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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread 13:39 - Apr 9 with 66877 viewsSuperhoops2808

With the football season coming to a close in a months time, some here will turn their attention to the smell of freshly mown grass and long days sat in the hot sunny weather watching the great game of cricket.

As a member of Kent Cricket Club, I got to enjoy my first match of the season against Somerset at Canterbury over the last few days. Unfortunately, as is always the way starting the season this early, the first day was lost to rain. In fact nearly all the games were affected by rain, some without a ball even being bowled.

But I did manage to get to see 2 centurions at Canterbury yesterday and a very enjoyable day of cricket (even if I did get sun burned head - Yes I know should have taken a cap).

Did anyone else get to see cricket over the last few days? I know we have several Middlesex supporters who no doubt enjoyed the 'runfest' at Lords (over 1300 runs I believe)
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:46 - Jul 4 with 697 viewsnumptydumpty

Pope and Crawley both had averages in the mid 30s for their batting is not quite good enough.

Crawley survives because Ducketts form makes Crawley look better. Pope.chokes sometimes when he is most needed.

And as a number six, Stokes has one too.many failings for me.

Dom Sibley has been in impressive.form.in all forms.of the game. Jacob Bethell.is also waiting in the wings.

Both Pope and Crawley will bat this entire series but if their form remains inconsistent, can see others getting future opportunities in near future.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 16:14 - Jul 4 with 637 viewsTheChef

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:46 - Jul 4 by numptydumpty

Pope and Crawley both had averages in the mid 30s for their batting is not quite good enough.

Crawley survives because Ducketts form makes Crawley look better. Pope.chokes sometimes when he is most needed.

And as a number six, Stokes has one too.many failings for me.

Dom Sibley has been in impressive.form.in all forms.of the game. Jacob Bethell.is also waiting in the wings.

Both Pope and Crawley will bat this entire series but if their form remains inconsistent, can see others getting future opportunities in near future.
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To be fair to Stokes today it was an excellent ball that got him; and it was his first ever golden duck in Tests.

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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 4 with 521 viewsLoyalitat

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:46 - Jul 4 by numptydumpty

Pope and Crawley both had averages in the mid 30s for their batting is not quite good enough.

Crawley survives because Ducketts form makes Crawley look better. Pope.chokes sometimes when he is most needed.

And as a number six, Stokes has one too.many failings for me.

Dom Sibley has been in impressive.form.in all forms.of the game. Jacob Bethell.is also waiting in the wings.

Both Pope and Crawley will bat this entire series but if their form remains inconsistent, can see others getting future opportunities in near future.
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Did you not state in one of your previous posts that you weren't suggesting Crawley wasn't good enough to remain in the England test team. Forgive me for perhaps misrepresenting you, but your latest post would appear to contradict your previous assertion. Most notably: "Duckett's form makes Crawley look better"!

For reference: Crawley's test average 31.42 (56 test matches) is higher than the person you are proposing as his replacement, Sibley: 28.9 (22 test matches) and that's after factoring the stark change in the manner in which England now aim to bat in test cricket, which wasn't the case when Sibley opened for England.

As much as I like Sibley, he will never be considered as Crawley's replacement whilst the current selectors remain in place. Same goes for Hameed, who is also scoring runs for fun in the 4-day county game.

The unique nature of batting means that you are out more frequently than you accumulate high scores. There are notable exceptions of course, but even the very best batsmen in world cricket get out for low/lowish scores too, but on fewer occasions. That's amplified even more when opening in test cricket which is the toughest gig out there.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 22:05 - Jul 4 with 451 viewsBlackCrowe

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 4 by Loyalitat

Did you not state in one of your previous posts that you weren't suggesting Crawley wasn't good enough to remain in the England test team. Forgive me for perhaps misrepresenting you, but your latest post would appear to contradict your previous assertion. Most notably: "Duckett's form makes Crawley look better"!

For reference: Crawley's test average 31.42 (56 test matches) is higher than the person you are proposing as his replacement, Sibley: 28.9 (22 test matches) and that's after factoring the stark change in the manner in which England now aim to bat in test cricket, which wasn't the case when Sibley opened for England.

As much as I like Sibley, he will never be considered as Crawley's replacement whilst the current selectors remain in place. Same goes for Hameed, who is also scoring runs for fun in the 4-day county game.

The unique nature of batting means that you are out more frequently than you accumulate high scores. There are notable exceptions of course, but even the very best batsmen in world cricket get out for low/lowish scores too, but on fewer occasions. That's amplified even more when opening in test cricket which is the toughest gig out there.
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Crawley is undroppable for this series at the very least. It would be madness.

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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:39 - Jul 5 with 330 viewsSuperhoops2808

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 4 by Loyalitat

Did you not state in one of your previous posts that you weren't suggesting Crawley wasn't good enough to remain in the England test team. Forgive me for perhaps misrepresenting you, but your latest post would appear to contradict your previous assertion. Most notably: "Duckett's form makes Crawley look better"!

For reference: Crawley's test average 31.42 (56 test matches) is higher than the person you are proposing as his replacement, Sibley: 28.9 (22 test matches) and that's after factoring the stark change in the manner in which England now aim to bat in test cricket, which wasn't the case when Sibley opened for England.

As much as I like Sibley, he will never be considered as Crawley's replacement whilst the current selectors remain in place. Same goes for Hameed, who is also scoring runs for fun in the 4-day county game.

The unique nature of batting means that you are out more frequently than you accumulate high scores. There are notable exceptions of course, but even the very best batsmen in world cricket get out for low/lowish scores too, but on fewer occasions. That's amplified even more when opening in test cricket which is the toughest gig out there.
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Exactly that. I was corrected when I pulled up on the Crawley comment and its like a copy and paste

We have a very established side (including an opening partnership) and it would be suicide to go to Australia with changes. Sibley as an opener is so weary to watch and such a slow scorer.

If things go wrong in Australia then revisit selection but this has been the problem in the past where we have a poor performance and all of a sudden there are knee jerk reactions. I think McCullem and Key have kept a settled side whilst blooding youngsters along the way.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 17:34 - Jul 5 with 266 viewsnumptydumpty

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:39 - Jul 5 by Superhoops2808

Exactly that. I was corrected when I pulled up on the Crawley comment and its like a copy and paste

We have a very established side (including an opening partnership) and it would be suicide to go to Australia with changes. Sibley as an opener is so weary to watch and such a slow scorer.

If things go wrong in Australia then revisit selection but this has been the problem in the past where we have a poor performance and all of a sudden there are knee jerk reactions. I think McCullem and Key have kept a settled side whilst blooding youngsters along the way.


You not watched Sibley last couple of seasons then.

He hasbeen stand out performer in both one dayers including t20 games and County games. Different player to the player we had for England several seasons ago.

You pick a team on form amd Sibley has been excellent in last year for Surrey and scoring very rapidly in t20s also.

As said Crawley is so hit and miss and gets a free ride sometimes on the back of how brilliant Duckett can be.

As we speak, Crawley showing his fragility once more and out for a duck when we need him to bed in.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 17:36 - Jul 5 with 257 viewsnumptydumpty

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 22:05 - Jul 4 by BlackCrowe

Crawley is undroppable for this series at the very least. It would be madness.


Why ???

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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:37 - Jul 5 with 207 viewsSuperhoops2808

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 17:34 - Jul 5 by numptydumpty

You not watched Sibley last couple of seasons then.

He hasbeen stand out performer in both one dayers including t20 games and County games. Different player to the player we had for England several seasons ago.

You pick a team on form amd Sibley has been excellent in last year for Surrey and scoring very rapidly in t20s also.

As said Crawley is so hit and miss and gets a free ride sometimes on the back of how brilliant Duckett can be.

As we speak, Crawley showing his fragility once more and out for a duck when we need him to bed in.
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Been sitting here waiting to type that haven't you

Sibley (And Burns) all had chances and failed to establish themselves - I have seen Sibley this year in T20's - Twice against us, and he was pony - in fact at the oval he scored 6 off 9 balls - Thats rapid indeed

And I have just checked his stats for the last 2 red ball matches and yes he scored runs but at an average of 50 strike rate at best.

Against Worcestershire 184 balls to score 73 and and 27 balls to score just 8 at a strike rate of 29.62 - bottom of the league Worcestershire at that.

Anyway, you have another tommy over the fact that Crawley has gone cheaply again. Never mind that in the first innings 6 players failed to trouble the scorers all together - Maybe drop all them too

And as we speak - We also needed Pope and Duckett to bed in, they too failed.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 19:13 - Jul 5 with 155 viewsLoyalitat

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:37 - Jul 5 by Superhoops2808

Been sitting here waiting to type that haven't you

Sibley (And Burns) all had chances and failed to establish themselves - I have seen Sibley this year in T20's - Twice against us, and he was pony - in fact at the oval he scored 6 off 9 balls - Thats rapid indeed

And I have just checked his stats for the last 2 red ball matches and yes he scored runs but at an average of 50 strike rate at best.

Against Worcestershire 184 balls to score 73 and and 27 balls to score just 8 at a strike rate of 29.62 - bottom of the league Worcestershire at that.

Anyway, you have another tommy over the fact that Crawley has gone cheaply again. Never mind that in the first innings 6 players failed to trouble the scorers all together - Maybe drop all them too

And as we speak - We also needed Pope and Duckett to bed in, they too failed.


I tell thee, that Joe Root is absolute pony. He's got to be dropped too. 22 in the first innings and a mere 4 in the second! Drop him!

By my reckoning: that means the following will need to be discarded as they have all failed to "bed in" in this particular match: Crawley, Pope, Duckett and Root. Whilst we're at it, may as well drop Stokes too.
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 19:20 - Jul 5 with 138 viewsjeffranger50

Our bowling attack needs changing as very poor at present & conceding over 1000 runs in 2innings is not acceptable
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Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 19:21 - Jul 5 with 138 viewsSuperhoops2808

Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 19:13 - Jul 5 by Loyalitat

I tell thee, that Joe Root is absolute pony. He's got to be dropped too. 22 in the first innings and a mere 4 in the second! Drop him!

By my reckoning: that means the following will need to be discarded as they have all failed to "bed in" in this particular match: Crawley, Pope, Duckett and Root. Whilst we're at it, may as well drop Stokes too.
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And may as well sack McCullum to boot. Lets go to Oz with a new set up
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