| Is Nourry that bad? 10:55 - Apr 10 with 8451 views | Andybrat |
So lots and lots and lots of negative opinions on our CEO ( age doesn’t matter by he way) and I get he doesn’t give Clive access to Marti. He has overseen us not getting a FFP fine when for all the wold it looked like we would. Everyone is drooling over our centre back pairing last night, getting Ronnie Edwards the 1st day of the transfer window has been season defining and Morrison is ours permanently under his watch. The DS is in the semis of their biggest cup competition, the squad looks thin because of injuries, but the opposite if the majority were fit. It’s so much stronger than pre-Nourry. I am a glass half full and maybe feel his communication style is not the strongest but I always felt this was about next season. Surgery yes but not as major as we think, somehow need to stem the injuries ( not his area of expertise). Also hoping the rumours of him and Marti falling out ( on various threads) are untrue, stability is an asset. BTW due to not having enough loyalty points I was sitting with a sea of yellow and blue last night, never heard so many compliments about our players and how the hell are we in the position we are. |  | | |  |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 15:23 - Apr 10 with 2104 views | GaryHaddock |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 11:33 - Apr 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
Agree with all of that.
Except that the poor and misleading communications bother me a lot. It's insulting to treat the members of our club like that, it stinks of poor professionalism, and it makes me worry about his judgement and ethics. |
Ethics? No he's from Surrey. |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 15:51 - Apr 10 with 1998 views | stevenagehoop |
Whoever was responsible for the strategy of only having two strikers at the start of the season has to take a lot of responsibility for the position we are in. Neither Frey or Celar have set the world alight even allowing for the injuries they’ve both had. It has led to too much responsibility falling on the shoulders of youngsters still learning their trade.
The second contender for the biggest mistake was whoever sanctioned spending the sort of money we did on Madsen - I just do not see what he brings to the table. If yesterday was a good performance from him it shows the low level that he has performed to the rest of the time.
A wins a win but Oxford were poor - we still have a lot to do. |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 15:55 - Apr 10 with 1983 views | Beckenhamhoop |
He’s not perfect and no club has never not signed a dud footballer at some stage but on the whole I think he’s an upgrade on what went before which was tired, unimaginative and a bit of an old boys club. Of course he’s learning on the job but that would suggest, hopefully, that he’ll learn from his mistakes and get better. I think it’s wat too early to write him off. | | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 16:29 - Apr 10 with 1912 views | Juzzie |
"Is Nourry that bad?"
It seems to be a case of 'yes' when we're losing and 'no' when we're winning. |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 16:50 - Apr 10 with 1861 views | Match82 |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 16:29 - Apr 10 by Juzzie |
"Is Nourry that bad?"
It seems to be a case of 'yes' when we're losing and 'no' when we're winning. |
See also: every manager and every fringe first team player we've ever had (although the ones not playing get better when we're losing!) |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:03 - Apr 10 with 1821 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 12:48 - Apr 10 by DavieQPR |
He doesn't really get lots and lots and lots of negative criticism. It's just 4-5 'supporters' who take every opportunity to turn every topic to a chance to blame him for everything but never give credit where it's due. e.g. Nourry is constantly slated over Masden but Morrison or Nardi are never mentioned. Nourry is not perfect, no one is, but at least he has a pathway in mind. |
This is spot on: there’s a little group on here who have spent all season posting ‘ITK’ facts (opinions) about Nourry, Cifuentes and QPR which in most cases they cannot or will not back up. If anyone has the temerity to challenge them they either do not reply, fail to prove anything or laughably claim the person challenging them has been triggered by their nonsense. They get a bit upset if stuff they post on a football forum isn’t taken as gospel 🤣
Also laughable is when someone appears (SteveW6) who claims to be ITK but with a different opinion to them then they accuse him of being all kinds of people including Stainrod’s Elbow, Nourry, Scott, etc etc.
My opinion. This is Nourry’s first full season and it could certainly have gone better. He’s made some bad mistakes and some good decisions. He’s signed off some bad signings and some good ones.
Is he any better or worse than his predecessors Hoos and Ferdinand? It’s too early to say.
Hope he’s learned lessons and as a club we can build on the positives leading to a better next season. |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:09 - Apr 10 with 1783 views | BklynRanger |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:03 - Apr 10 by Ned_Kennedys |
This is spot on: there’s a little group on here who have spent all season posting ‘ITK’ facts (opinions) about Nourry, Cifuentes and QPR which in most cases they cannot or will not back up. If anyone has the temerity to challenge them they either do not reply, fail to prove anything or laughably claim the person challenging them has been triggered by their nonsense. They get a bit upset if stuff they post on a football forum isn’t taken as gospel 🤣
Also laughable is when someone appears (SteveW6) who claims to be ITK but with a different opinion to them then they accuse him of being all kinds of people including Stainrod’s Elbow, Nourry, Scott, etc etc.
My opinion. This is Nourry’s first full season and it could certainly have gone better. He’s made some bad mistakes and some good decisions. He’s signed off some bad signings and some good ones.
Is he any better or worse than his predecessors Hoos and Ferdinand? It’s too early to say.
Hope he’s learned lessons and as a club we can build on the positives leading to a better next season. |
Look it's very very obviously more than 4 or 5 supporters who have questions and concerns about him. That's just ignoring the reality.
And I say that as someone who's voiced the idea that he might be able to learn from this season's errors. |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:15 - Apr 10 with 1753 views | Tonto |
Lets not forget that he inherited a complete mess. Ainsworth's reign was an unlitigated disaster, the finances were stretched and very few players mathes the Marti way of playing. Most of the llayers at the.club arent his.
IMO we are better now than this time last year. But more work is still needed.
We wont really know the full answer to this question until the end of the seaon after next |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:27 - Apr 10 with 1720 views | charmr |
Hoos on a US Soccer (I know) podcast in an interview was extremely complementary about the guy.
Just saying [Post edited 10 Apr 18:20]
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:36 - Apr 10 with 1692 views | KensalT |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:27 - Apr 10 by charmr |
Hoos on a US Soccer (I know) podcast in an interview was extremely complementary about the guy.
Just saying [Post edited 10 Apr 18:20]
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Have you got a link for that podcast? | | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 18:03 - Apr 10 with 1633 views | charmr |
Podcast is called ‘Founding futbol’ 08/01/24 podcast
An American in London.
It’s a good listen. [Post edited 10 Apr 18:14]
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 18:36 - Apr 10 with 1524 views | Hunterhoop |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:27 - Apr 10 by charmr |
Hoos on a US Soccer (I know) podcast in an interview was extremely complementary about the guy.
Just saying [Post edited 10 Apr 18:20]
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For context, Nourry is Hoos’ man. He hired him. He was his ticket to a part time/semi-retired Chairman role. His success or failure reflects on Hoos. He is vested in him. What he says is far from objective.
I’ve said enough on the matter. What I will point out is that so many seem unable to put two and two together on a specific point: what do practically ALL the people who have met Nourry think? Think of those you know have met him or believe have met him based on what they say. Consider if you want to extend it to those who know people who have met him and had stuff relayed from those encounters. |  | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 18:57 - Apr 10 with 1479 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I'm not a fan of his purely based on the completely lopsided summer recruitment. However putting that aside......
I am very impressed with what is happening in the DS and the youth setup.
• binned off a load of deadwood coaches who were coasting.
• a lot of youngsters signed in the 16/17yo bracket.
• loads of youngsters out on loan at younger ages.
• we've seen 16yos playing in the DS.
• announced if over 18yo and not around the 1st team you'll be released.
I think we underestimate how important all these things are for the future health of the club.
I can see a lot of youngster, who have already played, becoming mainstays of the 1st team next season. Morrison, Kolli, Bennie, Morgan. Then we have Sutton, Tuck etc who could be pushing as well.
Those are positives. | | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 19:28 - Apr 10 with 1418 views | GaryHaddock |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 17:15 - Apr 10 by Tonto |
Lets not forget that he inherited a complete mess. Ainsworth's reign was an unlitigated disaster, the finances were stretched and very few players mathes the Marti way of playing. Most of the llayers at the.club arent his.
IMO we are better now than this time last year. But more work is still needed.
We wont really know the full answer to this question until the end of the seaon after next |
Let’s not re write history, Ainsworth kept us up with more points than we have now with arguably a lot worse squad.
People might not like the football but he fulfilled his remit. [Post edited 10 Apr 19:28]
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 20:29 - Apr 10 with 1320 views | Tonto |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 19:28 - Apr 10 by GaryHaddock |
Let’s not re write history, Ainsworth kept us up with more points than we have now with arguably a lot worse squad.
People might not like the football but he fulfilled his remit. [Post edited 10 Apr 19:28]
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I agree, lets not rewrite history. We were kept up using Beale/Critchley's squad. A lot of the points were won under Beale, not the other two.
The squad wasnt palying for Ainsworth, the players brought in were not up to the standard. It was a disaster and nothing else. | |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 20:59 - Apr 10 with 1267 views | GaryHaddock |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 20:29 - Apr 10 by Tonto |
I agree, lets not rewrite history. We were kept up using Beale/Critchley's squad. A lot of the points were won under Beale, not the other two.
The squad wasnt palying for Ainsworth, the players brought in were not up to the standard. It was a disaster and nothing else. |
Just an opinion, but disaster to me means relegation or bankruptcy or points deduction. Not survival by two places and six points. He certainly didn’t spend £9m to scrape survival.
To say it’s a disaster is hyperbole to me and I don’t think he deserves it. He wasn’t very good for us, and to exaggerate that is mean spirited towards someone who gave a lot to this club and did it as best he could. | | | |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 21:47 - Apr 10 with 1186 views | PunteR |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 20:29 - Apr 10 by Tonto |
I agree, lets not rewrite history. We were kept up using Beale/Critchley's squad. A lot of the points were won under Beale, not the other two.
The squad wasnt palying for Ainsworth, the players brought in were not up to the standard. It was a disaster and nothing else. |
Let's not re write history. Most of that Beale squad was down to Warburton. ;) |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 22:41 - Apr 10 with 1079 views | Benny_the_Ball |
You lost me at "age doesn't matter by the way". By any measure it's utterly ludicrous of the owners to offer the job of CEO to someone in his 20s as you simply can't possess the necessary experience and acumen to be successful in such a high profile senior role. To then combine it with the DOF role is plain bonkers, as is you claiming that age doesn't matter. The fact that you slipped that in in brackets belies the fact that you know full well it does but you just want to stir it up. If you do truly believe that it doesn't then you have less common sense than you do loyalty points. [Post edited 10 Apr 22:57]
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 23:59 - Apr 10 with 924 views | numptydumpty |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 22:41 - Apr 10 by Benny_the_Ball |
You lost me at "age doesn't matter by the way". By any measure it's utterly ludicrous of the owners to offer the job of CEO to someone in his 20s as you simply can't possess the necessary experience and acumen to be successful in such a high profile senior role. To then combine it with the DOF role is plain bonkers, as is you claiming that age doesn't matter. The fact that you slipped that in in brackets belies the fact that you know full well it does but you just want to stir it up. If you do truly believe that it doesn't then you have less common sense than you do loyalty points. [Post edited 10 Apr 22:57]
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Twenty six for a role of such importance for so many, it's too young, unless a person is exceptionally gifted.
But he has in my view considering this, done a reasonable job.
He gets the blame when we are awful and is not mentioned at all, if we excel.
I would not have combined the two roles he has, myself.
It's been fair, but lots of improvements required for me.
The smokescreen about injuries, the lack of being real in being open to supporters and the strange announcements of contract extensions at opportune times. |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 07:54 - Apr 11 with 662 views | Tonto |
That forgets that Ainsworth started off the 24/25 season.
He won only 5 out of 26 games in his time with us.
If thats not a disaster then i dont know what is | |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 08:50 - Apr 11 with 603 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 20:59 - Apr 10 by GaryHaddock |
Just an opinion, but disaster to me means relegation or bankruptcy or points deduction. Not survival by two places and six points. He certainly didn’t spend £9m to scrape survival.
To say it’s a disaster is hyperbole to me and I don’t think he deserves it. He wasn’t very good for us, and to exaggerate that is mean spirited towards someone who gave a lot to this club and did it as best he could. |
Hmm, I don't know about that.
Ainsworth was a truly dreadful appointment; the outcome of which was of no surprise to anyone who has ever paid to walk through the turnstyles at QPR.
For me, his appointment merely perpetuated the notion that QPR's decision makers are more adept at meandering the ship into the sea of calamity as opposed to sailing us away from it. Honestly, I remain surprised at Amit for this appointment; he always seemed more savvy then that.
The most telling suggestion from above is the one that hints at CN not liking to be challenged/questioned. This in a pup with no relevant experience is a dangerous trait if true. |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 08:55 - Apr 11 with 600 views | SW_Ranger |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 07:54 - Apr 11 by Tonto |
That forgets that Ainsworth started off the 24/25 season.
He won only 5 out of 26 games in his time with us.
If thats not a disaster then i dont know what is |
I’m sure it’s a been a tougher season than Nourry expected. He’s made mistakes - some good players have come in, some promising future players have come in. We’ve had a few shockers too. I don’t know any club that gets it 100% right on player recruitment but Celar and Madsen have been really bad ones to date. Feels as though Celar needs time; Madsen looks incredibly lazy and out of it, just can’t see him being a success here I’m afraid.
I don’t know Nourry, never talked to the guy, so it’s only a helicopter view from me. Yes he’s young, he’s crammed a lot of experience into his youthful years and I’m sure he’s learning. He’s made a lot of changes that needed making in the youth systems - which others have avoided. He could, however, end up with a huge blot on his reputation if Martí walks (even more so if we have a worse season in 25/26). I think there’s more to come from Nourry, we’ll see. Something needed to change and he’s at least done some of that.
He hasn’t taken us down but he hasn’t improved our fortunes much on the pitch either. This coming off-season is going to be huge for him and the club. Will it be improvement? More of the same? Or disaster? No bloody idea - this is QPR after all. [Post edited 11 Apr 8:56]
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 09:05 - Apr 11 with 584 views | wombat |
| Is Nourry that bad? on 08:55 - Apr 11 by SW_Ranger |
I’m sure it’s a been a tougher season than Nourry expected. He’s made mistakes - some good players have come in, some promising future players have come in. We’ve had a few shockers too. I don’t know any club that gets it 100% right on player recruitment but Celar and Madsen have been really bad ones to date. Feels as though Celar needs time; Madsen looks incredibly lazy and out of it, just can’t see him being a success here I’m afraid.
I don’t know Nourry, never talked to the guy, so it’s only a helicopter view from me. Yes he’s young, he’s crammed a lot of experience into his youthful years and I’m sure he’s learning. He’s made a lot of changes that needed making in the youth systems - which others have avoided. He could, however, end up with a huge blot on his reputation if Martí walks (even more so if we have a worse season in 25/26). I think there’s more to come from Nourry, we’ll see. Something needed to change and he’s at least done some of that.
He hasn’t taken us down but he hasn’t improved our fortunes much on the pitch either. This coming off-season is going to be huge for him and the club. Will it be improvement? More of the same? Or disaster? No bloody idea - this is QPR after all. [Post edited 11 Apr 8:56]
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not been a fan since he joined , the fans arent worthy enough to know players contracts was one of his first cock up, the total controil he wants in everything , the lack of allowing management to speak , the terribly fake fans forum , the wasting of what money we had on celar and madson , do i trtust him to doa major re build this summer NO , im expceting another bunch of foreign youngsters to come in with zero knowldge of english football , so another car crash of a start whuile we pray they bed in , we could have the eze money this summer which would give us some head room , and aybe better players being able to be brought in , do i trust him to find them after madson and celar NO
do i trust him to find a replacment for marti if he does indeed leave this summer NO ,
so no im not a fan in anway of him |  |
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| Is Nourry that bad? on 09:13 - Apr 11 with 569 views | gazza1 |
Yea, its all Nourry's fault, nothing to do with the players & management.
So much 'rubbish' on this thread by posters who know nothing basically. | | | |
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