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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred 10:55 - Aug 15 with 35583 viewsMyke

Can't see one, apologies if there is. I'm going for 6-6
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:05 - Aug 16 with 2338 viewsWatford_Ranger

We were up against it with that bizarre team selection from the off and it got worse from there.

We have full-backs. Young players yes but it’s mental to move your star CB in the first game to left-back with no left foot and pray Morgan has an easy day as he did last week.

It’s ten men when Madsen plays away (10.5 when he plays at home). I sincerely hope he isn’t being imposed on the manager but if he’s not it worries me he thinks he can get a tune from him. As Smyth’s #1 fan I can’t see the logic in having him on the left unless he’s hoping to protect the full-back in which case just play an actual full-back.

Celar. Celar indeed.

On the plus side, Chair ran his nuts off and was our best chance of an undeserved equaliser until he was moved to accommodate the statue. Kone was a handful and Burrell at least competed with no service.

Concerning times indeed if he think he’s got a chance playing any team in this league with that team selection even taking into account the players not available.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:11 - Aug 16 with 2259 viewsBeckenhamhoop

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:12 - Aug 16 by stevec

Someone needs to be, it’s been a recurring theme of being unfit and unable to stand up to the physicality of this league.

I’m all ears for smileys after match musings, we’re going to chew this one up and spit him out fast if he doesn’t buck up his ideas.


Just imagine how you’d chew him up and spit him out if he only wins one out of our first 16 games.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:15 - Aug 16 with 2213 viewsMatch82

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:22 - Aug 16 by BushRanger82

I don't understand this football club anymore.
We sign a striker on Wednesday who scored 21 goals for his club last season, and play him for only the last 20 minutes of today's game.
Richard Kone has had a full pre-season, and played one full game for Wycombe this season. Make it make sense, someone.

As for this latest bizarre team selection from Stephan, following hot on the heels of Tuesday's disgraceful capitulation to a league one side, yet to win a game in league one, I'm lost for words. How many players were playing on the wrong side of the field, and how many out of position altogether?
Make it make sense, please.
I bloody hate modern football with a passion.


In this instance I would assume it's because Burrell has spent the last couple of weeks in and around the team, in training sessions, got a feel for his team mates what their preferences are how they play etc. Kone hasn't, but by this time next week will have
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:15 - Aug 16 with 2204 viewsrbee

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:57 - Aug 16 by Dono77

Got skinned numerous times and was at fault for second goal. No man's land for first goal. Was leaden footed non stop and Watford targeted him all day. He was awful. Not sure what Morrison you were watching.


Would blame both Morrison and Walsh for the second.

Really our keepers need to be a bit more Schmeichel who rarely didn't claim a ball around his 6 yard box even if that meant knocking his own defenders flying.

There really is a lack of aggression running through the whole team.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:15 - Aug 16 with 2203 viewsNorthantsHoop

Looked good in 2nd half, much more positive, but as we know can't gift two goals, otherwise always chasing the game. Kone looks a bit of unit up front.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:18 - Aug 16 with 2134 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:04 - Aug 16 by CroydonCaptJack

Genuinely pathetic childish post.


How come? I'd have thought that was obvious from what we've seen so far. Just saying it's likely he'll stay however this season goes.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:26 - Aug 16 with 2036 viewsWatford_Ranger

Also think it’s fair to say the attitude to Madsen here is considerably more mixed than at matches and particularly away. A lot of people, many usually placid individuals, are vocal about being sick of seeing him stroll about.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:37 - Aug 16 with 1900 viewsPetros

I have tried really hard to see the point of Madsen and was rooting for him as he started afresh this season. Today I hit the wall. There is a footballer there, but not one who can play in a Championship midfield.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:37 - Aug 16 with 1897 viewsBurnleyhoop

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:57 - Aug 16 by Dono77

Got skinned numerous times and was at fault for second goal. No man's land for first goal. Was leaden footed non stop and Watford targeted him all day. He was awful. Not sure what Morrison you were watching.


The same one as every one else. He was trying to cover two full backs, that aren’t full backs and had his work cut out. Mbengue stood right off his man for the first one and Morrison lost his man for the second one. He made some mistakes, but anyone dealing with that front line on their own would. Thought Morgan had a decent game, but he was done by 60 minutes and being totally skinned by Baah. It was Morrison trying to cover his arse for the last 20.

No medals for a footballing masterclass, but for digging in under difficult circumstances, when someone like Madsen totters around hiding, he gets my respect.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:37 - Aug 16 with 1890 viewscharmr

Imagine what the team would be like today without the new signings.

League 1 bound
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:43 - Aug 16 with 1810 viewsBushRanger82

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:42 - Aug 16 by Loft1979

Jan has not pressed his case. I hope CN can find him a Club in the next 2 weeks… Schalke ?


The Jerrys really will think Rangers are taking the piss.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:50 - Aug 16 with 1712 viewsrbee

Nicolas has not got the personality, the temperament for playing Championship football.

It's time for the club to admit it's mistake and move the player on which is in the best interest of all parties.

An unfortunate, regretful situation that needs resolving now.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:52 - Aug 16 with 1696 viewsPadulas_Shampoo

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:31 - Aug 16 by Beejnewark

Thought Bennie wide would have been a better option than Celar, tbh


Benny Hill would be a better option than Celar.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:52 - Aug 16 with 1695 viewsthemodfather

well imo watford is a nightmare ground for us , i have seen a few hammerings there. we made mistakes, got punished , rallied and could we have stole a draw? hate watford.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:54 - Aug 16 with 1676 viewsQPunkR

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:08 - Aug 16 by cyprusmel

If we could actually pass the ball to each other, we could be very dangerous.


Conjecture, your honour!

Shit but local

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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:58 - Aug 16 with 1625 viewsdmm

At risk of stating the obvious, which has been repeated many times, we desperately need to sign a CM to replace Madsen before the window closes.

If it's Hayden so be it. He'd be ten times the player Madsen is. But, I'm still hoping for someone younger and more dynamic.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:00 - Aug 16 with 1592 viewsrbee

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:58 - Aug 16 by dmm

At risk of stating the obvious, which has been repeated many times, we desperately need to sign a CM to replace Madsen before the window closes.

If it's Hayden so be it. He'd be ten times the player Madsen is. But, I'm still hoping for someone younger and more dynamic.


Hayden AND a younger, dynamic player for me.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:02 - Aug 16 with 1558 viewsQPunkR

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:52 - Aug 16 by Padulas_Shampoo

Benny Hill would be a better option than Celar.


Even current Benny Hill

Shit but local

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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:05 - Aug 16 with 1512 viewsDiscodroids

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:54 - Aug 16 by QPunkR

Conjecture, your honour!


if it please the court, Morrisons first half attempt at a 10 yard pass that ended up in the kuiper belt was a most unfortunate affair.

King Tito's Glove.

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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:06 - Aug 16 with 1491 viewsstevec

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 18:03 - Aug 16 by CroydonCaptJack

Well you already seem to be deriding him with that name.


True, and understand if it seems unfair when we’ve only had three relatively easy competitive games and six pre season games, but I’m perplexed about the way he’s handled his first two months.

Marti had a strong team behind him and something about his persona that bought him time. This fella appears to lack both and, to boot, has a senior pro in Bould behind the scenes who’s not part of his entourage and could quickly gain the ear of the pros he’s coaching. Cook is another step nearer closing his playing career and I don’t suppose he needed an extra years players wages to hang about the place.

The dynamics are not good for JS, he needs to get a grip and fast.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:19 - Aug 16 with 1345 viewsEmpireStateRanger

I give our players a lot of leeway, as I think it takes a bit to adjust to the Championship. But I don’t think it’s ever happening for Madsen. He may look great in MLS or or a Scandinavian league where he can ping the ball around on a one-touch because the midfield is wide up, but in a league where controlling the midfield is vital, he doesn’t get stuck in. No nasty streak. A shame, as he seemed like a real coup when we signed

Otherwise, I do agree that the team selection was a bit weird (No Adamson after playing him all preseason? Mbengue at LB?) but it wasn’t going to be THAT easy to hit the ground running, did you think? Think there are some overreactions.

We really need Dunne back. Part of Morrison’s struggles (he got skinned repeatedly 1-1) was that his RB was nowhere to be found on numerous occasions. Fair play to Morgan for the hit but he needs to be in midfield, probably where Madsen is.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:23 - Aug 16 with 1299 viewsWatford_Ranger

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 17:49 - Aug 16 by mart_Goblin

Talking off kick off…. What the hell is that kick into touch about l?
It’s not even hidden with any players half heartedly going for it .
Even my Mrs said “we aren’t playing rugby, what’s that ?”

For me it gave a glimpse into the mindset for that first half.
And as I said before , I felt slightly embarrassed.
We’re better than that ain’t we ?


PSG do it (and it works of course). The logic is you force them deep into their own half, as close to the corner flag as possible, press and win the ball from there. We smashed it out about 15 yards into their half, got given another go for some reason then did the same thing. Might as well have a shot and have them start from a goal kick as most of the Championship now is just hoping the opposition make a mistake playing out from a goal kick.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:34 - Aug 16 with 1194 viewsdutch

Some of you lot are truly ridiculous. i've just got back to find snowflakes talking about getting rid of the manager after two league games. We were undeniably poor first half , but it was nothing like the Ainsworth debacle. Second half we could well have nicked it, Varane made us much stronger, having a full back on the pitch helped, the new guy looked strong, we looked half decent for half an hour and played some good stuff. We go again, we'll find out our best eleven and our best formation and we'll be alright. So stop with the nervous breakdowns already.
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 20:02 - Aug 16 with 1056 viewsSuperhoops2808

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:34 - Aug 16 by dutch

Some of you lot are truly ridiculous. i've just got back to find snowflakes talking about getting rid of the manager after two league games. We were undeniably poor first half , but it was nothing like the Ainsworth debacle. Second half we could well have nicked it, Varane made us much stronger, having a full back on the pitch helped, the new guy looked strong, we looked half decent for half an hour and played some good stuff. We go again, we'll find out our best eleven and our best formation and we'll be alright. So stop with the nervous breakdowns already.
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You cant call them that

I got severely reprimanded in the week for that
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Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 21:01 - Aug 16 with 837 viewsDaBurgh

Wat's the chances of a high scoring draw - match fred on 19:23 - Aug 16 by Watford_Ranger

PSG do it (and it works of course). The logic is you force them deep into their own half, as close to the corner flag as possible, press and win the ball from there. We smashed it out about 15 yards into their half, got given another go for some reason then did the same thing. Might as well have a shot and have them start from a goal kick as most of the Championship now is just hoping the opposition make a mistake playing out from a goal kick.
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Well the couple of times the ball was kicked out by the corner post. The 'ref' allowed the throw to be taken at least 20 yards further up. So much for that cunning plan.

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