| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread 13:39 - Apr 9 with 72948 views | Superhoops2808 |
With the football season coming to a close in a months time, some here will turn their attention to the smell of freshly mown grass and long days sat in the hot sunny weather watching the great game of cricket.
As a member of Kent Cricket Club, I got to enjoy my first match of the season against Somerset at Canterbury over the last few days. Unfortunately, as is always the way starting the season this early, the first day was lost to rain. In fact nearly all the games were affected by rain, some without a ball even being bowled.
But I did manage to get to see 2 centurions at Canterbury yesterday and a very enjoyable day of cricket (even if I did get sun burned head - Yes I know should have taken a cap).
Did anyone else get to see cricket over the last few days? I know we have several Middlesex supporters who no doubt enjoyed the 'runfest' at Lords (over 1300 runs I believe) [Post edited 4 Apr 13:14]
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 16:43 - Jul 7 with 1675 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 15:42 - Jul 7 by numptydumpty |
Crawley has had so many chances
56 tests and if you say his average is 31 - that is still very poor.
Appreciate he looks like a class batsman and he is, but the problem is he never scores consistently enough or in any kind of decent numbers. Others deserve a chance again or for the first time. I would advocate Pope needs a rest too. Again, he is a class batsman but again his numbers are average at best.
Crawley and Pope - never said they weren't class batsmen, but inconsistent always - a la Ramprakesh and Hick - who themselves were failures at international levels. And no, I wasn't waiting to post about a Crawley duck, I want England to win and if Crawley can up his game, no one would be happier than me, but a poor test record over 56 tests, which is shedloads of time to prove your worth.
I cannot see him being anything other than a test player with a 30 run average !!! Why would he improve in his career after reaching 60 test matches.
But yes our bowling attack has more serious issues to resolve. Our bowling attack was always going to struggle to the huge gap we have, since Broad and Anderson went to the sunset bowling heaven in the sky.
We seem to have several decent options but many are constantly crocked and we seriously need to improve in this area, if we are to ever compete again at the very highest level in test cricket. |
So let me get this straight
Sibley can improve his strike rate and 'score rapidly' as he has allegedly done this season
But
Crawley, at a younger age cannot improve and increase his test average.
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 16:46 - Jul 7 with 1647 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 13:19 - Jul 7 by TheChef |
Cheers. Although I was in the Hollies stand (a mate booked the tickets) and I've realised I'm too old and grumpy for it these days  Fine though if you're starting on the beers at 10am.
Plus we had a couple of tw8tish Fulham fans sat behind us (not the Rupert kind) who got more annoying as they got more p1ssed. |
Think I am pretty much the same, my mate was drinking straight from a bottle of Moet on the train at 7am and in the video there were just 3 people sat down with everyone else standing up in the Hollies and they didn't look happy
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:11 - Jul 7 with 1595 views | numptydumpty |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 16:43 - Jul 7 by Superhoops2808 |
So let me get this straight
Sibley can improve his strike rate and 'score rapidly' as he has allegedly done this season
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Crawley, at a younger age cannot improve and increase his test average.
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Sibley has
He got 70 off 46 in t20 and has done well opening the batting in all forms of the game.
Crawley can improve but he needs a refresh from tests as he is not in form at all.
He could improve in time, however he has been given the most opportunities and no signs currently still.
There are others that could come in. I just said Sibley myself as I seen his improvements as I am a Surrey fan, but advocate someone else to be given a chances. Does not have to be Sibley.
Time out of tbe firing line and no reason Crawley could not improve. But currently he is a liability and my view is , it will remain the same if we keep him in, at this current time.
But not saying that as a biased Surrey fan. Advocating Pope to be rested currently as well.
Its clear you are Crawleys number one fan but for me, he needs resting.
You dont agree. Let's see how things pan out.
Sibley averages 41 in all his first class careerr. Crawley is down at 30 throughout his career. And Sibley averages more in t20 and one dayers too, above Crawleys career also.
Sibley last international was four years ago but by way of comparison he got 22 games, Crawley has overall performed poorly for 56 tests.
As said, there are others who could replace Crawley. But you seem to have a massive blind spot around Mr Crawley....
He should be toast for me, but I doubt he will be dropped. Stokes likes him as a player.
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:19 - Jul 7 with 1588 views | JamesB1979 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:04 - Jul 7 by GaryBannister86 |
Totally agree, whatever anyone thinks of Crawley and Pope it would be absurd to not start them in Australia after the last 3 years. I don't think Bashir has shown that he will be of much use out there, although he has done OK. Pack the batting, have Stokes at 8 if need be, and pray that the quicks are fit and firing.
Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Bethell
Smith
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Atkinson
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You need a quick bowler who can give you 20-30 overs in an innings and put in hard yards with 8 over spells. I don’t think any of those 3 can do that. Archer got ruined by Root when he bowled him 40+ overs in 1 innings. For me, have to play a Carse or even Woakes. They can also bat a bit. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 19:24 - Jul 7 with 1533 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:11 - Jul 7 by numptydumpty |
Sibley has
He got 70 off 46 in t20 and has done well opening the batting in all forms of the game.
Crawley can improve but he needs a refresh from tests as he is not in form at all.
He could improve in time, however he has been given the most opportunities and no signs currently still.
There are others that could come in. I just said Sibley myself as I seen his improvements as I am a Surrey fan, but advocate someone else to be given a chances. Does not have to be Sibley.
Time out of tbe firing line and no reason Crawley could not improve. But currently he is a liability and my view is , it will remain the same if we keep him in, at this current time.
But not saying that as a biased Surrey fan. Advocating Pope to be rested currently as well.
Its clear you are Crawleys number one fan but for me, he needs resting.
You dont agree. Let's see how things pan out.
Sibley averages 41 in all his first class careerr. Crawley is down at 30 throughout his career. And Sibley averages more in t20 and one dayers too, above Crawleys career also.
Sibley last international was four years ago but by way of comparison he got 22 games, Crawley has overall performed poorly for 56 tests.
As said, there are others who could replace Crawley. But you seem to have a massive blind spot around Mr Crawley....
He should be toast for me, but I doubt he will be dropped. Stokes likes him as a player.
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Second thoughts - Can't be a**ed [Post edited 7 Jul 19:25]
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:39 - Jul 8 with 1306 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 18:19 - Jul 7 by JamesB1979 |
You need a quick bowler who can give you 20-30 overs in an innings and put in hard yards with 8 over spells. I don’t think any of those 3 can do that. Archer got ruined by Root when he bowled him 40+ overs in 1 innings. For me, have to play a Carse or even Woakes. They can also bat a bit. |
Has to be Carse. I love Woakes but he rarely does well in overseas Tests, and he's not getting any younger.
A lot of fair debate about Crawley, but he and Duckett do have a reasonable record as openers. Meanwhile the Aussies still don't have a definite opening pair and the rest of their batting isn't set in stone, compared to England's. And the only other question mark is Pope, with Bethell waiting for his chance. Not a terrible problem to have.
As mentioned it's the bowling unit that is most important in Oz and having your fastest bowlers fit and available. Questions to be asked of the strength and conditioning team (do they also work for QPR??). |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:45 - Jul 8 with 1298 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:39 - Jul 8 by TheChef |
Has to be Carse. I love Woakes but he rarely does well in overseas Tests, and he's not getting any younger.
A lot of fair debate about Crawley, but he and Duckett do have a reasonable record as openers. Meanwhile the Aussies still don't have a definite opening pair and the rest of their batting isn't set in stone, compared to England's. And the only other question mark is Pope, with Bethell waiting for his chance. Not a terrible problem to have.
As mentioned it's the bowling unit that is most important in Oz and having your fastest bowlers fit and available. Questions to be asked of the strength and conditioning team (do they also work for QPR??). |
Obviously Woakes is a good bowler, but true definition of madness stuff to pick him for the Aussie tour again.
I understand about needing more overs, but do think it is a negative spin. What about picking the biggest guns so we bowl them out and don't need to bowl a lot of overs? Bethell and Root would have to do the fill in bowling in my team. I also see this tour as the last Test hurrah for Wood, Archer and probably Stokesy as a bowler, so it is now or never to use them. We don't want to go back to the Silverwood days of saving players for a tomorrow that never comes or is rendered a dead rubber. Stack the team from the 1st test with everything we have and give it a real go.
Obviously in true English fashion we are obsessing about the Ashes ahead of even this massive series this summer, but whatever the Indian fans moan about, the Ashes IS the one that matters. Always. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 08:32 - Jul 10 with 1066 views | Rsole |
Big day for Archer and England.
I hope he goes well because he’s going to get a lot of bowling over the next few days. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:01 - Jul 10 with 1000 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 08:32 - Jul 10 by Rsole |
Big day for Archer and England.
I hope he goes well because he’s going to get a lot of bowling over the next few days. |
I hope they actually handle him sensibly this time. Probably not though. Sigh. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:04 - Jul 10 with 982 views | Rsole |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:01 - Jul 10 by TheChef |
I hope they actually handle him sensibly this time. Probably not though. Sigh. |
I suspect that one of the bowlers will break down if they have to bowl the same number of overs as the last test.
Let’s hope we bat first this time - looks good for batting (on TV at least). | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:09 - Jul 10 with 965 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:04 - Jul 10 by Rsole |
I suspect that one of the bowlers will break down if they have to bowl the same number of overs as the last test.
Let’s hope we bat first this time - looks good for batting (on TV at least). |
Which is what we should do 9 times out of 10. Except Bazball.
Odd on India win the toss today and bat. 400 for 4 by end of play. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:31 - Jul 10 with 920 views | Superhoops2808 |
Good toss to win I think, bat big and score big hopefully | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:37 - Jul 10 with 897 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:31 - Jul 10 by Superhoops2808 |
Good toss to win I think, bat big and score big hopefully |
Let's hope so! | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:33 - Jul 10 with 787 views | Rangersw12 |
Crawley looks so out of sorts and will either nick off or will smack a ton | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:42 - Jul 10 with 768 views | Rsole |
Some decent shots from Creepy when he selects the right options.
Bumrah out of the attack already. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:12 - Jul 10 with 679 views | RBlock |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:24 - Jul 10 with 638 views | ozexile |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:12 - Jul 10 by RBlock |
Sigh |
I may be old fashioned but you can't open the batting like Crawley today and score big. He plays like a one dayer. And again walks off with his usual 18. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:38 - Jul 10 with 588 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:24 - Jul 10 by ozexile |
I may be old fashioned but you can't open the batting like Crawley today and score big. He plays like a one dayer. And again walks off with his usual 18. |
As a Crawley fan, what drives me nuts is that when he plays "properly" he looks a million dollars. I don't get charging down the pitch this morning, especially when you have every shot in the book so it is allowed to wait for the bad balls.
Not much he could do about his nick. He did well to edge it, as they say, brilliant ball. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:40 - Jul 10 with 579 views | Superhoops2808 |
Crawley just looked like he was really struggling to get in the groove. Like he was being held back and not allowed to play his usual game. The Indian bowlers in fairness are bowling very well too - Maybe its not the clear cut batting wicket it appeared, lets wait and see. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:42 - Jul 10 with 564 views | RBlock |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:40 - Jul 10 by Superhoops2808 |
Crawley just looked like he was really struggling to get in the groove. Like he was being held back and not allowed to play his usual game. The Indian bowlers in fairness are bowling very well too - Maybe its not the clear cut batting wicket it appeared, lets wait and see. |
There will have been a lot of pressure to make it through Bumrah's early spells and wait until the ball softens a bit on top of his poor form. Probably went out there a bag of nerves, not wanting to get out cheaply. He's been done by a bit of a jaffa, I do feel for him. Duckett on the other hand, very soft. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:51 - Jul 10 with 536 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:38 - Jul 10 by GaryBannister86 |
As a Crawley fan, what drives me nuts is that when he plays "properly" he looks a million dollars. I don't get charging down the pitch this morning, especially when you have every shot in the book so it is allowed to wait for the bad balls.
Not much he could do about his nick. He did well to edge it, as they say, brilliant ball. |
Yeah to be fair he got a decent ball, that happens. But up till then he was playing it like a one dayer swishing around. Probably feeling the pressure?
Duckett getting strangled down leg side is sh1t though. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:55 - Jul 10 with 522 views | CamberleyR |
I saw a fairly interesting stat the other day regarding India's win percentage when Bumrah plays and doesn't play.
It's 70% when he isn't playing (19 wins in 27) and 43% when he is (20 in 46)
It's also 20% higher away from home. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 05:45 - Jul 11 with 316 views | Rsole |
Not the day of cricket I was expecting but good to see the effort and application.
Doubt that Stokes will be bowling much though. Lots of pressure on the others to fill those overs and every run he scores today will count double if he can keep going.
Meanwhile, cRoot ticks over like a well oiled, classic car at the other end. Quality. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 09:20 - Jul 11 with 224 views | Rsole |
Given we now have a substitute ‘keeper in the game, I wonder if it might be time for other subs too.
I know the subs can’t bat but it’s a lot better for the spectators to have a two full teams going hard against each other, especially in a long test series.
Permanent subs might stop some of constant hopping on and off the pitch that we see and it’s probably better for the player's recovery and longevity too.
Guessing that Stokes will play on as much as he can, despite not bowling and then most likely miss the next match(es) regardless.
Sub him after he’s out and maybe the treatment has him back again sooner than 4 consecutive days of captaincy. | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 09:59 - Jul 11 with 183 views | stowmarketrange |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 09:20 - Jul 11 by Rsole |
Given we now have a substitute ‘keeper in the game, I wonder if it might be time for other subs too.
I know the subs can’t bat but it’s a lot better for the spectators to have a two full teams going hard against each other, especially in a long test series.
Permanent subs might stop some of constant hopping on and off the pitch that we see and it’s probably better for the player's recovery and longevity too.
Guessing that Stokes will play on as much as he can, despite not bowling and then most likely miss the next match(es) regardless.
Sub him after he’s out and maybe the treatment has him back again sooner than 4 consecutive days of captaincy. |
There were so many stoppages during play yesterday that I’m surprised that we managed to get through 83 overs instead of the 90 that should’ve been bowled.
In my opinion they should’ve been made to bowl those extra 7 overs,otherwise they’ll carry on doing it.I know it was a hot day and most people had had enough,but 7 overs lost on one days adds up to 35 overs lost during the 5 days.I understand that you can’t do that in countries where there is limited daylight,but we could’ve easily played until 8.30 last night.
Luckily India bowled a few overs of spin or we might’ve been 15 overs short. |  | | |
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