| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 18:42 - Aug 9 with 8717 views | connell10 |
Absolutely abysmal performance, the most effort he put in was to run off the pitch when he got subbed! |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 05:55 - Aug 10 with 1615 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 05:21 - Aug 10 by Tonto |
To answer the OP's question
He is the boo boy. He can do nothing right unless he scored a hat trick and even then someone will criticise him for not passing the ball for the 3rd |
To be fair Tonto, Chair was in a far better position when Celar got the ball.
And yes, I know he dribbled past three defenders. I know the ball bobbled requiring him to bicycle kick it in from 30 yards out. I know their keeper and manager said it was the best goal they'd ever seen, but the ball through to Chair has been shown by the LFW analytics team to have been 39.6% more likely to result in a goal.
However, Celar's second goal was even better then his fourth last week; which was class personified. |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 08:09 - Aug 10 with 1458 views | stevec |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 21:31 - Aug 9 by connell10 |
He kinda falls over claims a freekick and the ball just falls to Chair , not a lot of skill involved mate to be honest 😉 |
It’s got to the point where if he stumbles over and the knock on gets picked up by a player of ours, we think we’ve got a bona fide CF on our hands, that’s how far we’ve sunk.
Was watching crosses, largely from Kofu, in behind defences, pulled back into space in the centre and all I could think is where the fck is the forward.
He has this inate ability to be in the wrong place at the right time. I’d sell him to Birmingham whilst we can. |  | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 08:32 - Aug 10 with 1414 views | Watford_Ranger |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 05:21 - Aug 10 by Tonto |
To answer the OP's question
He is the boo boy. He can do nothing right unless he scored a hat trick and even then someone will criticise him for not passing the ball for the 3rd |
I don’t think that’s fair in this instance. He was given a lot of time by fans last season through a string of pretty nothing performances. It’s arguably the most important position in the team and given a start again against what will probably be one of the poorer sides contributed very little.
Not that that means the other options are the answer but I’d have more faith in them due to sheer mobility alone. |  | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:09 - Aug 10 with 1345 views | Burnleyhoop |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 21:06 - Aug 9 by Watford_Ranger |
Actually think an instinct for goal is all he does have. With perfect service which no team in this league will give you let alone us he probably would score plenty.
But football now doesn’t have strikers like that. He offers so, so painfully little outside the box. Seems so easy to play against and allows defences to push up on us because he’s slower than rust. The strength of this team, if they’re fit and two have now exploded already, is the three behind the striker. With Burrell Preston were forced back a bit and it got us up the pitch and gave those guys a bit more space to play. |
And that’s the rub for this team, our midgets are going to be our danger men this season and the source of most of our goals. Our striker needs to work the opposing back four to provide them with the time and space to operate in, whilst also having the pace to run the channels in behind the defenders from through balls.
Celar will never fit into this teams profile because he simply cannot run. He hasn’t got the legs for pressing or the speed to run the channels. It would seem, from what little evidence he has shown, that he can finish in or around the box. No evidence yet of any aerial ability either.
He simply doesn’t fit our profile of players recruited or perceived playing style. Burrell at least gave the defenders something to think about when he came on, in much the same way Alfie Lloyd used to, but I suspect he has more to his game than Alfie currently does, hence the loan.
When Frey and Burrell are fit, Celar needs to be moved on. Simply not the right type of player for us or this league. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:24 - Aug 10 with 1311 views | Watford_Ranger |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 08:09 - Aug 10 by stevec |
It’s got to the point where if he stumbles over and the knock on gets picked up by a player of ours, we think we’ve got a bona fide CF on our hands, that’s how far we’ve sunk.
Was watching crosses, largely from Kofu, in behind defences, pulled back into space in the centre and all I could think is where the fck is the forward.
He has this inate ability to be in the wrong place at the right time. I’d sell him to Birmingham whilst we can. |
I’m going to start calling him Kofu from now on.
Chim chim cheroo
Who needs Mbappe when we’ve got Kofu | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 (n/t) on 09:26 - Aug 10 with 1301 views | gazza1 |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:27 - Aug 10 with 1304 views | colinallcars |
The chances of Celar & Madsen coming good are about the same as me saying Sister Suzie's Sewing Shirts for Soldiers after 7 pints of ESB. |  | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:28 - Aug 10 with 1297 views | gazza1 |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 23:47 - Aug 9 by BazzaInTheLoft |
‘Celar is not and will never be good enough to represent QPR in the Championship.....why so many posters see it differently is because they do not understand the game property‘
What qualifications you got to be able speak to people like this gazza? |
By just reading some of the comments made by posters.....it is not too difficult to see!!!! | | | |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:33 - Aug 10 with 1281 views | gazza1 |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 22:31 - Aug 9 by LazyFan |
His job was to hold the ball up and hassle the defence.
He failed to hold onto the ball enough, he did manage the lay off which led to the goal and I think he meant it, but I notice that Celar was allowed to the ball first and it just happened to be directly at him.
If he has to move to come onto the ball with his back to goal he cannot do it. He's more of a diagonal pass in front of him, player who then hits it. But we don't play that way and neither do most teams in the Champ.
He's just not good enough, and this idea that he would crack on now is unrealistic. Look who he scored against last season, Cardiff and their defence is gash.
Madsen and he were terrible today. They only looked passable and only at times, as it was PNE.
We now know which three teams are worse than us. Sheff Wed, PNE and Oxford. On the bright side, PNE could go down this season and then be gone for good like Reading. |
His job is to score goals!!!!!! Never looked like it yesterday.
As for your comments re Madsen, he played a big part in our good performance in the first half!!!! Second half, like many of the side steuggled. But hey, blame Madsen, Colback not here any more so you got to have somebody to 'rumble'!!! | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 10:38 - Aug 10 with 1153 views | QPunkR |
It's well known that I don't rate Celar, given his woeful goalscoring record and abject performances last season, and he wasn't great again yesterday - but he also wasn't abysmal. I think he was more involved than at times last season and did (by hook or by crook) manage to lay off that ball to Chair - though all else he contributed was falling over a couple of other times.
In short, I think people's current frustration at him wasn't borne specifically from annoyance at yesterday's performance, but of frustration carried over from last season |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 10:52 - Aug 10 with 1127 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
Washington used to drive me mad. Ran around like a headless chicken but rarely in a position to score. This guy is worse. Nothing to do with being the boo-boy or scapegoat. Strikers are there to score goals. Assists are nice, but how many of those does he have? | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 10:55 - Aug 10 with 1118 views | gazza1 |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 10:38 - Aug 10 by QPunkR |
It's well known that I don't rate Celar, given his woeful goalscoring record and abject performances last season, and he wasn't great again yesterday - but he also wasn't abysmal. I think he was more involved than at times last season and did (by hook or by crook) manage to lay off that ball to Chair - though all else he contributed was falling over a couple of other times.
In short, I think people's current frustration at him wasn't borne specifically from annoyance at yesterday's performance, but of frustration carried over from last season |
Nope, he is very poor......I judge on the performance not past ones.
Example is that Morgan who is not my favourite player, very overated becuase of a couple of decent performances last season including a nicely taken goal but overal gives the ball away far too much. Yesterday, I was shocked to see him at RB and thought wtf but......'fair play' to him he was good in the first half, like many players and did not look out of place.
All this 'slagging' of Madsen yesterday is totally wrong and very unfair.....he was very good first half playing some very educated balls and working well in midfield supporting defensively with Field and also providing good attacking forward thinking passes. Like many of the players, he was not as good as many of the players but still managed 90 minutes.
Celar was very average all the match and Burrell was more of a threat when he came on. [Post edited 10 Aug 10:58]
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 10:58 - Aug 10 with 1110 views | kensalriser |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:24 - Aug 10 by Watford_Ranger |
I’m going to start calling him Kofu from now on.
Chim chim cheroo
Who needs Mbappe when we’ve got Kofu |
Kofu’s great. I think I may even prefer it to Esquadinha. |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 11:18 - Aug 10 with 1060 views | stevec |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:24 - Aug 10 by Watford_Ranger |
I’m going to start calling him Kofu from now on.
Chim chim cheroo
Who needs Mbappe when we’ve got Kofu |
You should have seen me when he brought all those subs on at once, I didn’t have a clue who was who and who’s still on the pitch.
It didn’t help that my son wasn’t there and I’ve gone deaf in one ear over the summer. It’s weird, I can barely hear the Loft end but to my right I can hear conversations in detail a good 10 seats away from me.
Off to the doctor this week. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 11:44 - Aug 10 with 985 views | NW5Hoop |
I thought Celar was often very bright yesterday, but lots of people don't want to see it. There was a header he won in the first half that had everyone around me groaning because they wanted him to flick it on, I guess, into nowhere. Instead it was a perfect cushioned header for Chair to run onto and put the ball behind their defence. There was a disguised backheel in the second half that did the same thing – put us in behind the defence. He was not good last season, at all. But he did well in the first half yesterday. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 11:47 - Aug 10 with 975 views | LazyFan |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 09:33 - Aug 10 by gazza1 |
His job is to score goals!!!!!! Never looked like it yesterday.
As for your comments re Madsen, he played a big part in our good performance in the first half!!!! Second half, like many of the side steuggled. But hey, blame Madsen, Colback not here any more so you got to have somebody to 'rumble'!!! |
If Celar's job is to score goals, then how come, as others have pointed out, he's not even in the box for Poku's crosses when they come in?
I am okay if he does not score goals, but he has to contribute in other ways, like holding up the ball, which he did do for the OG. But that was a rare occurance; most of the time, he lost it. So, he was not even an outlet. Which we saw hurt us hard once PNE wised up in the second half.
As for Madsen, I was one of the earliest people to criticise him, long before I was onto Colback. Madsen just does not run, which is why the manager put him at the back. The problem is he did not even do that well, as Field had to cover him a lot in that as well.
Field was MOM yesterday, saving us several times in defence. He also came close to scoring on several occasions, but as we know, that's not his strong point. But it does point out where Field can get up and down the pitch, Madsen is nowhere to be seen. Sure Madsen can pass and can hold onto the ball and rarely gives the ball away in 5 yard passes. He has the skill, just not the desire to get up and down the pitch which in the Champ is required. Colback is the same, but Colback didn't cost us £4m and is no longer at the club. |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 12:01 - Aug 10 with 923 views | kensalriser |
Blimey, is Madsen's fee up to £4m now? Is that inflation adjusted? | |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 13:34 - Aug 10 with 815 views | R_from_afar |
I acknowledge that he has underperformed so far but yesterday was Celar's first competitive game under a new manager and marked his return after a long lay-off which a pretty serious injury. Let's give the guy a chance, please 🙏. |  |
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 13:40 - Aug 10 with 810 views | 7374Ranger |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 19:11 - Aug 9 by aston_hoop |
Burrell chased some defenders and was effective with that, didn't see anything from him in terms of link up play. Celar is not much of a presser but his link up play was very good, some lovely touches including one that directly led to our goal. Different players, playing different roles. Celar absolutely wasn't the issue today. |
I noted that move and suggested writing that up in the diary as a 1st for Celar. He wasn't good at challenging for the ball or harassing the CBs and his first touch in the box was also poor.
He is certainly not the man for a lone striker role, but might just be better in a 2 man forward line. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 13:56 - Aug 10 with 781 views | gazza1 |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 11:47 - Aug 10 by LazyFan |
If Celar's job is to score goals, then how come, as others have pointed out, he's not even in the box for Poku's crosses when they come in?
I am okay if he does not score goals, but he has to contribute in other ways, like holding up the ball, which he did do for the OG. But that was a rare occurance; most of the time, he lost it. So, he was not even an outlet. Which we saw hurt us hard once PNE wised up in the second half.
As for Madsen, I was one of the earliest people to criticise him, long before I was onto Colback. Madsen just does not run, which is why the manager put him at the back. The problem is he did not even do that well, as Field had to cover him a lot in that as well.
Field was MOM yesterday, saving us several times in defence. He also came close to scoring on several occasions, but as we know, that's not his strong point. But it does point out where Field can get up and down the pitch, Madsen is nowhere to be seen. Sure Madsen can pass and can hold onto the ball and rarely gives the ball away in 5 yard passes. He has the skill, just not the desire to get up and down the pitch which in the Champ is required. Colback is the same, but Colback didn't cost us £4m and is no longer at the club. |
Celar is a CF and his job is to score goals, he doesn't so he is failing. Anyone who thinks differently just does not understand what a CF role is, there are very few exceptions and Celar is not one of them!!! Yes he has other jobs to do but his key is scoring goals. He doesn't score enough goals per game. I agree with your statement 'he's not even in the box, blah blah, blah'............another key job for a CF!!!! I am far from 'ok' if he does not score goals.
As for Madsen, done decent first half and put a shift in.....look at the first half in replay and just watch what 'he' does, how 'he' passes the ball, how 'he' shows for the ball, how 'he' works. Agreed he is not a Field but he has good attributes which posters like you do not see. Another stupid comment, Madsen just does not run, which is why the manager put him at the back' - really!!!! Same with Colback who is very decent player indeed but, again, you would not notice because he is busy working for the Team.
As for Field, his forward play is pretty atrocious, I think 3 times near or in the box he 'fumbled',,,,,,but hey you dont see that either. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:11 - Aug 10 with 739 views | hantssi |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 11:47 - Aug 10 by LazyFan |
If Celar's job is to score goals, then how come, as others have pointed out, he's not even in the box for Poku's crosses when they come in?
I am okay if he does not score goals, but he has to contribute in other ways, like holding up the ball, which he did do for the OG. But that was a rare occurance; most of the time, he lost it. So, he was not even an outlet. Which we saw hurt us hard once PNE wised up in the second half.
As for Madsen, I was one of the earliest people to criticise him, long before I was onto Colback. Madsen just does not run, which is why the manager put him at the back. The problem is he did not even do that well, as Field had to cover him a lot in that as well.
Field was MOM yesterday, saving us several times in defence. He also came close to scoring on several occasions, but as we know, that's not his strong point. But it does point out where Field can get up and down the pitch, Madsen is nowhere to be seen. Sure Madsen can pass and can hold onto the ball and rarely gives the ball away in 5 yard passes. He has the skill, just not the desire to get up and down the pitch which in the Champ is required. Colback is the same, but Colback didn't cost us £4m and is no longer at the club. |
Don’t let WWC hear you say that about Field! 😂 | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:12 - Aug 10 with 736 views | Pindarus |
Much prefer Celar to the lumpen lummox frey who has no ball skills whatsoever and is only fit enough to play once a fortnight. | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:25 - Aug 10 with 697 views | WestbourneR |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:12 - Aug 10 by Pindarus |
Much prefer Celar to the lumpen lummox frey who has no ball skills whatsoever and is only fit enough to play once a fortnight. |
You prefer Celar to Frey??? Really? Why?
So you don’t value goals or work rate or winning headers
You just prefer some misplaced aesthetic
I can’t see that as anything other than completely moronic [Post edited 10 Aug 16:18]
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| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:26 - Aug 10 with 687 views | priceyparkrangers |
A standard 5/10 performance
A lot of people just want to slate the guy because of last season, nothing to do with yesterday
He had some nice touches, almost won a penalty or two, but equally was slow to react in the box and looked a little laboured | | | |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 15:50 - Aug 10 with 590 views | Damo1962 |
| If Celar is the answer what's the question 🤔 on 14:26 - Aug 10 by priceyparkrangers |
A standard 5/10 performance
A lot of people just want to slate the guy because of last season, nothing to do with yesterday
He had some nice touches, almost won a penalty or two, but equally was slow to react in the box and looked a little laboured |
I only saw the second half, so won't comment on what Celar did or didn't do first half. Second half,I didn't even know he was still on the pitch until he was subbed. In his defence...most of the rest of the team went missing too. Unless Burell comes good...do we even have a fit decent striker for this level at the club? | | | |
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