| Marti Officially Gone 19:00 - Jun 24 with 12975 views | Superhoops2808 |
Sad :-( [Post edited 24 Jun 19:13]
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| Marti Officially Gone on 20:55 - Jun 24 with 1800 views | Malintabuk |
The table hasn't lied in 10 years, and the peaks and troughs have remained... not a manager from Warburton to Marti has changed that.
Will Stephan change it... and if he does then it will be a case of Marti who |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:57 - Jun 24 with 1773 views | QPunkR |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:55 - Jun 24 by nadera78 |
That's a pretty mean-spirited quote from Nourry there on the website. |
I would expect nothing more from the man. Thin-skinned, uncharitable and petty to the last |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 20:58 - Jun 24 with 1765 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Marti Officially Gone on 19:22 - Jun 24 by Northernr |
A good manager.
I think of standing behind that goal at West Brom watching us lose 2-0 and never once going over the halfway line, and having Gareth tell us we were statistically improving, and I've rarely felt lower about QPR and the direction we were heading. I didn't think we'd make 20 points.
This guy came in, got it, got us, and turned it round immediately.
I've found a lot of the white washing and dismissal of his time here on social media hard to swallow.
He's one of our best managers in recent times. |
Agreed. A very good manager and a tough act to follow for the new man | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:00 - Jun 24 with 1727 views | bosh67 |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:44 - Jun 24 by TK1 |
We absolutely do. And Stephan is undoubtedly a very good manager. But there are good managers and there are good QPR managers. Not often the same thing. I feel we're saying goodbye needlessly early to a good QPR manager.
I hope Marti gets a great job soon, does really well there and that we never play one of his teams.
Am excited about the new manager too, it's a great appointment in theory - but something about the karma feels risky. |
I really hope the new lad hits the ground running and can connect with the fans in the way Marti did all the way through.
If he doesn't I suspect the board may come to realise what they lost in what was, as other people say, a very good QPR manager.
Good luck Marti.
Good luck Stephan. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:01 - Jun 24 with 1705 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Oh well.
Loved him when he first joined after the Ainsworth horror. 2nd season started badly, but that was definitely due to Nourrys summer signing. But.....
Something around Jan/Feb just went wrong. Disjointed team, weird subs and too many 'that was the worst half of football' posts.
On to the next one, and we get behind him. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:04 - Jun 24 with 1659 views | sdm1508 |
I wasn't sure if it had been mentioned elsewhere and didn't want to start a new thread. With our first pre season game (behind closed doors) against Stevenage on 5th July, has it actually been announced when the players return for pre season? Sorry is this is a Spackman | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:04 - Jun 24 with 1662 views | mart_Goblin |
“Whatever we think of Nourry, I get the feeling there is not the same animosity within the club for him.”
Hmmm 🤔 |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:05 - Jun 24 with 1644 views | OakR |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:23 - Jun 24 by kensalriser |
Nourry has staked his career on the success of the next manager. Regardless of a handful of loud voices and sock puppets on social media, he's burned through a tremendous amount of goodwill. |
It's going to be a weird one where the CEO is under more pressure than the manager.
I'm not sure it's entirely fair as no-one outsdie a select few individuals really know what happened, but you are right the pressue will be on.
In a strange way it might help the new manager, as I suspect like Cifuentes, even if things do go wrong, he won't be turned on which should help us and him, and the players.
I'm hoperful as I think overall our transfers have been the best in years in terms of generating revenue and making some good signings, and signing Dunne feels like a huge lift.
I think if it wasn't for the contract secrecy he'd be viewed a bit differently, but he's made his bed and now he needs toi lie in it and see how it plays out.
Marti did an amazing job in his first season, not only to turn things around but lifting morale and getting wins with team selections no-one would have picked, rotating players when no-one else would. As I said in an earlier post, would definitely have preferred him to stay, but we will have a new manager now - it would be lovely to finish top half the table! | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:07 - Jun 24 with 1613 views | KensalT |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:50 - Jun 24 by Malintabuk |
With the Stevenage game just over a week away expect Stephan to be announced sooner rather than later
Marti going, the way it was done still.leaves a bitter taste somewhat, but in a battle between him and Nourry, there was only ever going to be one winner, and it wasn't going to be Marti
Whatever we think of Nourry, I get the feeling there is not the same animosity within the club for him. Dunne and Field signing new contracts, doesn't shout of discord, the opposite in fact.
Marti really was a personable guy, but in a few years will we look back on his tenure as the purple patch we think it was. We never really improved, we still had moments of great heights, and horrendous troughs, and Marti couldn't break that.
In the last 10 years we have stagnated into a lower championship team, and Marti couldn't break that. Whether he was given enough time, is debatable, obviously the powers to be thought he couldn't
I wish the guy all the very best, as I wish the same for the new guy. And in 2 years, perhaps less, maybe more, we will wish him the best.
Managers do come and go it is us that remain. As we always will do |
"Whatever we think of Nourry, I get the feeling there is not the same animosity within the club for him. Dunne and Field signing new contracts, doesn't shout of discord, the opposite in fact."
You're assuming that a football club boils down to nothing more than keeping the players happy.
There was a recent thread on here highlighting a large number of vacancies at QPR this summer.
In my experience high turnover of staff does not suggest a happy ship - just look at Yanited!
Anyway, I'm getting off the point.
Sorry to see Marti go but it has been obvious for some time that is where things were heading.
Best of luck to the new man. He's going to need it. [Post edited 24 Jun 21:10]
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:13 - Jun 24 with 1568 views | Malintabuk |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:07 - Jun 24 by KensalT |
"Whatever we think of Nourry, I get the feeling there is not the same animosity within the club for him. Dunne and Field signing new contracts, doesn't shout of discord, the opposite in fact."
You're assuming that a football club boils down to nothing more than keeping the players happy.
There was a recent thread on here highlighting a large number of vacancies at QPR this summer.
In my experience high turnover of staff does not suggest a happy ship - just look at Yanited!
Anyway, I'm getting off the point.
Sorry to see Marti go but it has been obvious for some time that is where things were heading.
Best of luck to the new man. He's going to need it. [Post edited 24 Jun 21:10]
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We are not the only club having restructuring far bigger clubs are doing it.. one in Manchester comes to mind
We don't know what went on behind the scenes of our club, how good or how bad it was, whether a root and branch change was necessary or just a lunatic in charge.
All we can say is that valuable and respected players have resigned contracts, which to me at least seems to make the club not quite hell on earth we think it is | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:16 - Jun 24 with 1534 views | loftupper |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:05 - Jun 24 by OakR |
It's going to be a weird one where the CEO is under more pressure than the manager.
I'm not sure it's entirely fair as no-one outsdie a select few individuals really know what happened, but you are right the pressue will be on.
In a strange way it might help the new manager, as I suspect like Cifuentes, even if things do go wrong, he won't be turned on which should help us and him, and the players.
I'm hoperful as I think overall our transfers have been the best in years in terms of generating revenue and making some good signings, and signing Dunne feels like a huge lift.
I think if it wasn't for the contract secrecy he'd be viewed a bit differently, but he's made his bed and now he needs toi lie in it and see how it plays out.
Marti did an amazing job in his first season, not only to turn things around but lifting morale and getting wins with team selections no-one would have picked, rotating players when no-one else would. As I said in an earlier post, would definitely have preferred him to stay, but we will have a new manager now - it would be lovely to finish top half the table! |
Under pressure from who? How do you know this?
Loved watching the football under Cifuente’s, god did we need him after the ridiculous appointment of Ainsworth. For me, that was far worse than anything that has happened under Nourry’s watch. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:20 - Jun 24 with 1506 views | Markofthegrove |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:04 - Jun 24 by mart_Goblin |
“Whatever we think of Nourry, I get the feeling there is not the same animosity within the club for him.”
Hmmm 🤔 |
One agent of a player said "It doesn't matter what I think of him, he's given my player two new contracts"
As for the wider staff around the club, there is discourse. But again, only one winner. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:21 - Jun 24 with 1485 views | OakR |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:16 - Jun 24 by loftupper |
Under pressure from who? How do you know this?
Loved watching the football under Cifuente’s, god did we need him after the ridiculous appointment of Ainsworth. For me, that was far worse than anything that has happened under Nourry’s watch. |
From the fans. I don't know of course, it's my assumption. You and others may think differently of course.
Agree re Ainsworth. A real panic, crowd pleaser appointment with a sad ending for a player who brought many great moments to us. A real shame. | |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:22 - Jun 24 with 1475 views | paulparker |
The best thing to happen to this club in years and we let him go for nothing
Clubs is and will always be a shambles under these owners
Can’t wait for wilder to take over in October to help save us from relegation |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:27 - Jun 24 with 1431 views | ted_hendrix |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:13 - Jun 24 by Malintabuk |
We are not the only club having restructuring far bigger clubs are doing it.. one in Manchester comes to mind
We don't know what went on behind the scenes of our club, how good or how bad it was, whether a root and branch change was necessary or just a lunatic in charge.
All we can say is that valuable and respected players have resigned contracts, which to me at least seems to make the club not quite hell on earth we think it is |
Well I'm just beginning to look forward to the new season with a new Manager In charge.
I never quite got to grips with Marti Cifuentes.
We are an oddball club, all I ask though Is please don't start the new season like we did last season, seeing us bottom of the league early on was a bitter pill to swallow.
Not asking for much but Loftus Road should be a fortress for visiting teams.
Get on with It. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:27 - Jun 24 with 1434 views | BostonR |
Marti has been class in very difficult circumstances.
Even his farewell message is classy. It’s beyond belief that one of the best managers we’ve had for sometime has essentially been thrown under the bus for non-footballing reasons.
Nourry made that clear in his message. Whilst I want the new manager to be very successful I can’t help feeling Nourry is going to regret what seems a very spiteful and personal agenda against Marti.
I hope Marti goes on and continues to be successful. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:29 - Jun 24 with 1411 views | loftus77 |
Its a sad day and more than a bit of a bitter one.
I felt parting company with Warbs in 2022 felt like a mistake at the time and I think this was proved right. But this feels on a different level.
Was Marti the best Rangers head coach since Venables? Maybe not (Oliie, Warnock, Gerry) but the man from Barcelona made a very good case. The 2023-24 resurrection was a Miracle (as already covered) and 2024-25 saw the best Winter Form in many a year with safety achieved with games to spare. And we've jettisoned him. Wow.
OK then, so over to you Christian now, or Lee, or whoever. Fortune favours the brave - right? You could argue this is Brave- Bold - Reckless to the point of madness. The very best of luck to Julien Stephan (as said, he is, and will be, blameless - maybe that's the Master Plan) and maybe the dressing room will warm to him more than his excellent (imho) predecessor. But what do I know?
This has to work. This HAS to work. Quickly. Clearly. No contingency.
Senor Cifuentes - thank you very much. For Leicester. For Leeds. For Birmingham. For Oxford. For everything. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:40 - Jun 24 with 1305 views | Spaceman_P |
I'm gutted. I genuinely feel the club treated him incredibly bad, it seems like it was handled terribly.
Now we've got to watch a whole team and management team gel again.
Lets just hope the Loftus Road faithful Chair, Dunne etc can essentially self manage during this transition. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:40 - Jun 24 with 1305 views | fraserc |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:04 - Jun 24 by sdm1508 |
I wasn't sure if it had been mentioned elsewhere and didn't want to start a new thread. With our first pre season game (behind closed doors) against Stevenage on 5th July, has it actually been announced when the players return for pre season? Sorry is this is a Spackman |
I remeber reading/hearing that players in the Chamionship are due to be back on Thursday (26th) for their usual physical check-ups, so I assume they are back in training proper on Monday. | | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:50 - Jun 24 with 1229 views | dmm |
Now Cifuentes' departure has been announced I'd expect Stephan's arrival to be heralded tomorrow. That said, I'd also expect he's been working behind the scenes for a while. He'll need to hit the training ground running. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:51 - Jun 24 with 1204 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Marti Officially Gone on 20:46 - Jun 24 by OldPedro |
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A fuzzily emollient enough sign-off, but just as short on specifics as one's come to expect from this ridiculously and insultingly secretive industry. Did he speak to WBA or didn't he? Were there irreconcilable differences between him and CN, and, if so, what were they? Has he 'parted by mutual agreement' after his spot of gardening, or was he pushed? Marti can't/won't say, and neither will Nourry, and the fans don't count. For me, Cifuentes is very good at polishing his own image when it comes to how 'special' we are - we saw the same thing with Warnock, with the rather noteworthy difference that Neil knew what it took to compete at this level and coached a team that excelled at it. Maybe I'm cynical, but I see it as an exercise in valedictory professionalism and brand management, mainly.
If, as the late Amy Winehouse lamented, love is a losing game, football is a mugs' game (mugs like us, I guess).
The main takeway for me from MC's post is the baking-in to the club's 21st century DNA of its downwardly managed expectations, whereby 'ensuring' we tread water in the Champ is now the way failed/mediocre managers retroactively consolidate their lack of success as some kind of success story. That's the aspirational benchmark in the culture of the club now - certainly post-Warburton. It's for the fans to decide the extent to which they buy into it. However, if that's good enough for the owners/Board/CEO/outgoing manager, it's not nearly good enough for me. |  |
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| Marti Officially Gone on 21:52 - Jun 24 with 1214 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:22 - Jun 24 by paulparker |
The best thing to happen to this club in years and we let him go for nothing
Clubs is and will always be a shambles under these owners
Can’t wait for wilder to take over in October to help save us from relegation |
It’ll be worse than nothing, I’d imagine we paid him to go. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:59 - Jun 24 with 1152 views | Ghost_on_the_Westway |
Made a note in my diary on the way here. Simply says, “bugger”.
Thanks Marti. For a while, you were more or less the only good thing about our nutty club. Such a shame.
Bugger, again. |  | | |
| Marti Officially Gone on 22:00 - Jun 24 with 1144 views | Markofthegrove |
| Marti Officially Gone on 21:51 - Jun 24 by stainrods_elbow |
A fuzzily emollient enough sign-off, but just as short on specifics as one's come to expect from this ridiculously and insultingly secretive industry. Did he speak to WBA or didn't he? Were there irreconcilable differences between him and CN, and, if so, what were they? Has he 'parted by mutual agreement' after his spot of gardening, or was he pushed? Marti can't/won't say, and neither will Nourry, and the fans don't count. For me, Cifuentes is very good at polishing his own image when it comes to how 'special' we are - we saw the same thing with Warnock, with the rather noteworthy difference that Neil knew what it took to compete at this level and coached a team that excelled at it. Maybe I'm cynical, but I see it as an exercise in valedictory professionalism and brand management, mainly.
If, as the late Amy Winehouse lamented, love is a losing game, football is a mugs' game (mugs like us, I guess).
The main takeway for me from MC's post is the baking-in to the club's 21st century DNA of its downwardly managed expectations, whereby 'ensuring' we tread water in the Champ is now the way failed/mediocre managers retroactively consolidate their lack of success as some kind of success story. That's the aspirational benchmark in the culture of the club now - certainly post-Warburton. It's for the fans to decide the extent to which they buy into it. However, if that's good enough for the owners/Board/CEO/outgoing manager, it's not nearly good enough for me. |
I would have to disagree on that because during his time with the club, Marti continually spoke of the need to be talk positively about ourselves.
He spoke of not doing the "that would be typical QPR" stuff. He spoke of aiming higher consistently, he spoke of not being happy even after wins, about pushing harder. [Post edited 24 Jun 22:01]
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| Marti Officially Gone on 22:02 - Jun 24 with 1122 views | JamieNaz |
To get this team from where it was under Ainsworth, to where it has been in some performances was some achievement. The Leeds result and performance being in the same season as us vs WBA under Ainsworth doesn't seem to make sense.
He gave the players and us some belief and dignity back.
He always seemed to speak publically with dignity, and he never talked the club down. One of the best managers we've had in a good long while in my opinion.
I'll follow his career with fondness, because he seemed like a very decent bloke.
Don't blame him for looking for another job - doesn't sound like he had a good relationship with Nourry, and I don't think any of the people on here believing that he's a "snake" or what have you would have done anything different in his position.
Obviously, fully behind the new manager, and he seems like a bit of a coup, but I will miss Cifuentes and will always be grateful to him. | | | |
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