, it's about performing. Lots of people talk a good game. However, a lot of the time we fell alarmingly short in the latter department. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:27 - Jun 24 with 1797 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:29 - Jun 24 by loftboy |
Good luck Marti, he really understood us. |
O dear! | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:30 - Jun 24 with 1805 views | NewYorkRanger |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:51 - Jun 24 by stainrods_elbow |
A fuzzily emollient enough sign-off, but just as short on specifics as one's come to expect from this ridiculously and insultingly secretive industry. Did he speak to WBA or didn't he? Were there irreconcilable differences between him and CN, and, if so, what were they? Has he 'parted by mutual agreement' after his spot of gardening, or was he pushed? Marti can't/won't say, and neither will Nourry, and the fans don't count. For me, Cifuentes is very good at polishing his own image when it comes to how 'special' we are - we saw the same thing with Warnock, with the rather noteworthy difference that Neil knew what it took to compete at this level and coached a team that excelled at it. Maybe I'm cynical, but I see it as an exercise in valedictory professionalism and brand management, mainly.
If, as the late Amy Winehouse lamented, love is a losing game, football is a mugs' game (mugs like us, I guess).
The main takeway for me from MC's post is the baking-in to the club's 21st century DNA of its downwardly managed expectations, whereby 'ensuring' we tread water in the Champ is now the way failed/mediocre managers retroactively consolidate their lack of success as some kind of success story. That's the aspirational benchmark in the culture of the club now - certainly post-Warburton. It's for the fans to decide the extent to which they buy into it. However, if that's good enough for the owners/Board/CEO/outgoing manager, it's not nearly good enough for me. |
More than likely they've signed a settlement agreement which will include all sorts of stipulations, including no bad mouthing of the club or its staff.
I long ago reached the conclusion that anything said by anyone in football at any time is at best, to be taken with a pinch of salt, and most of the time completely pointless. Sad but true. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:30 - Jun 24 with 1803 views | SW_Ranger |
There’s no doubt in my mind it was disappointing to see MC left out in the cold and the way it all happened at the end. He was a breath of fresh air after some terrible times. He lorded over some good and some terrible performances but he was without doubt a fans favourite.
With all that said, we were still distinctly average with a few memorable performances thrown in to sweeten a bitter pill. We all knew there was never going to be a way back and for me I couldn’t find myself as in-love with Marti as many others have been as the weeks went by. It was a relationship that ended badly and the memories would always be there just as they always have been.
Nice sign-off too Martí. Thanks.
The next relationship is never going to be easy after that but the hope is always there and I have slowly gotten to the point where I am looking forward to the new guy coming in. Seeing what he’s like, if he ‘gets’ us and what he does with this team. Nice to be looking forward again (and no longer backwards trying to dissect every bit and piece - oh joy!!!). I hope this one works out and we have more happy days.
As for CN’s comments, come on he would never get it right. Say too little it was an insult, say too much and he’s lying and over the top. Done. Dusted. Move onwards. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:32 - Jun 24 with 1760 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:27 - Jun 24 by Loyalitat |
Totally agree. Verbose Nourry reduced to being terse, mean-spirited and grudging towards MC and his tenure at this club, which has ended prematurely. Without him at the helm during the last two seasons, we would have been relegated.
He wasn't perfect but in spite of operating, especially last season, with a poorly assembled and unbalanced squad alongside the absence of a Head of Performance on-site, he still managed to achieve.
Dignified to the last, the sincerity in MC's parting tweet is in stark contrast to that posted by Nourry. [Post edited 24 Jun 20:57]
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What's 'terse', 'mean-spirited' or 'grudging' in anything of Nourry's statement? It's quite the opposite. He wants to thank Marti 'wholeheartedly' for his 'positive impact' and 'fantastic job . . . under difficult circumstances', and how 'he did it again in 2024.25'. Finally, he 'wishes him well' in his career.
I've addressed elsewhere how neither he nor Marti feel the fans deserve any more insight into the outcome, but to write off Nourry's words as mealy-mouthed is just wilful/perverse misreading by people blinded by their own animosity. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:35 - Jun 24 with 1747 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:55 - Jun 24 by nadera78 |
That's a pretty mean-spirited quote from Nourry there on the website. |
Yep.
CEO Christian Nourry said: “The decision to place Martí on gardening leave towards the end of the season was not an easy one to make.
“As we now move forwards, I would like to thank Martí wholeheartedly for having a positive impact during his two years here.
“He did a fantastic job to help us remain in the division when we he first came in under difficult circumstances, and he worked hard to repeat that again in 2024/25.
“We wish him well for whatever comes next.” |  |
| Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR. |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:46 - Jun 24 with 1680 views | stevec |
Can’t quite get my head around why we found it impossible to outwit at least one of the top ten sides in a competitive match throughout the whole season. That is strange in this particular division.
Probably indicative of the squad more than anything but there’s that nagging feeling that Marti didn’t quite possess the acumen to tactically outmanoeuvre better teams occasionally.
Anyway, it was fun whilst it lasted. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:49 - Jun 24 with 1652 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
There is risk of turning MC into some kind of miracle worker. Let's not forget any manager was going to be better than Ainsworth simply by putting Willock back in the team.
It's a bit like when Kieran Morgan got hyped up because he could run and tackle and press and Madsen didn't.
Low bars and all that. He was decent and more importantly came across well. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 23:03 - Jun 24 with 1576 views | joe90 |
Brutal, but inevitable end. Something about Marti’s tenure didn’t feel right to me, I can’t put my finger on it. There was clearly a disconnect between him, the club and the fans.
Looking back I can’t think of anything that went wrong, that hasn’t gone wrong for our previous managers - correct me if I’m wrong.
For the last decade various iterations of the squad have all gone on long losing streaks. We’ve consistently had injuries and our recruitment has been more miss than hit.
Anyway, time to rinse and repeat with the next manager. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 23:07 - Jun 24 with 1533 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:20 - Jun 24 by wombat |
Warbuton was prob one of the last to be allowed to bring in the players he wanted , nearly worked ,nearly bank rippled us as well , marti and the next victim dosnt have that choice , nourry and belk pick the players and the coach tried to get a competitive football team out of it , don’t forget we have a number guy in charge , never been in charge of a company let a,one a football team , cv covers two pages at most yet he blagged a job running a company of aroudn150 people .
He’s sitting there running programmes and numbers going he looks good look at his figures , how often have we watched any of the recent players actually play a game ?
Nourry and hooks got what they wanted , if it goes Pete tong this season and I’ve a feeling it might it’s firmly at there feet , nourry writes the song and sings the song these days |
Except Nourry and Belk don't pick the squad/players, as I've been over ad nauseam, with clear support from multiple articles. No manager with any credibility or pride would come into such a club anyway. It's just a pernicious and ridiculous myth promulgated by agenda-riddled fans who seem to think if they say something often enough, it becomes true. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 23:14 - Jun 24 with 1512 views | kensalriser |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:46 - Jun 24 by stevec |
Can’t quite get my head around why we found it impossible to outwit at least one of the top ten sides in a competitive match throughout the whole season. That is strange in this particular division.
Probably indicative of the squad more than anything but there’s that nagging feeling that Marti didn’t quite possess the acumen to tactically outmanoeuvre better teams occasionally.
Anyway, it was fun whilst it lasted. |
We beat two top 10 sides: Blackburn and Sunderland.
There's a reason we finished 15th. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 23:16 - Jun 24 with 1508 views | baz_qpr |
Very sad to see him go a very likeable manager. At the start of last season before a ball had been kicked I would have said the chances of him managing us this season were next to zero and probably would have depended on us being promoted. Do well he would be moving up, do badly he would be fired, did not quite expect it to end in this manner though. Wish him all the best saved us from Ainsworth once and saved us from a combo of too many foreign signings and his own stubbornness the second time around |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 23:23 - Jun 24 with 1473 views | MrSheen |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:02 - Jun 24 by JamieNaz |
To get this team from where it was under Ainsworth, to where it has been in some performances was some achievement. The Leeds result and performance being in the same season as us vs WBA under Ainsworth doesn't seem to make sense.
He gave the players and us some belief and dignity back.
He always seemed to speak publically with dignity, and he never talked the club down. One of the best managers we've had in a good long while in my opinion.
I'll follow his career with fondness, because he seemed like a very decent bloke.
Don't blame him for looking for another job - doesn't sound like he had a good relationship with Nourry, and I don't think any of the people on here believing that he's a "snake" or what have you would have done anything different in his position.
Obviously, fully behind the new manager, and he seems like a bit of a coup, but I will miss Cifuentes and will always be grateful to him. |
There’s so much randomness and volatility in football that results don’t flow from ability alone, and character and integrity may have little to do with either. His teams’ performances were at times exceptional and sometimes terrible - Cardiff - Swansea - Burnley - at the end of last season were atrocious, but he was personally extremely impressive and I’ll always think of him very fondly. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 23:34 - Jun 24 with 1402 views | nix |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:55 - Jun 24 by nadera78 |
That's a pretty mean-spirited quote from Nourry there on the website. |
Honestly I don't have a firm view on Nourry but keep finding myself irritated by some of the comments.
How is it meanspirited to say he did a fantastic job under difficult circumstances, thank him wholeheartedly for his positive impact and wish him well.
I don't think I've ever had any boss ever be so complimentary.
I loved Marti but I always thought he wouldn't stay long. It's the equal longest he's stayed at any of the seven clubs in twelve years he's managed at. He's ambitious and impatient but has obviously enjoyed his time here. I'll miss him but want to be positive about the new guy. |  | | |
| MC Officially gone on 23:51 - Jun 24 with 1317 views | QPROslo |
| MC Officially gone on 19:05 - Jun 24 by Philothesuperhoop |
The first link in the chain…so now a barrage of announcements to follow thank god.
I’m so sad to see him go. People wanted Warburton out, and what a mistake that was. They were the ‘good old days’. I hope we don’t look back at this crazy decision and wonder why on earth this was allowed to happen. |
This. Very sad to see Marti go after he kept us in the Championship twice against all the odds. Looks a terrible decision to bin him. Same terrible decisions we made with both Colin and Warburton. What is the matter with the Club? Good Managers don't come easy. When we find one we should doing our best to keep them, not throwing them out because he's not our young non-footballing CEO favourite, like the work-away Fitness boss clearly is. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 00:24 - Jun 25 with 1233 views | SydneyRs |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:22 - Jun 24 by Northernr |
A good manager.
I think of standing behind that goal at West Brom watching us lose 2-0 and never once going over the halfway line, and having Gareth tell us we were statistically improving, and I've rarely felt lower about QPR and the direction we were heading. I didn't think we'd make 20 points.
This guy came in, got it, got us, and turned it round immediately.
I've found a lot of the white washing and dismissal of his time here on social media hard to swallow.
He's one of our best managers in recent times. |
This. So much. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 01:28 - Jun 25 with 1170 views | Match82 |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:46 - Jun 24 by stevec |
Can’t quite get my head around why we found it impossible to outwit at least one of the top ten sides in a competitive match throughout the whole season. That is strange in this particular division.
Probably indicative of the squad more than anything but there’s that nagging feeling that Marti didn’t quite possess the acumen to tactically outmanoeuvre better teams occasionally.
Anyway, it was fun whilst it lasted. |
Makes quite a change for us to lose to the good teams and beat the bad ones! |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 01:39 - Jun 25 with 1164 views | loftboy |
Why “o dear” stainrod, he did understand the fans and what the club means to us.🤷♂️ |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 02:25 - Jun 25 with 1094 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 01:39 - Jun 25 by loftboy |
Why “o dear” stainrod, he did understand the fans and what the club means to us.🤷♂️ |
I think you're another who confuses the brand with some kind of deep psychic reality, and thinks because a manager tells you what you want to hear, it really means something rather than it being a case of his turning in a polished professional performance. He'll say the same thing about the next club he rolls up at, wait and see. Warnock made a career out of this. It's a bit embarrassing, really, in grown adults to take it all literally. [Post edited 25 Jun 4:29]
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