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Seeing a fair few negative assessments of him over this close season (Gallen & Dave Mc + several posters on here) saying he's either not good enough or should go on loan to L1.
I'm totally perplexed by it.
The guy is a rare gem. For me, the reason he's special is his back to goal game. It's something you don't get very often in a young player.
Not only does he have a powerful strike, good feet and composure - he is also strong and relishes the battle and hold up stuff. He's also tall and good in the air.
So yeah - he's not a 10, he's not a winger (not quick enough) - he's a striker. His stats speak for themselves, when he plays, one game in every two he tended to make something happen with an assist or goal.
Stats aside, even just with the naked eye, you can just see he has what it takes. Best youth prospect at this club since Eze IMO.
I don't get why people are down on him. He's just 20 years old and straight out of our youth team!
I think we agree. Kolli is legitimately a QPR youth product, and I really think he is exciting and could come good. But he isn't it yet.
I really hope the people around him aren't telling him he's already made it, as he still has loads more development to do.
He only has to look at Willock and Armstrong to see that forcing a move away too soon isn't the best long term
I think we somewhat agree. It's important that he continues to be pushed and not to think "I've made it" of course and he is very exciting.
After games like Norwich at home however I don't think it's possible for me to agree with "he's not good yet". That wasn't a fluke for me, I think he has unbelievable talent and is definitely good enough for the level. It's just about gametime now, finding consistency, finding his best role in the team. Improving in all aspects of the game. The output he's already shown is impressive given his age and experience. The floor is good, the ceiling... well let's see.
I think Kolli will be absolutely fine for us next season as an emerging young player in a 2 up front.
He doesn't do well as a lone striker, and he has a tendency to try to force shots at times rather pick a pass. But he's got good physicality, a decent touch, some goal scoring instinct, reasonable movement and he's signed up to a long term contract (isn't he? Who knows).
Lblock, your comment was right, there isn't much negativity surrounding Kolli. But if someone wants to go there, unfortunately there is a common theme regarding the very few
I think you're seeing a small puff of smoke and trying to find a fire that suits.
Later on you then say one fella was giving him religious based abuse. I don't get it but then I don't go on all these mental platforms that seem be shaping group thinking these days.
What I do know is in August I can guarantee there will be a few people in W12 boozers saying "don' rate him, doesn't do enough, blah, blah, blah". That doesn't make those fans anti this or anti that; it's an opinion and I get that. I'll be countering those opinions with how highly I rate this lad and I'd hope I can go back to those self same doubters in January or May and say "told ya! Kolli is class"
We'll see but I remain very hopeful for him this season.
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
I think you're seeing a small puff of smoke and trying to find a fire that suits.
Later on you then say one fella was giving him religious based abuse. I don't get it but then I don't go on all these mental platforms that seem be shaping group thinking these days.
What I do know is in August I can guarantee there will be a few people in W12 boozers saying "don' rate him, doesn't do enough, blah, blah, blah". That doesn't make those fans anti this or anti that; it's an opinion and I get that. I'll be countering those opinions with how highly I rate this lad and I'd hope I can go back to those self same doubters in January or May and say "told ya! Kolli is class"
We'll see but I remain very hopeful for him this season.
I think we're looking at it from different perspectives because I don't think "getting stick" is the same as just mild football discourse like we've been talking about in this thread.
Perhaps I shouldn't have gone there but the "All the GPNourry paid bots hating on him" narrative is just so boring I couldn't help but comment, so apologies for that. A lot of the people that like Nourry online are the younger lot who also like what we're doing with our young talent hence big Kolli fans.
I'd just say continue to avoid those platforms and I hope I can make the exact same comments to the doubters
Really?? Based on what evidence?? It certainly can't be goals or assists. Or hold up play. Or touch. Or finishing. Or desire.
Wilkins, sorry, but you've just got no idea mate. You're probably one of the lot on here who thought Eze was a lazy ineffective luxury player (of which there were many)
If he gets the games then this season will conclusively prove you're wrong about Kolli. I'll be glad to come back to this thread and we can see who called this right.
But you would put him behind Chair, Smyth, Frey and Poku? I'm not saying he is a bad player, but he is not a starter and there are those players above that are ahead. I didn't even mention Vale, Morgan or Sutton who can also play that 10/winger role.
It's a great position, as a QPR fan, to be in. 12/18 months ago some were clamouring for Kolli to start, but now the squad is much more competitive and he is going to have to improve quickly and significantly to nail a starting place.
But you would put him behind Chair, Smyth, Frey and Poku? I'm not saying he is a bad player, but he is not a starter and there are those players above that are ahead. I didn't even mention Vale, Morgan or Sutton who can also play that 10/winger role.
It's a great position, as a QPR fan, to be in. 12/18 months ago some were clamouring for Kolli to start, but now the squad is much more competitive and he is going to have to improve quickly and significantly to nail a starting place.
That is actually a good thing for the club.
Wilkins - the only person on that list that plays as a striker (which is and has been Kolli’s position) is Frey.
So I dont know why you keep asking if he’s ahead of Chair and Smyth. It’s completely irrelevant.
He’s better than Celar, has several attributes better than Frey, he’s better in games where we want to dominate that Lloyd and I have no idea about Kelman yet
Wilkins - the only person on that list that plays as a striker (which is and has been Kolli’s position) is Frey.
So I dont know why you keep asking if he’s ahead of Chair and Smyth. It’s completely irrelevant.
He’s better than Celar, has several attributes better than Frey, he’s better in games where we want to dominate that Lloyd and I have no idea about Kelman yet
He's played as a striker and done a pretty poor job, as has been mentioned by others on here. He can't play the lone striker role due to his inability to hold the ball up. So he either plays as one of two upfront if we play 442 or he plays as a 10 or wing. He isn't a starter yet.
He's played as a striker and done a pretty poor job, as has been mentioned by others on here. He can't play the lone striker role due to his inability to hold the ball up. So he either plays as one of two upfront if we play 442 or he plays as a 10 or wing. He isn't a starter yet.
Did his dad upset you at a DS game or something? There must be some reason you are so down on him.
Be interesting to see how Kolli adapts to the new regime, not an out and out striker for me, but is a work in progress and let's see if he really pushes on this season.
We would be playing Cardiff this year without his emergence. Considering he came in and filled for a World Cup Striker (Celar) and showed the confidence to take on defenders and shoot the ball....at the goal with decent effect was revelatory. Prior to that inspiring performance against Norwich, a 0-0 score was best hope.
Kolli's finish at Plymouth had a touch of the Taarabts.
Quick, instinctive, unexpected, clinical.
I suspect this year he'll mostly be used off the bench (as he was on that day), but I genuinely think he can have a breakout season from there. Hope Le Gaffer has a few ideas re how to get the best out of his natural talents.
The peaks and troughs of this thread are entertaining - swinging from a player that couldn't tie his shoes to the next Eze
Let's get these extremes out the way - he's never going to be Eze levels, because the Rodgers, Eze, Bowens of this league are rare as rocking horse shÃt. Chair is a more realistic comparison/target, which is still very very high praise. On the other side of the coin, he's ahead of the other youth prospects we have and better than any we've probably seen since Ebs. That speaks more to the rarity of our academy products, but it's still shows the levels.
Despite people on here only wanting to compare him to our strikers, part of his current issue (other than availability) is not quite pinning down a position yet. He's got a skillset across the front 3-4 positions, which is again why it's important for him to just graft this season and trust the manager to put him in the best place to succeed while he figures out where he works best. He's 20, there's no issue with any of that.
In terms of strikers though, he's currently 4th choice - regardless of 1 or 2 up top - which is cool as long as he and the 'advisors' around him accept that and understand that he's got a great opportunity this season to kick on and be a proper starter we can rely on.
The peaks and troughs of this thread are entertaining - swinging from a player that couldn't tie his shoes to the next Eze
Let's get these extremes out the way - he's never going to be Eze levels, because the Rodgers, Eze, Bowens of this league are rare as rocking horse shÃt. Chair is a more realistic comparison/target, which is still very very high praise. On the other side of the coin, he's ahead of the other youth prospects we have and better than any we've probably seen since Ebs. That speaks more to the rarity of our academy products, but it's still shows the levels.
Despite people on here only wanting to compare him to our strikers, part of his current issue (other than availability) is not quite pinning down a position yet. He's got a skillset across the front 3-4 positions, which is again why it's important for him to just graft this season and trust the manager to put him in the best place to succeed while he figures out where he works best. He's 20, there's no issue with any of that.
In terms of strikers though, he's currently 4th choice - regardless of 1 or 2 up top - which is cool as long as he and the 'advisors' around him accept that and understand that he's got a great opportunity this season to kick on and be a proper starter we can rely on.
I reckon this ^^ sums it up neatly for me, at least
I know Vale's trim ain't the best but comparing him to a 50 year old Steve Cook is nasty work
Vale can be seen letting Varanes' diagonal go over his head as Poku receives and knocks it past him, as if he's not there. More evidence that we need another LB :P
Good to see the new Aussie kid training with the 1st team and playing at RB!
Vale can be seen letting Varanes' diagonal go over his head as Poku receives and knocks it past him, as if he's not there. More evidence that we need another LB :P
Good to see the new Aussie kid training with the 1st team and playing at RB!
Interesting to look through tbf, in the training footage they're using the following back 4's
He's played as a striker and done a pretty poor job, as has been mentioned by others on here. He can't play the lone striker role due to his inability to hold the ball up. So he either plays as one of two upfront if we play 442 or he plays as a 10 or wing. He isn't a starter yet.
He played as striker vs Norwich and scored two goals.
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