| Next weeks fans forum 22:34 - Jul 23 with 28710 views | wombat |
Clive can we get a bingo card going with what we are going to be told on Tuesday night .
I’ll start with serious movement in the ground development scheme
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| Next weeks fans forum on 18:07 - Jul 30 with 1973 views | Northernr |
| Next weeks fans forum on 17:05 - Jul 30 by Stainrod |
Of course, but you are approaching it as a journalist, wishing to extract information (and for what my opinion is worth, you are an incredibly good and passionate one). For some fans its more a social event, they are probably a bit star struck (odd though that might seem to confirmed cynics as ourselves not impressed by "celebrity"). Some fans might have just wanted to make Julian feel welcome, but no, I don't give a f*ck if he likes the food personally, and if he can't find good food in London that's down to him. One or two fans might not be that enquiring. But that's the fan base. I was pleasantly surprised there was no question about the water pressure...
Where you have a strong case IMHO is that he should submit himself to interview by you, where you could be forensic. In fairness to him he is young, was clearly insecure (which he attempted to hide with jargon and mild boastfulness). But he looked genuinely confident last night (perhaps a little too much) and clearly in control having grown into the role. He has now given an interview to WLS and was last night was generally more open than I was expecting.
So not perfect, but a work in progress surely? For all the slightly annoying buzz phrases and silly job titles, would many of us really want to go back to an AInsworth/ Hoos/ or even Warnock old school way of doing things? |
I may well be approaching it as a journalist but let’s imagine a scenario where this doesn’t go well and we end up in that third relegation spot. Sheff Wed are fcked but there’s no Paul Warne team coming up from League 1 this year, Birmingham and Wrexham certainly aren’t going down, Charlton are spending money, our team looks ropey to me and Nourry says we’ve got the third lowest budget in the league so… not beyond the realms of possibility.
Suddenly then you’re in League One with clubs like Stockport chucking daft money about. I suspect at that point whether you’re a journalist or not, even the casual fans will want to know how they happened and will be very interested in how long we’re saddled with the players that got us there and how much. How Sam Field justified two new deals in 18 months and how long they’re for, how long we’re stuck with JCS who hasn’t been seen since he got a new deal, why we gave a rumoured three year deal to Frey when he’d shown himself incapable of remaining upright for more than an hour once every three weeks.
I reckon the people on the Central Line might start asking Christian about contracts a bit more in that scenario. |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:37 - Jul 30 with 1883 views | JamesB1979 |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:07 - Jul 30 by Northernr |
I may well be approaching it as a journalist but let’s imagine a scenario where this doesn’t go well and we end up in that third relegation spot. Sheff Wed are fcked but there’s no Paul Warne team coming up from League 1 this year, Birmingham and Wrexham certainly aren’t going down, Charlton are spending money, our team looks ropey to me and Nourry says we’ve got the third lowest budget in the league so… not beyond the realms of possibility.
Suddenly then you’re in League One with clubs like Stockport chucking daft money about. I suspect at that point whether you’re a journalist or not, even the casual fans will want to know how they happened and will be very interested in how long we’re saddled with the players that got us there and how much. How Sam Field justified two new deals in 18 months and how long they’re for, how long we’re stuck with JCS who hasn’t been seen since he got a new deal, why we gave a rumoured three year deal to Frey when he’d shown himself incapable of remaining upright for more than an hour once every three weeks.
I reckon the people on the Central Line might start asking Christian about contracts a bit more in that scenario. |
But does it really matter? If and it is a big IF, the club has made money but not disclosing, surely it’s worth it. Isn’t that more important.
And, I do believe getting the age of the squad down is vital. It’s a fine line between concentrating on long term vs the 1st team today. It is going to be a bumpy ride but I do think it’s the right one an we’ve got to stick with it…..whoever is the CEo and manager. |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:38 - Jul 30 with 1881 views | Northernr |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:37 - Jul 30 by JamesB1979 |
But does it really matter? If and it is a big IF, the club has made money but not disclosing, surely it’s worth it. Isn’t that more important.
And, I do believe getting the age of the squad down is vital. It’s a fine line between concentrating on long term vs the 1st team today. It is going to be a bumpy ride but I do think it’s the right one an we’ve got to stick with it…..whoever is the CEo and manager. |
Yeh, it does. | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:51 - Jul 30 with 1757 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:37 - Jul 30 by JamesB1979 |
But does it really matter? If and it is a big IF, the club has made money but not disclosing, surely it’s worth it. Isn’t that more important.
And, I do believe getting the age of the squad down is vital. It’s a fine line between concentrating on long term vs the 1st team today. It is going to be a bumpy ride but I do think it’s the right one an we’ve got to stick with it…..whoever is the CEo and manager. |
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| Next weeks fans forum on 19:02 - Jul 30 with 1781 views | kensalriser |
The idea the club gains some kind of competitive advantage by not disclosing contract lengths is farcical.
The player knows and the player's agent knows. They're hardly going to keep it secret when it may be contrary to their interests.
Does anyone believe for a nanosecond Charlton didn't know the precise date Kelman's contract was up? |  |
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| Next weeks fans forum on 20:16 - Jul 30 with 1645 views | nix |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:07 - Jul 30 by Northernr |
I may well be approaching it as a journalist but let’s imagine a scenario where this doesn’t go well and we end up in that third relegation spot. Sheff Wed are fcked but there’s no Paul Warne team coming up from League 1 this year, Birmingham and Wrexham certainly aren’t going down, Charlton are spending money, our team looks ropey to me and Nourry says we’ve got the third lowest budget in the league so… not beyond the realms of possibility.
Suddenly then you’re in League One with clubs like Stockport chucking daft money about. I suspect at that point whether you’re a journalist or not, even the casual fans will want to know how they happened and will be very interested in how long we’re saddled with the players that got us there and how much. How Sam Field justified two new deals in 18 months and how long they’re for, how long we’re stuck with JCS who hasn’t been seen since he got a new deal, why we gave a rumoured three year deal to Frey when he’d shown himself incapable of remaining upright for more than an hour once every three weeks.
I reckon the people on the Central Line might start asking Christian about contracts a bit more in that scenario. |
Big if though Clive.
I could equally say what if we got into the play offs for the first time in yonks would we care about knowing contract lengths?
I know mine is more implausible but there are so many imagined scenarios that people are getting furious about it's getting farcical
I get people being irritated but really it seems the main topic on here and every thread reverts to it. It's something but not everything. [Post edited 31 Jul 15:50]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 20:44 - Jul 30 with 1582 views | numptydumpty |
| Next weeks fans forum on 20:16 - Jul 30 by nix |
Big if though Clive.
I could equally say what if we got into the play offs for the first time in yonks would we care about knowing contract lengths?
I know mine is more implausible but there are so many imagined scenarios that people are getting furious about it's getting farcical
I get people being irritated but really it seems the main topic on here and every thread reverts to it. It's something but not everything. [Post edited 31 Jul 15:50]
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Yes agree with you here Nix.
Dave Mcintyre said all rangers fans had issues with not knowing contract lengths etc.
And i know Clive, it's a big frustration for yourself and some fans but definitely not all.
To me it's an irrelevance. If we keep improving and seem to be bringing in value for money players and making decent profits on many of our own players on a consistent basis, i dont mind non disclosure of such things and am sure others feel this.
Thanks for the word for word transcript.
I was pleased in general with what was revealed and think a lot of what was spoken about, seemed very "SENSIBLE" - not a word you often here in connection with our club.
I was convinced by Nourry and had previous concerns but certainly his age is not worrying me now. However, he is as a person, you can't fault his work ethic and definitely has assessed in extreme detail, how we as a club, can succeed and go forwards.
When you compare times under Fernandes, Flavio, Paladini, he has an actual long term plan.
Julien Stephan as a person, sort of work colleague, i think most could get on with and see why he may have had some success with young players developments. Hope he is equally adept with tactics to win games but as a motivator with his laid back style definitely gave off good vibes.
I think Nourry, Williams and de Sousa quite often aĺl of them.said one hundred.words, when ten could have done it and some of the language used.at.times went over my head like am sure it did with others, but i understood the message and the model to be stuck too and did find most of it encouraging.
Was a hard watch though, in that my brain hurts !!! [Post edited 30 Jul 20:47]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 21:02 - Jul 30 with 1554 views | 1JD |
| Next weeks fans forum on 19:02 - Jul 30 by kensalriser |
The idea the club gains some kind of competitive advantage by not disclosing contract lengths is farcical.
The player knows and the player's agent knows. They're hardly going to keep it secret when it may be contrary to their interests.
Does anyone believe for a nanosecond Charlton didn't know the precise date Kelman's contract was up? |
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| Next weeks fans forum on 21:19 - Jul 30 with 1491 views | 1JD |
| Next weeks fans forum on 20:16 - Jul 30 by nix |
Big if though Clive.
I could equally say what if we got into the play offs for the first time in yonks would we care about knowing contract lengths?
I know mine is more implausible but there are so many imagined scenarios that people are getting furious about it's getting farcical
I get people being irritated but really it seems the main topic on here and every thread reverts to it. It's something but not everything. [Post edited 31 Jul 15:50]
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The point is it’s a ridiculous policy, marketed under the guise of “competitive advantage” - a fancy corporate word that bears no resemblance to reality.
Simply ask the agent or the player, as stated by the poster below.
By doubling down on bullshit, it’s continues to garner a complete lack of trust in all words and actions. That’s the core issue for me. | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:28 - Jul 30 with 1476 views | CateLeBonR |
Sorry another one who doesn’t care about contract lengths. I really have tried honest 🤷🏼♂️ |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:34 - Jul 30 with 1465 views | simmo |
| Next weeks fans forum on 19:02 - Jul 30 by kensalriser |
The idea the club gains some kind of competitive advantage by not disclosing contract lengths is farcical.
The player knows and the player's agent knows. They're hardly going to keep it secret when it may be contrary to their interests.
Does anyone believe for a nanosecond Charlton didn't know the precise date Kelman's contract was up? |
This is the whole point. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Considering the club are also not doing typical release/retained lists, etc too, we're going to be at a point soon where every summer we don't know who is still here for the next season.
Are we saying these things are none of our business? Like we don't have a genuine stake in the club and it's key decisions?
Is everyone OK to just sign up for season tickets and wait for the pre season to see who we've still got playing for us? Once again, we're the only ones that won't know - everyone in the game - agents, managers, etc, will have that information. [Post edited 30 Jul 21:41]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 21:38 - Jul 30 with 1455 views | mart_Goblin |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:34 - Jul 30 by simmo |
This is the whole point. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Considering the club are also not doing typical release/retained lists, etc too, we're going to be at a point soon where every summer we don't know who is still here for the next season.
Are we saying these things are none of our business? Like we don't have a genuine stake in the club and it's key decisions?
Is everyone OK to just sign up for season tickets and wait for the pre season to see who we've still got playing for us? Once again, we're the only ones that won't know - everyone in the game - agents, managers, etc, will have that information. [Post edited 30 Jul 21:41]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 22:20 - Jul 30 with 1355 views | A40Bosh |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:34 - Jul 30 by simmo |
This is the whole point. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Considering the club are also not doing typical release/retained lists, etc too, we're going to be at a point soon where every summer we don't know who is still here for the next season.
Are we saying these things are none of our business? Like we don't have a genuine stake in the club and it's key decisions?
Is everyone OK to just sign up for season tickets and wait for the pre season to see who we've still got playing for us? Once again, we're the only ones that won't know - everyone in the game - agents, managers, etc, will have that information. [Post edited 30 Jul 21:41]
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Considering the club are also not doing typical release/retained lists, etc too, we're going to be at a point soon where every summer we don't know who is still here for the next season.
But the only ones that I am aware of who are not confirmed at this point in the window are Fox and Colback. The rest have either been sold (Kerman) or renewed (Dunne).
We suspect that there might be something going on with Varane but if there is it is not finalised and therefore why would they say anything either way - and there is suspicion that Nandi is out of favour - but again it is all heresay and if the club are in negotiations at this point but it is not complete why show your hand only to have egg on your face if it all falls through.
I’m another addict who renews regardless as I am not giving up my legroom seat at the top of the stairs. Doesn’t mean that I am happy clappy about it but invest £600 in to a season ticket and not £1m per month to keep it a float so I don’t expect to call the shots. |  |
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| Next weeks fans forum on 22:23 - Jul 30 with 1340 views | simmo |
You're not getting it, we are only a year into this comms strategy. It's also not about 'calling shots', which is an extreme interpretation of my point.
I'm not talking about making decisions, that's on the board, I'm talking about being informed about key decisions. If you genuinely believe it gives us a competitive advantage then cool. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:26]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 23:00 - Jul 30 with 1285 views | A40Bosh |
| Next weeks fans forum on 22:23 - Jul 30 by simmo |
You're not getting it, we are only a year into this comms strategy. It's also not about 'calling shots', which is an extreme interpretation of my point.
I'm not talking about making decisions, that's on the board, I'm talking about being informed about key decisions. If you genuinely believe it gives us a competitive advantage then cool. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:26]
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Sorry - ‘calling the shots’ was not intended to be a rebuke to your post - my bad - but others do seem to suggest they have a right to demand total transparency of what is effectively a multiple million pound business when that is not the reality.
But putting aside this argument about contract lengths ( which I personally really do not give two hoots about), having worked in middle management in large corporates for 30 years I think they are all the same. Cards close to their chest, paranoid about stuff they don’t want leaked - leaked and sharing intel and updating the troops only when they are ready.
I can’t do anything about it, but I also am too much of an addict to stick 2 fingers up to their lack of transparency and refuse to renew.
I just want to see us win more games but accept that we are in a constant struggle that rich owners cannot simply spend their way out of. [Post edited 30 Jul 23:01]
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| Next weeks fans forum on 23:10 - Jul 30 with 1251 views | Juzzie |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:28 - Jul 30 by CateLeBonR |
Sorry another one who doesn’t care about contract lengths. I really have tried honest 🤷🏼♂️ |
As i get older i’m caring less about all that stuff because now, as well as the last 40 years, there is literally fk all i can do about any of it so why get stressed. Some average Joe player is now on £10k-20k a week for 3-5 years? Lucky fkker.
Going on Saturday with the kids. Will have a bite to eat first, maybe get to the powerleague pitches, get in to the ground, meet up with a mate and about a couple of hours later will be happy or pissed off.
Same as any other game the last forty years (apart from the kids bit as that’s more recent) |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 23:22 - Jul 30 with 1213 views | Stainrod |
| Next weeks fans forum on 20:16 - Jul 30 by nix |
Big if though Clive.
I could equally say what if we got into the play offs for the first time in yonks would we care about knowing contract lengths?
I know mine is more implausible but there are so many imagined scenarios that people are getting furious about it's getting farcical
I get people being irritated but really it seems the main topic on here and every thread reverts to it. It's something but not everything. [Post edited 31 Jul 15:50]
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Precisely, again.
Clive: if we have secretly awarded JCS a 20 year contract then everyone bar perhaps his agent and his mum would agree that is indeed a high risk strategy.
But us knowing about it is not going to impact the length of the contract.
Its just such a repetitive debate.
In American politics they talk about "beltway conversations", that is, debates that are only of interest among a smattering of people who live in the equivalent of the M25; this is the Crown and Sceptre equivalent.
I mentioned there are more important things to discuss: just to toss one out there, touched on tangentially in this thread: Lakarche.
Like him, think he is very good going forwards, but often a liability at his core job of defending. But Nourry (without naming Lakarche) explained the context: we need players established in the first team aged 18-22, with a view to selling them on. So we fans might see Lakarche as an apprentice. But to the high ups, him, Walsh, Alfie etc are actually at last knockings - establish yourself this season as strong Championship players to be sold on, or we are going to blood someone like Akindileni instead, and see if THEY can attract a £3m/£5m offer within a year. Gone, quite rightly, is the approach of Paul Hall who Nix revealed saw his role as a kind of Job Centre for all the nice but sub-optimal lads in our dev squad who will end up playing for Wealdstone while driving a van in the week for Ocado.
Nourry, I suspect, literally doesn't give a sh*t if we finish 9th or 17th, the only metric he really cares about is whether we raise £5m in transfers this season or £15m. Because that, in his view, is what builds a promotion winning team three years on.
He is probably right, even if it wont change my rage on a Saturday afternoon when we lose. But I also think (unlike Nourry, apparently) we are running at least some risk this season of relegation. Which is where I do agree with you.
So that to me is the massive gamble in the club's strategy: short term sacrifice for potential long term gain.
That's the story; demanding to know contract lengths is the footnote on page 104, the stuff of folk who put in FoI requests - worthy, maybe even public spirited, but not entirely fascinating.
I say this not to criticise, because most weeks you come up with insights and comedic corkers that helps me come to terms with the affliction that is supporting QPR. | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 02:05 - Jul 31 with 1122 views | Mr_Beef |
| Next weeks fans forum on 22:23 - Jul 30 by simmo |
You're not getting it, we are only a year into this comms strategy. It's also not about 'calling shots', which is an extreme interpretation of my point.
I'm not talking about making decisions, that's on the board, I'm talking about being informed about key decisions. If you genuinely believe it gives us a competitive advantage then cool. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:26]
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Completely agree. There is no competitive advantage here. If a player or his agent want a move they'll let interested clubs know exactly what's left.
So if it's not for competitive advantage, then why are the club not announcing contract lengths in the same way that pretty much every other club does?
For me, it's hard to see this as anything other than a way of avoiding scrutiny. It's all very well talking about your strategy of bringing young players through, no arguments there, but if it at the same time you are handing out a three year contract to Frey, as has been suggested elsewhere, then your overall strategy is open to question.
And that's just it, we don't know. Supporters of other clubs are able to get a more rounded view of how their clubs are run because this information is out there. But for us, it's surpressed. And given how our club has been run over the years, that's the concern for me. |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 13:45 - Jul 31 with 811 views | francisbowles |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:06 - Jul 30 by Stainrod |
Brilliant post, agree with every word (except perhaps Smyth being a first team starter, would prefer Dembele there and Chair central) but your main points absolutely right IMHO. |
Sorry Stainrod down voted in error. Should have been a + | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 15:48 - Jul 31 with 699 views | nix |
| Next weeks fans forum on 23:22 - Jul 30 by Stainrod |
Precisely, again.
Clive: if we have secretly awarded JCS a 20 year contract then everyone bar perhaps his agent and his mum would agree that is indeed a high risk strategy.
But us knowing about it is not going to impact the length of the contract.
Its just such a repetitive debate.
In American politics they talk about "beltway conversations", that is, debates that are only of interest among a smattering of people who live in the equivalent of the M25; this is the Crown and Sceptre equivalent.
I mentioned there are more important things to discuss: just to toss one out there, touched on tangentially in this thread: Lakarche.
Like him, think he is very good going forwards, but often a liability at his core job of defending. But Nourry (without naming Lakarche) explained the context: we need players established in the first team aged 18-22, with a view to selling them on. So we fans might see Lakarche as an apprentice. But to the high ups, him, Walsh, Alfie etc are actually at last knockings - establish yourself this season as strong Championship players to be sold on, or we are going to blood someone like Akindileni instead, and see if THEY can attract a £3m/£5m offer within a year. Gone, quite rightly, is the approach of Paul Hall who Nix revealed saw his role as a kind of Job Centre for all the nice but sub-optimal lads in our dev squad who will end up playing for Wealdstone while driving a van in the week for Ocado.
Nourry, I suspect, literally doesn't give a sh*t if we finish 9th or 17th, the only metric he really cares about is whether we raise £5m in transfers this season or £15m. Because that, in his view, is what builds a promotion winning team three years on.
He is probably right, even if it wont change my rage on a Saturday afternoon when we lose. But I also think (unlike Nourry, apparently) we are running at least some risk this season of relegation. Which is where I do agree with you.
So that to me is the massive gamble in the club's strategy: short term sacrifice for potential long term gain.
That's the story; demanding to know contract lengths is the footnote on page 104, the stuff of folk who put in FoI requests - worthy, maybe even public spirited, but not entirely fascinating.
I say this not to criticise, because most weeks you come up with insights and comedic corkers that helps me come to terms with the affliction that is supporting QPR. |
Yes I agree. Far more worthy of discussion than contract lengths which has been done to death, been buried and had a gravestone put up and it still says nothing about where we're going to end up this season or over the next three years.
It's a gamble putting all your chips on players who will/won't come good. But it does seem the only viable long term strategy. Have we got enough established players in the squad to pull us through this season? Will loans be a fig leaf? The next few weeks could be very interesting. | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:05 - Aug 1 with 441 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Next weeks fans forum on 15:48 - Jul 31 by nix |
Yes I agree. Far more worthy of discussion than contract lengths which has been done to death, been buried and had a gravestone put up and it still says nothing about where we're going to end up this season or over the next three years.
It's a gamble putting all your chips on players who will/won't come good. But it does seem the only viable long term strategy. Have we got enough established players in the squad to pull us through this season? Will loans be a fig leaf? The next few weeks could be very interesting. |
I'm hoping for a LB and a striker to come in on loan, but I am worried that Nourry only wants Loans that 'benefit' QPR, which I take to mean build a relationship with the parent club "Yang" or come with a buy out at the end (not like Taylor though).
So, I don't foresee any loans in like Hayden, who are just drawing a salary and don't have a chance of signing afterwards.
But, what do i know? |  | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:43 - Aug 1 with 373 views | Stainrod |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:05 - Aug 1 by nick_hammersmith |
I'm hoping for a LB and a striker to come in on loan, but I am worried that Nourry only wants Loans that 'benefit' QPR, which I take to mean build a relationship with the parent club "Yang" or come with a buy out at the end (not like Taylor though).
So, I don't foresee any loans in like Hayden, who are just drawing a salary and don't have a chance of signing afterwards.
But, what do i know? |
Yes to the Nourry strategy even a really good player coming on loan for free is a negative because it blocks one of 11 slots the club has each week to develop one of its assets ("assets" being what Nourry views them as, more than players).
If he is being consistent (and he did say consistency was what would mark us out from other clubs) then I would assume we would only take a loan or sign an older player as absolute emergency to avoid relegation (like Edwards last season). | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:47 - Aug 1 with 366 views | Beejnewark |
| Next weeks fans forum on 12:43 - Aug 1 by Stainrod |
Yes to the Nourry strategy even a really good player coming on loan for free is a negative because it blocks one of 11 slots the club has each week to develop one of its assets ("assets" being what Nourry views them as, more than players).
If he is being consistent (and he did say consistency was what would mark us out from other clubs) then I would assume we would only take a loan or sign an older player as absolute emergency to avoid relegation (like Edwards last season). |
or loans with options/obligations.. | | | |
| Next weeks fans forum on 13:32 - Aug 1 with 262 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Next weeks fans forum on 21:19 - Jul 30 by 1JD |
The point is it’s a ridiculous policy, marketed under the guise of “competitive advantage” - a fancy corporate word that bears no resemblance to reality.
Simply ask the agent or the player, as stated by the poster below.
By doubling down on bullshit, it’s continues to garner a complete lack of trust in all words and actions. That’s the core issue for me. |
I find this point of view interesting as there is no evidence whatsoever that not announcing contract lengths is 'bullshit'. Yet several posters on here keep repeating this with no knowledge.
By not announcing the length of contract it is not in the public domain. Therefore, it makes it harder for other clubs to track our players and put low bids in if a contract is being rundown. If a club does know then an illegal approach must have been made to either player or agent. QPR can then sanction the player or complain to the league.
I'm not saying the above is fact, but it seems the most likely explanation. I'm pretty sure the club isn't deliberately trying to create a lack of trust with some fans.
And if it does give us a competitive advantage then good on Nourry for doing it. | |
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| Next weeks fans forum on 13:55 - Aug 1 with 206 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Next weeks fans forum on 18:07 - Jul 30 by Northernr |
I may well be approaching it as a journalist but let’s imagine a scenario where this doesn’t go well and we end up in that third relegation spot. Sheff Wed are fcked but there’s no Paul Warne team coming up from League 1 this year, Birmingham and Wrexham certainly aren’t going down, Charlton are spending money, our team looks ropey to me and Nourry says we’ve got the third lowest budget in the league so… not beyond the realms of possibility.
Suddenly then you’re in League One with clubs like Stockport chucking daft money about. I suspect at that point whether you’re a journalist or not, even the casual fans will want to know how they happened and will be very interested in how long we’re saddled with the players that got us there and how much. How Sam Field justified two new deals in 18 months and how long they’re for, how long we’re stuck with JCS who hasn’t been seen since he got a new deal, why we gave a rumoured three year deal to Frey when he’d shown himself incapable of remaining upright for more than an hour once every three weeks.
I reckon the people on the Central Line might start asking Christian about contracts a bit more in that scenario. |
Which is basically just to say 'the proof of the pudding', I guess. To continue the culinary metaphor, if it goes tits up, everyone (at every club) ends up with egg on their faces. Nourry, Julien and any CEO/maanger can talk a good game all they like, but in the end it's how the players perform on the pitch. | |
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