| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:30 - Jul 9 with 2573 views | Landshark |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 22:45 - Jul 8 by connell10 |
So we could be in line for a bit of dosh, what's not to like . |
I am guessing we're still paying him, he still has a wage coming from us each month while he's sitting on the beach drinking the Estrella and eating paella. |  | |  |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:31 - Jul 9 with 2565 views | Rsole |
If the contract ran for another 4-5 months (obvs unknown), then they could have settled with salary payments but kept the release clause in until the date of contract expiry as part of the deal.
Marti makes way for Julien and gets paid for doing so but we retain the release clause until the contract ends.
You could imagine the lawyers agreeing something along those lines and getting paid more than the release clause to do so :-) |  |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:33 - Jul 9 with 2555 views | lassel |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 22:40 - Jul 8 by QPR_Hibs |
My interpretation of the WLS article is that Marti and QPR parted ways by "mutual consent," with his contract being paid up but with the club retaining a compensation clause should he get another job in football within a specified time limit.
Just my interpretation .... |
Essentially yeah.
*edit* I don’t think he will get the job though, seems Leicester are scrambling around trying to recruit [Post edited 9 Jul 7:35]
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:43 - Jul 9 with 2519 views | JamesB1979 |
So we paid up Marti’s contract when he left us? He joins Leicester and we get that back? Or we make a profit? Was there a time limit when we wouldn’t be due any compensation?
Pleased that Xavi is going to get the job with Marti. I thought he was going to end up in limbo. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:46 - Jul 9 with 2504 views | QPR_Jim |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 22:28 - Jul 8 by stainrods_elbow |
I find your view frankly bizarre and perverse (no offence).
So our ex-manager, who was always telling how much he loved us/the club etc., sounds out alternative employment (either directly or through his representatives) and the club/our CEO is supposed to suck it up (instead of, rightly, feeling upset/ bewildered/ dishonoured)?
Instead, you somehow spin it into more evidence of CN's supposed industrial psychopathy, while bleating 'poor Marti' to anyone who'll listen!
Bizarre, as I say! Are you working for him or something? |
I'm surprised someone of your towering intellect is unable to grasp a scenario where Marti may love the club where the fans sing his name through thick and thin and where players like Dunne give him 100% each game. Yet at the same time dislike being told to play a certain formation (game model) that our squad isn't capable of winning with while the DoF's allows the guy in charge of making sure the players are fit is allowed to work part time and remotely and was reputedly keen to sack him last September.
In that situation it seems plausible that Marti both loves the club but would prefer to be employed elsewhere.
Of course pointing that out can only mean I hate CN because we certainly shouldn't be concerned about a DoF who claims credit for signing Marti because he's popular with the fans despite him being linked long before his involvement. Or someone who allows people to phone in their role from the other side of the world, so long as they are friends/employed through his old company. Or the fact that he's trying to limit communication with fans so that in the future we're less likely to have enough information to call out his lies. We should just turn a blind eye to all those red flags because it's more important to give CN the benefit of the doubt than worry about the club. |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:51 - Jul 9 with 2469 views | Ghost_on_the_Westway |
Please, No. Couldn’t bear to see him in the oppo dugout, like with Terry, then Gerry.
NW I could deal with, because it’s quicker to list the teams he hasn’t managed.
Find a nice gig in Europe somewhere Marti. Better climate, food, etc. |  |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:56 - Jul 9 with 2447 views | JamesB1979 |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:46 - Jul 9 by QPR_Jim |
I'm surprised someone of your towering intellect is unable to grasp a scenario where Marti may love the club where the fans sing his name through thick and thin and where players like Dunne give him 100% each game. Yet at the same time dislike being told to play a certain formation (game model) that our squad isn't capable of winning with while the DoF's allows the guy in charge of making sure the players are fit is allowed to work part time and remotely and was reputedly keen to sack him last September.
In that situation it seems plausible that Marti both loves the club but would prefer to be employed elsewhere.
Of course pointing that out can only mean I hate CN because we certainly shouldn't be concerned about a DoF who claims credit for signing Marti because he's popular with the fans despite him being linked long before his involvement. Or someone who allows people to phone in their role from the other side of the world, so long as they are friends/employed through his old company. Or the fact that he's trying to limit communication with fans so that in the future we're less likely to have enough information to call out his lies. We should just turn a blind eye to all those red flags because it's more important to give CN the benefit of the doubt than worry about the club. |
Agree on first part re Marti.
On Nourry, you’ve only mentioned negatives, which says a lot. I think they are more than offset by a lot of the good work he has done since joining. He also does seem to have listened on a couple of those areas you mention. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:00 - Jul 9 with 2259 views | Myke |
The Marti party has left the building. The Julie hooley is about to begin | | | |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:04 - Jul 9 with 2231 views | rbee |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:51 - Jul 9 by Ghost_on_the_Westway |
Please, No. Couldn’t bear to see him in the oppo dugout, like with Terry, then Gerry.
NW I could deal with, because it’s quicker to list the teams he hasn’t managed.
Find a nice gig in Europe somewhere Marti. Better climate, food, etc. |
Gerry stiched us up with Clive Wilson! |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:12 - Jul 9 with 2188 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:46 - Jul 9 by QPR_Jim |
I'm surprised someone of your towering intellect is unable to grasp a scenario where Marti may love the club where the fans sing his name through thick and thin and where players like Dunne give him 100% each game. Yet at the same time dislike being told to play a certain formation (game model) that our squad isn't capable of winning with while the DoF's allows the guy in charge of making sure the players are fit is allowed to work part time and remotely and was reputedly keen to sack him last September.
In that situation it seems plausible that Marti both loves the club but would prefer to be employed elsewhere.
Of course pointing that out can only mean I hate CN because we certainly shouldn't be concerned about a DoF who claims credit for signing Marti because he's popular with the fans despite him being linked long before his involvement. Or someone who allows people to phone in their role from the other side of the world, so long as they are friends/employed through his old company. Or the fact that he's trying to limit communication with fans so that in the future we're less likely to have enough information to call out his lies. We should just turn a blind eye to all those red flags because it's more important to give CN the benefit of the doubt than worry about the club. |
MC has gone, we've got a new coach and Nourry is still here. Move on FFS. | |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:54 - Jul 9 with 2004 views | Northernr |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:12 - Jul 9 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
MC has gone, we've got a new coach and Nourry is still here. Move on FFS. |
If you hadn't drunk all the Kool-Aid, there'd maybe be a bit more to go around  |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:01 - Jul 9 with 1820 views | Malintabuk |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 22:34 - Jul 8 by Myke |
I think we need to move on. |
Really agree... it is time the Marti episode for us fans is closed.
We have moaned on here countless times how we are a soft touch... how we let this player or that player stitch us up, and we roll over and have our tummies tickled
Again we are all assuming that Marti was whiter than white, is the aggrieved party to the evil CN... when really we will never know what went on and what happened
It is time to move on. I wish Marti no ill, and hope he finds somewhere... and is successful, so long as that success has no bearing on us.
But I'm sure he is not pining away for QPR and we are firmly in his rear view mirror | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:03 - Jul 9 with 1814 views | Northernr |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:01 - Jul 9 by Malintabuk |
Really agree... it is time the Marti episode for us fans is closed.
We have moaned on here countless times how we are a soft touch... how we let this player or that player stitch us up, and we roll over and have our tummies tickled
Again we are all assuming that Marti was whiter than white, is the aggrieved party to the evil CN... when really we will never know what went on and what happened
It is time to move on. I wish Marti no ill, and hope he finds somewhere... and is successful, so long as that success has no bearing on us.
But I'm sure he is not pining away for QPR and we are firmly in his rear view mirror |
I wouldn't get your hopes up mate, we're currently averaging three Eze threads a day. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:06 - Jul 9 with 1794 views | Mr_Beef |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:01 - Jul 9 by Malintabuk |
Really agree... it is time the Marti episode for us fans is closed.
We have moaned on here countless times how we are a soft touch... how we let this player or that player stitch us up, and we roll over and have our tummies tickled
Again we are all assuming that Marti was whiter than white, is the aggrieved party to the evil CN... when really we will never know what went on and what happened
It is time to move on. I wish Marti no ill, and hope he finds somewhere... and is successful, so long as that success has no bearing on us.
But I'm sure he is not pining away for QPR and we are firmly in his rear view mirror |
If you want to move on from it perhaps opening a thread with the heading "Marti to Leicester...maybe" might be unwise. |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:09 - Jul 9 with 1767 views | ted_hendrix |
Cifuentes can go to wherever the hell he wants to, he's history as far as I'm concerned. |  |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:11 - Jul 9 with 1737 views | lassel |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:01 - Jul 9 by Malintabuk |
Really agree... it is time the Marti episode for us fans is closed.
We have moaned on here countless times how we are a soft touch... how we let this player or that player stitch us up, and we roll over and have our tummies tickled
Again we are all assuming that Marti was whiter than white, is the aggrieved party to the evil CN... when really we will never know what went on and what happened
It is time to move on. I wish Marti no ill, and hope he finds somewhere... and is successful, so long as that success has no bearing on us.
But I'm sure he is not pining away for QPR and we are firmly in his rear view mirror |
Agreed in principle but of course it comes back to the initial point before MC left that both sides should just be grown ups and part gracefully.
Even now, they want a new employer to pay them rather than MC give back some of his payoff so that they can spin that they got paid compensation rather than admitting MC ‘only’ got paid a net £xxx,000k to leave.
Just be grown ups, sort it gracefully and move on - we appear to have gotten a good’un in the new guy, vibes seem pretty positive, why bog yourself down still in petty old ego clashes. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:19 - Jul 9 with 1686 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:11 - Jul 9 by lassel |
Agreed in principle but of course it comes back to the initial point before MC left that both sides should just be grown ups and part gracefully.
Even now, they want a new employer to pay them rather than MC give back some of his payoff so that they can spin that they got paid compensation rather than admitting MC ‘only’ got paid a net £xxx,000k to leave.
Just be grown ups, sort it gracefully and move on - we appear to have gotten a good’un in the new guy, vibes seem pretty positive, why bog yourself down still in petty old ego clashes. |
Because the senior management at QPR are sending a clear message that the gravy train is over. If they want a coach to leave then the payoff is on their terms. So even if you are put on gardening leave and paid for a few months, the club will try to get this back as soon as you start your next job.
This is 100% about ego's, there is no way anyone is putting them aside in this case, that's how we ended up in this farce
Isn't a similar scenario to when Lee Cook went to Fulham? Didn't he pay QPR back with some of the Fulham money to get out of his contract earlier? The spin on that was that Cook was a good guy, not that he wanted to leave, even at his own personal expense |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:30 - Jul 9 with 1630 views | QPR_Jim |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:56 - Jul 9 by JamesB1979 |
Agree on first part re Marti.
On Nourry, you’ve only mentioned negatives, which says a lot. I think they are more than offset by a lot of the good work he has done since joining. He also does seem to have listened on a couple of those areas you mention. |
My comments on CN are not a set of positives and negatives to evaluate whether he's overall good or bad. I'm merely pointing out the actions that lead me not to trust him.
So for clarity, I am happy to say that he has done some good things, never claimed he hadn't. Also for clarity, I don't have a personal vendetta against him or hate him. I just find it hard to trust him for the reasons stated in my first post, despite his 35 years experience in football or whatever the first obvious lie was. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:38 - Jul 9 with 1595 views | QPR_Jim |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 09:12 - Jul 9 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
MC has gone, we've got a new coach and Nourry is still here. Move on FFS. |
So we shouldn't be concerned about the actions of the man that's still here? Just ignore that and hope he changes his ways or gets better at telling lies so we don't notice? Not sure how that helps QPR. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:54 - Jul 9 with 1489 views | lassel |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:19 - Jul 9 by nick_hammersmith |
Because the senior management at QPR are sending a clear message that the gravy train is over. If they want a coach to leave then the payoff is on their terms. So even if you are put on gardening leave and paid for a few months, the club will try to get this back as soon as you start your next job.
This is 100% about ego's, there is no way anyone is putting them aside in this case, that's how we ended up in this farce
Isn't a similar scenario to when Lee Cook went to Fulham? Didn't he pay QPR back with some of the Fulham money to get out of his contract earlier? The spin on that was that Cook was a good guy, not that he wanted to leave, even at his own personal expense |
You’re missing the key point. Qpr getting some of the payoff back is good news and I’m sure supported by all fans.
However ultimately it makes 0 difference if MC pays a release or a new employer does except to the club who want to spin it as a success. Jeopardising that for the chance to say you ‘won’ by ‘only’ ending up paying out most of the contract rather then all of it is just pointless ego driven nonsense.
Get it sorted, get some money back, spend it strengthening the squad and be happy with the exciting new guy. | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:56 - Jul 9 with 1487 views | Kiko |
Going to be unbearable whenhe takes Leicester up next season. There'll be a nauseating media love in about how they found the next great manager whilst his time at QPR is ignored. I'm still bitter the board made this decision | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:59 - Jul 9 with 1481 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:54 - Jul 9 by lassel |
You’re missing the key point. Qpr getting some of the payoff back is good news and I’m sure supported by all fans.
However ultimately it makes 0 difference if MC pays a release or a new employer does except to the club who want to spin it as a success. Jeopardising that for the chance to say you ‘won’ by ‘only’ ending up paying out most of the contract rather then all of it is just pointless ego driven nonsense.
Get it sorted, get some money back, spend it strengthening the squad and be happy with the exciting new guy. |
I understand the concept.
Its like paying a parking fine early and being happy it was £80 instead of £160 | | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 12:11 - Jul 9 with 1386 views | RBlock |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:19 - Jul 9 by nick_hammersmith |
Because the senior management at QPR are sending a clear message that the gravy train is over. If they want a coach to leave then the payoff is on their terms. So even if you are put on gardening leave and paid for a few months, the club will try to get this back as soon as you start your next job.
This is 100% about ego's, there is no way anyone is putting them aside in this case, that's how we ended up in this farce
Isn't a similar scenario to when Lee Cook went to Fulham? Didn't he pay QPR back with some of the Fulham money to get out of his contract earlier? The spin on that was that Cook was a good guy, not that he wanted to leave, even at his own personal expense |
Lee Cook didn't go to Fulham on a free, he cost them £2.5m, and then he paid his £25,000 signing on fee back to the club as we were skint at the time. Entirely different. |  | | |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 12:11 - Jul 9 with 1382 views | Lblock |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 11:59 - Jul 9 by nick_hammersmith |
I understand the concept.
Its like paying a parking fine early and being happy it was £80 instead of £160 |
Yeah but.... there was a free parking spot right next to that double yellow you pitched up on as you thought it suited you better.
So it does still rankle.
I was hoping Marti went back to Europe.
He'll have learnt a lot from his time here and be infinitely better for it.
I'm with a lot of what Nourry is about, just that narcissism childish trait bit ruins the rest of it. |  |
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| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 12:21 - Jul 9 with 1340 views | Mirrorball |
| Marti to Leicester…maybe on 07:46 - Jul 9 by QPR_Jim |
I'm surprised someone of your towering intellect is unable to grasp a scenario where Marti may love the club where the fans sing his name through thick and thin and where players like Dunne give him 100% each game. Yet at the same time dislike being told to play a certain formation (game model) that our squad isn't capable of winning with while the DoF's allows the guy in charge of making sure the players are fit is allowed to work part time and remotely and was reputedly keen to sack him last September.
In that situation it seems plausible that Marti both loves the club but would prefer to be employed elsewhere.
Of course pointing that out can only mean I hate CN because we certainly shouldn't be concerned about a DoF who claims credit for signing Marti because he's popular with the fans despite him being linked long before his involvement. Or someone who allows people to phone in their role from the other side of the world, so long as they are friends/employed through his old company. Or the fact that he's trying to limit communication with fans so that in the future we're less likely to have enough information to call out his lies. We should just turn a blind eye to all those red flags because it's more important to give CN the benefit of the doubt than worry about the club. |
Your "red flags" only appear to be red flags if your interpretation of what happened is correct.
Did Nourry claim to be involved in identifying and signing Marti? Yes he did. Something that is backed up by the CEO at the time. Who do you think is more informed about his involvement in signing him. Is it you or the man who worked on the signing day to day?
Did he allow Ben Williams to continue his involvement with the club remotely? Yes he did. Did he do that because Ben Williams is his friend as you speculate or did he feel (wrongly) that the club would continue to benefit from having him involved even if he wasn't in situ? We don't know but you you insinuate that your speculation is fact.
Is there less communication than before? Yes there is. Nourry has said, for example, that he believes not revealing contract details gives a competitive edge. He may be wrong or he may be right. You interpret that as him trying to hide his "lies".
Your "red flags" are only red if you believe your interpretations which are not facts just unfounded opinions. | | | |
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