| Dembele 15:02 - Oct 2 with 10760 views | dmm |
What do we do with Dembele? I was excited when he came but now, not so much. We know he's got talent but we also know he has real weaknesses. He's not been helped by his stop/start time at QPR so far, partly through injury but also through a lack of form. And I can't help feel he's not a happy lad right now.
He's only 22 and needs games to develop. If we're to see him realise his potential, we'll have to give him a run in the side sooner or later. Either that or move him on. |  | | |  |
| Dembele on 11:44 - Oct 3 with 2710 views | Benny_the_Ball |
There's undoubted natural talent there but he's not applying it in he right way. Simple things too. For example, I lost count of the number of times in the first half against Oxford that Kone was collecting the ball on the right wing and Dembele was strolling through the middle. I want our striker in the box and our winger on the wing. With Julien's reputation for developing players, hopefully he can coach some game smarts into him. |  | | |
| Dembele on 13:05 - Oct 3 with 2584 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Dembele on 11:44 - Oct 3 by Benny_the_Ball |
There's undoubted natural talent there but he's not applying it in he right way. Simple things too. For example, I lost count of the number of times in the first half against Oxford that Kone was collecting the ball on the right wing and Dembele was strolling through the middle. I want our striker in the box and our winger on the wing. With Julien's reputation for developing players, hopefully he can coach some game smarts into him. |
Multiple times in the last 2 times Kone was way out of position collecting the ball then looking up and having nobody to pass/cross to and trying to do it all himself.
He looks a bit frustrated these last couple of starts either because he has hit a bit of a dip in form or nobody is delivering the correct ball to him.
Back in the middle battering defenders Saturday please |  | | |
| Dembele on 13:13 - Oct 3 with 2580 views | Pindarus |
I thought that having 2 strikers was meant to give one of them licence to roam. If Kone was out on the wing and found he had noone to deliver the ball to, where was his fellow striker? |  | | |
| Dembele on 13:35 - Oct 3 with 2495 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Yes, he's a strange one. Looked amazing when he first signed, then got injured and was underwhelming after that. Then looked good in pre-season but has ended up on the bench. Hopefully, having competition from the likes of Poku and Saito will motivate him as he undoubtedly has talent. | | | |
| Dembele on 14:05 - Oct 3 with 2449 views | strikerace |
Has talent, but a very frustrating player. For every nice pass he has 2 passes to the other team. Also very weak on defending. Really at this point he is a specialized impact sub, to come on when you are behind and looking to catch lightning in a bottle | | | |
| Dembele on 17:31 - Oct 3 with 2325 views | charmr |
I think Dembele has all the potential to be as good as Dave Thomas or Wayne Fereday. | | | |
| Dembele on 18:39 - Oct 3 with 2237 views | Loft1979 |
My opinion. With Poku coming in with Kone and Saito he is surplus. Hopefully, he has a good market and can fetch a fee. Ultimately I see Saito and Poku filling the same role with more upside. |  | | |
| Dembele on 21:27 - Oct 3 with 2138 views | FDC |
| Dembele on 18:39 - Oct 3 by Loft1979 |
My opinion. With Poku coming in with Kone and Saito he is surplus. Hopefully, he has a good market and can fetch a fee. Ultimately I see Saito and Poku filling the same role with more upside. |
Poku looked great in preseason, but in reality we haven't actually seen him properly yet.
Dembele hadn't played at this level before signing, and hasnt really had a proper run in the team. He's been frustrating at times but he's still young and it could yet click for him. Hopefully Stéphan is the right manager to be working with him. |  | | |
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| Dembele on 00:35 - Oct 4 with 2030 views | numptydumpty |
| Dembele on 21:27 - Oct 3 by FDC |
Poku looked great in preseason, but in reality we haven't actually seen him properly yet.
Dembele hadn't played at this level before signing, and hasnt really had a proper run in the team. He's been frustrating at times but he's still young and it could yet click for him. Hopefully Stéphan is the right manager to be working with him. |
He is clearly a talent.
His first half of his first game, i thought wow, how is this boy at QPR.
Sadly, the high point of his QPR career so far.
i think maybe he is a player that needs a bit of love.
Pre season he was our best performer. Some great strikes but he seems to be underwhelmed with his goal celebrations. And he is a player who is not in the game often.
For me, i see very much Chris Willock vibes, but he has yet to have any regular periods of brilliance as yet. i know i shouldn't say this as he is a young player still, but i dont think he will achieve what he should and even if he does have some qualities, its not happening here.
For me, Saito, Vale, Chair ahead of him currently. Smyth has more impact and Kolli will be more of a success in the future than Dembele.
What i would say is Dembele has the potential to be the best baller of all of these, which after my previous assessment is nuts.
Am aware Madsen currently has turned things around but you could almost see he was angry with himself and knew he could do much better. i dont see this with Dembele because he doesnt seem to want it enough...
It appears he loses interest in games like he would prefer to be somewhere else. Think he is a player that needs a lot of management to keep focussed.
Hope he proves me wrong, because i cant see it happening with this boy. [Post edited 4 Oct 0:42]
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| Dembele on 13:22 - Oct 4 with 1769 views | paulparker |
If the idea is to play a modified 4-4-2 then I don’t see how he gets in the team , we have Smyth , Koki, Vale , Poku who play wide and are much better wingers than him, Dembele is more of a “10”
It was noticeable the lack of service Kone & Frey got the other night , Kone especially was getting the hump |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Dembele on 13:27 - Oct 4 with 1752 views | Pindarus |
| Dembele on 13:22 - Oct 4 by paulparker |
If the idea is to play a modified 4-4-2 then I don’t see how he gets in the team , we have Smyth , Koki, Vale , Poku who play wide and are much better wingers than him, Dembele is more of a “10”
It was noticeable the lack of service Kone & Frey got the other night , Kone especially was getting the hump |
I thought Frey would be more likely to get the hump as he performs like a camel. | | | |
| Dembele on 13:29 - Oct 4 with 1739 views | JamesB1979 |
He can look really good and dynamic. But he drifts in and out of games. That would be fine but I don’t think you can start him away from home and live with his defensive weaknesses. | | | |
| Dembele on 13:59 - Oct 4 with 1657 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Dembele on 13:29 - Oct 4 by JamesB1979 |
He can look really good and dynamic. But he drifts in and out of games. That would be fine but I don’t think you can start him away from home and live with his defensive weaknesses. |
You were saying........ look who's playing at Bristol! | |
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| Dembele on 14:48 - Oct 4 with 1593 views | JamesB1979 |
| Dembele on 13:59 - Oct 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
You were saying........ look who's playing at Bristol! |
Yeah but I don’t pick the side to be fair! | | | |
| Dembele on 15:56 - Oct 4 with 1522 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Dembele on 13:29 - Oct 4 by JamesB1979 |
He can look really good and dynamic. But he drifts in and out of games. That would be fine but I don’t think you can start him away from home and live with his defensive weaknesses. |
Rather have him drifting out of games than into them to mess up five yard passes. We all know Smyth’s weaknesses but away from home you’d think he’d be the better fit today. Prove me wrong second half Kaddy. | | | |
| Dembele on 17:04 - Oct 4 with 1399 views | Lblock |
A loan somewhere beckons in January I think.
Gets worse every passing week and todays changes really highlighted how he weakens us, especially away from home |  |
| Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal |
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| Dembele on 17:09 - Oct 4 with 1385 views | swisscottage |
| Dembele on 17:04 - Oct 4 by Lblock |
A loan somewhere beckons in January I think.
Gets worse every passing week and todays changes really highlighted how he weakens us, especially away from home |
He's finding it tough, there's no doubt, but I think there's better to come from him, and its far too early to write him off.
He does need to put on about half a stone of muscle if he's going to have a chance in this league though.
He's got a limited window to make a case, because when Chair and Poku come back, I can't see him getting a look in unless he shows that improvement beforehand. | | | |
| Dembele on 17:15 - Oct 4 with 1319 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Dembele on 17:09 - Oct 4 by swisscottage |
He's finding it tough, there's no doubt, but I think there's better to come from him, and its far too early to write him off.
He does need to put on about half a stone of muscle if he's going to have a chance in this league though.
He's got a limited window to make a case, because when Chair and Poku come back, I can't see him getting a look in unless he shows that improvement beforehand. |
Well that ship has sailed, as Chair and Poku are back after the international break.
Poor yet again today, but no longer surprised. | |
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| Dembele on 17:25 - Oct 4 with 1274 views | ed_83 |
I get why people are frustrated, and he clearly hasn't been playing brilliantly, but come on.
He's 22, he's only recently come back from injury, we've paid a fee for him, and he's shown both here and elsewhere that he's got the raw ability and potential to be a really good player, even if he's not been showing enough of that recently.
The only thing we as a club should be doing is continuing to work with him, coaching him, and giving him plenty of opportunities to develop. All of our players are going to have ups and downs: if they were consistently brilliant they wouldn't be playing here.
Maybe taking him out of the starting lineup for a bit might be smart, given his form's dipped, but there's no way we should be giving up on him. Supporting QPR surely means supporting the players too, even when they're clearly not playing well, rather than deciding they're never going to make it and writing them off. | | | |
| Dembele on 18:02 - Oct 4 with 1169 views | hoops_legend |
| Dembele on 17:25 - Oct 4 by ed_83 |
I get why people are frustrated, and he clearly hasn't been playing brilliantly, but come on.
He's 22, he's only recently come back from injury, we've paid a fee for him, and he's shown both here and elsewhere that he's got the raw ability and potential to be a really good player, even if he's not been showing enough of that recently.
The only thing we as a club should be doing is continuing to work with him, coaching him, and giving him plenty of opportunities to develop. All of our players are going to have ups and downs: if they were consistently brilliant they wouldn't be playing here.
Maybe taking him out of the starting lineup for a bit might be smart, given his form's dipped, but there's no way we should be giving up on him. Supporting QPR surely means supporting the players too, even when they're clearly not playing well, rather than deciding they're never going to make it and writing them off. |
Let’s not give up on a great little player with so much potential
Seems to like us as well
We are too quick to say something’s wrong when in reality we need to encourage and see future potential |  |
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| Dembele on 18:04 - Oct 4 with 1155 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Dembele on 18:02 - Oct 4 by hoops_legend |
Let’s not give up on a great little player with so much potential
Seems to like us as well
We are too quick to say something’s wrong when in reality we need to encourage and see future potential |
We need to use him as an impact player from subs bench, he just does not yet have the physicality in this league. He is a decent player, but for me not a starter. Be interesting to see what happens when Pokku is vying for a place when he is fit. |  | | |
| Dembele on 18:17 - Oct 4 with 1112 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Dembele on 18:02 - Oct 4 by hoops_legend |
Let’s not give up on a great little player with so much potential
Seems to like us as well
We are too quick to say something’s wrong when in reality we need to encourage and see future potential |
That's fine, but the player has to actually want to play. Watch Dembele seconds before he is subbed off, just allows a City player to waltz past him. A cursory effort to stop him by sticking a leg out.
Get your bloody body in the way. Pathetic, but thankfully won't be anywhere near this team when Chair and Poku are back. | |
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| Dembele on 18:23 - Oct 4 with 1089 views | BrianMcCarthy |
It was great having a high camera angle today. Could see so much more of the pitch. Bonus!
One of the things that stood out was just how much Dunne was talking Dembélé through the game - where to stand, where to double-up, where to overlap.
On the negative side, he's 22 and has played nearly 100 games. Should he need that amount of instruction?
On the plus side, what if he learns? Add that learning to his talent, and we could really have something! |  |
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| Dembele on 18:29 - Oct 4 with 1026 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Dembele on 18:17 - Oct 4 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
That's fine, but the player has to actually want to play. Watch Dembele seconds before he is subbed off, just allows a City player to waltz past him. A cursory effort to stop him by sticking a leg out.
Get your bloody body in the way. Pathetic, but thankfully won't be anywhere near this team when Chair and Poku are back. |
This all smacks of the vitriol that was aimed at Madsen for so long. Why not look to support a player who is struggling a bit rather than hang him out?
This isn't directed at you, but all the fans who only appear to be looking for a scapegoat. |  |
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| Dembele on 18:36 - Oct 4 with 981 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Dembele on 18:29 - Oct 4 by Esox_Lucius |
This all smacks of the vitriol that was aimed at Madsen for so long. Why not look to support a player who is struggling a bit rather than hang him out?
This isn't directed at you, but all the fans who only appear to be looking for a scapegoat. |
Fans identifying a problem is making him a scapegoat its fans disecting the result. Using what they seen with their own eyes to pass judgement.
Dembele is a passenger at the moment, lets not cover it up either then.
Not a scapegoat, but needs to do better. That ok? [Post edited 4 Oct 18:36]
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