| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread 13:39 - Apr 9 with 81093 views | Superhoops2808 |
With the football season coming to a close in a months time, some here will turn their attention to the smell of freshly mown grass and long days sat in the hot sunny weather watching the great game of cricket.
As a member of Kent Cricket Club, I got to enjoy my first match of the season against Somerset at Canterbury over the last few days. Unfortunately, as is always the way starting the season this early, the first day was lost to rain. In fact nearly all the games were affected by rain, some without a ball even being bowled.
But I did manage to get to see 2 centurions at Canterbury yesterday and a very enjoyable day of cricket (even if I did get sun burned head - Yes I know should have taken a cap).
Did anyone else get to see cricket over the last few days? I know we have several Middlesex supporters who no doubt enjoyed the 'runfest' at Lords (over 1300 runs I believe) [Post edited 4 Apr 13:14]
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 09:30 - Jul 17 with 1508 views | TheChef |
I was at Lord's last night for Middlesex v Surrey, Middlesex had a good go but really it was such a mismatch; nine of the Surrey XI had England experience! Felt like a football cup tie with Middlesex as the plucky underdogs 
Ended up eight runs short, so a bit more economy with the bowling would have helped. Noah Cornwell 1 for 49 from his four overs, dear oh dear. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:20 - Jul 17 with 1361 views | stowmarketrange |
I can’t believe only one side got penalised for a slow over rate.Especially in a game that ended up in a result rather than a draw.
I was there on day 1,and the Indian team were so far behind in overs bowled that they had to bowl spinners for the latter part of the evening session and it was a miracle that we only lost 7 overs in the end. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:22 - Jul 17 with 1354 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:20 - Jul 17 by stowmarketrange |
I can’t believe only one side got penalised for a slow over rate.Especially in a game that ended up in a result rather than a draw.
I was there on day 1,and the Indian team were so far behind in overs bowled that they had to bowl spinners for the latter part of the evening session and it was a miracle that we only lost 7 overs in the end. |
Just remember who really runs the ICC... | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:32 - Jul 17 with 1310 views | OldPedro |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:20 - Jul 17 by stowmarketrange |
I can’t believe only one side got penalised for a slow over rate.Especially in a game that ended up in a result rather than a draw.
I was there on day 1,and the Indian team were so far behind in overs bowled that they had to bowl spinners for the latter part of the evening session and it was a miracle that we only lost 7 overs in the end. |
I think docking points for over rate should only be applied where the game ends in a draw. If a side has won the game, then enough overs were bowled.
Having said that, I do think they need to look at getting more overs bowled somehow or just keep playing until they hit 90 overs. Maybe the prospect of being in the field until 8pm will encourage the bowling team to get through the overs more quickly. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:34 - Jul 17 with 1294 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:20 - Jul 17 by stowmarketrange |
I can’t believe only one side got penalised for a slow over rate.Especially in a game that ended up in a result rather than a draw.
I was there on day 1,and the Indian team were so far behind in overs bowled that they had to bowl spinners for the latter part of the evening session and it was a miracle that we only lost 7 overs in the end. |
Exactly - of the World Test Championship's many flaws, this is just another one. As Stokes says, we play (i) many more games and (ii) most of them on seamer surfaces, so we are bound to struggle to keep up with the over rates.
I never quite get this moaning about having to get 90 overs in all the time. Having been to quite a few days' test cricket, it is the last thing I worry about as long as I am seeing action and quality. It is quite a long day in the sun for most, anyway. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:51 - Jul 17 with 1209 views | ozexile |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:20 - Jul 17 by stowmarketrange |
I can’t believe only one side got penalised for a slow over rate.Especially in a game that ended up in a result rather than a draw.
I was there on day 1,and the Indian team were so far behind in overs bowled that they had to bowl spinners for the latter part of the evening session and it was a miracle that we only lost 7 overs in the end. |
Just knock off 4 runs per over missed at the end of the day. It'll soon pickup. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:12 - Jul 17 with 1161 views | CamberleyR |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:51 - Jul 17 by ozexile |
Just knock off 4 runs per over missed at the end of the day. It'll soon pickup. |
Agree, runs penalties the only way. If they have to start an innings on -30 odd or -40 the skipper will soon make the bowlers hurry up. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:27 - Jul 17 with 1122 views | GaryBannister86 |
It would certainly work, but I am in the Kumar Sangakarra camp here. What it could mean is that skippers would throw the ball to rubbish part-timers just to get the overs done quickly. If I've paid £100 for a ticket I would rather see the best bowlers for 80 overs than 90 overs that include Harry Brook chucking down some filth just to beat the clock? It's Test Cricket, quality should be sacrosanct rather than quantity. | | | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:40 - Jul 17 with 1071 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:27 - Jul 17 by GaryBannister86 |
It would certainly work, but I am in the Kumar Sangakarra camp here. What it could mean is that skippers would throw the ball to rubbish part-timers just to get the overs done quickly. If I've paid £100 for a ticket I would rather see the best bowlers for 80 overs than 90 overs that include Harry Brook chucking down some filth just to beat the clock? It's Test Cricket, quality should be sacrosanct rather than quantity. |
Yeah I take your earlier point about not getting too hung up about the whole 90 overs in a day thing (and is that entirely realistic these days anyway, when did it last actually happen?).
But people are paying a decent wedge for Test matches these days - so I would always look to extend play till 6.30 wherever possible, even till 7pm if the weather and light are fine.
As for the whole points deduction thing, I suppose the BCCI are still p1ssed off India didn't make the 2025 final and don't want that happening again!  | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:11 - Jul 17 with 993 views | ozexile |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:27 - Jul 17 by GaryBannister86 |
It would certainly work, but I am in the Kumar Sangakarra camp here. What it could mean is that skippers would throw the ball to rubbish part-timers just to get the overs done quickly. If I've paid £100 for a ticket I would rather see the best bowlers for 80 overs than 90 overs that include Harry Brook chucking down some filth just to beat the clock? It's Test Cricket, quality should be sacrosanct rather than quantity. |
Don't understand why you think that would happen? If you've got spinners why would you throw the ball to part timers who could get flogged for 8 an over anyway? | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:16 - Jul 17 with 982 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:11 - Jul 17 by ozexile |
Don't understand why you think that would happen? If you've got spinners why would you throw the ball to part timers who could get flogged for 8 an over anyway? |
But if you have got spinners then the over rate issue isn't...going to be an issue. It mainly affects England as we don't bowl a lot of spin at home. So to fit it all in we are either going to bowl spin when we don't want to normally in the game, or throw 'em to a pie chucker.
Personally, I just don't think it works, I don't think it is that important. Fanatics aside, how many test-going fans are in their seat for every ball anyway? A lot leave early, are in the bar, etc. I may be very wide of the mark, but I have never heard any match-going fan complain coming out of a test that they were robbed of overs. Perhaps just coincidence, because logically you want the full product. Just my experience of it all. Or maybe because I often leave early :-) | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:27 - Jul 17 with 951 views | ozexile |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:16 - Jul 17 by GaryBannister86 |
But if you have got spinners then the over rate issue isn't...going to be an issue. It mainly affects England as we don't bowl a lot of spin at home. So to fit it all in we are either going to bowl spin when we don't want to normally in the game, or throw 'em to a pie chucker.
Personally, I just don't think it works, I don't think it is that important. Fanatics aside, how many test-going fans are in their seat for every ball anyway? A lot leave early, are in the bar, etc. I may be very wide of the mark, but I have never heard any match-going fan complain coming out of a test that they were robbed of overs. Perhaps just coincidence, because logically you want the full product. Just my experience of it all. Or maybe because I often leave early :-) |
Yeah I can see both sides of the coin. I must admit I've been to cricket and had a great day and not even realised there were missing overs. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 13:48 - Jul 17 with 862 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 12:16 - Jul 17 by GaryBannister86 |
But if you have got spinners then the over rate issue isn't...going to be an issue. It mainly affects England as we don't bowl a lot of spin at home. So to fit it all in we are either going to bowl spin when we don't want to normally in the game, or throw 'em to a pie chucker.
Personally, I just don't think it works, I don't think it is that important. Fanatics aside, how many test-going fans are in their seat for every ball anyway? A lot leave early, are in the bar, etc. I may be very wide of the mark, but I have never heard any match-going fan complain coming out of a test that they were robbed of overs. Perhaps just coincidence, because logically you want the full product. Just my experience of it all. Or maybe because I often leave early :-) |
I certainly agree that I get bored of the likes of Jonathan Agnew (who I generally like) going on about over rates all the time.
Time wasting is a pain in any sport but half the time it's not the bowlers, it's batters trying to avoid a tricky last over; or wanting new gloves, drinks etc.
Using fast bowlers a lot isn't time wasting and I'd rather watch the quicks going all out (including long run-ups and a breather between deliveries, if that's what it takes) than a lot of dibbly-dobbers or spin just for the sake of over rates (as opposed to spin when it's called for by the match situation.) There's nothing boring about waiting a few seconds for Pat Cummings or Jofra Archer to stat their run-up, it's part of the anticipation that makes Test Cricket a great sport.
Personally I like Andy Zaltzman's suggestion of fining the umpires if there is delay. I'd give them the job of managing time wasting, the right to dish out penalty runs for time-wasting at their discretion (have a yellow card system for warning) and put the match referee in charge of general time management by the ground staff. If the over rate isn't met then you could call the umps and match ref in to see the ICC and have a sensible conversation about why they weren't met. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:11 - Jul 17 with 819 views | TheChef |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 13:48 - Jul 17 by CiderwithRsie |
I certainly agree that I get bored of the likes of Jonathan Agnew (who I generally like) going on about over rates all the time.
Time wasting is a pain in any sport but half the time it's not the bowlers, it's batters trying to avoid a tricky last over; or wanting new gloves, drinks etc.
Using fast bowlers a lot isn't time wasting and I'd rather watch the quicks going all out (including long run-ups and a breather between deliveries, if that's what it takes) than a lot of dibbly-dobbers or spin just for the sake of over rates (as opposed to spin when it's called for by the match situation.) There's nothing boring about waiting a few seconds for Pat Cummings or Jofra Archer to stat their run-up, it's part of the anticipation that makes Test Cricket a great sport.
Personally I like Andy Zaltzman's suggestion of fining the umpires if there is delay. I'd give them the job of managing time wasting, the right to dish out penalty runs for time-wasting at their discretion (have a yellow card system for warning) and put the match referee in charge of general time management by the ground staff. If the over rate isn't met then you could call the umps and match ref in to see the ICC and have a sensible conversation about why they weren't met. |
Sorry but can't agree on Agnew, I think he's a pompous ar$e.
That bet he had about Archer coming back from injury to play Tests again was just so disrespectful. Fair play to him for giving Agnew time of day for an interview at the end of the Lord's Test. I think his expression says it all.
Hope he burnt the stupid fkin hat!
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 15:35 - Jul 17 with 721 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:11 - Jul 17 by TheChef |
Sorry but can't agree on Agnew, I think he's a pompous ar$e.
That bet he had about Archer coming back from injury to play Tests again was just so disrespectful. Fair play to him for giving Agnew time of day for an interview at the end of the Lord's Test. I think his expression says it all.
Hope he burnt the stupid fkin hat!
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Broadly I think he's done a good job as Cricket Correspondent for a long time. There will be mistakes in that but overall I like him.
He does have some stuck-in-the mud whinges and over rates is one that grates with me (there's at least one other that I forget for the moment.) | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 15:41 - Jul 17 with 710 views | CiderwithRsie |
Now I think of it, the other is his instinctive negativity about Bazball.
I remember when Eoin Morgan was first made ODI skipper (which was sort-of the predecessor of Bazball,) when everyone had for years been saying that England's ODI cricket was negative and out-of-date. As soon as we lost a few cheap wickets in the very first game, he was immediately querying whether it would be better to be more cautious.
Jeremy Coney said: "Well, that's one approach. The other is to keep the same style, but do it better." Which was spot-on and proved right. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:00 - Jul 17 with 586 views | Superhoops2808 |
Any Surrey supporters, I am relying on your team tomorrow evening
DO NOT let us down. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 17 with 569 views | Loyalitat |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:00 - Jul 17 by Superhoops2808 |
Any Surrey supporters, I am relying on your team tomorrow evening
DO NOT let us down. |
You'll smash my team, Essex, tomorrow.
Relegation from division one next, I fear. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 22:09 - Jul 17 with 510 views | BlackCrowe |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 14:11 - Jul 17 by TheChef |
Sorry but can't agree on Agnew, I think he's a pompous ar$e.
That bet he had about Archer coming back from injury to play Tests again was just so disrespectful. Fair play to him for giving Agnew time of day for an interview at the end of the Lord's Test. I think his expression says it all.
Hope he burnt the stupid fkin hat!
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I like Agnew a lot. And i think the hat looks good. |  |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 23:13 - Jul 17 with 452 views | joolsyp |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 17 by Loyalitat |
You'll smash my team, Essex, tomorrow.
Relegation from division one next, I fear. |
I don't know, Essex played superbly against my team Hampshire this evening... well, Jordan Cox did! Incredible knock, 11 fours and 11 sixes. |  | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 07:30 - Jul 18 with 359 views | BlackAndGoldRanger |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:00 - Jul 17 by Superhoops2808 |
Any Surrey supporters, I am relying on your team tomorrow evening
DO NOT let us down. |
We will try, still going for top spot in the table. Down to our 5th/6th choice keeper and the internationals have gone back now. Specifically the spinners. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 07:57 - Jul 18 with 333 views | Loyalitat |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 23:13 - Jul 17 by joolsyp |
I don't know, Essex played superbly against my team Hampshire this evening... well, Jordan Cox did! Incredible knock, 11 fours and 11 sixes. |
You said it: Jordan Cox. That's about it along with Michael Pepper in the T20.
I'm not an avid fan of T20 as I much prefer the longer county chamionship/test cricket forms of the game. However, I still like watching it and we have been abject in so many T20 games this season. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 10:55 - Jul 18 with 233 views | OldPedro |
Going back to the tests, I see Dukes are going to be looking at the balls to see if they can workout why they keep going soft so quickly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/c1jw1gn11pdo | |
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| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 11:32 - Jul 18 with 188 views | JamesB1979 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 23:13 - Jul 17 by joolsyp |
I don't know, Essex played superbly against my team Hampshire this evening... well, Jordan Cox did! Incredible knock, 11 fours and 11 sixes. |
Hampshire, mainly Dawson, cheated so badly against Sussex the other day. He knew he’s caught with leg on boundary and celebrated like all above board. | | | |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 13:59 - Jul 18 with 94 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Cricket 2025 County/International Thread on 20:09 - Jul 17 by Loyalitat |
You'll smash my team, Essex, tomorrow.
Relegation from division one next, I fear. |
Dont wanna smash them, just a win will suffice | | | |
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