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The entitlement of England football fans always amazes me. What the bloody hell even is the England football team? There's nothing on earth comparable to it. We're not particularly good at football inherently as a nation and we never really have been.
Sir Gareth Southgate was cast aside after pivoting Hodgson's Iceland debacle into a World Cup semi final, two Euros finals and another World Cup quarter final. He didn't have the tactics apparently. We'd never win anything with him. The only England manager in our entire history to win a knockout game against a major footballing nation outside of England. But yeah get rid as he didn't win either of the two finals he delivered for the first time in 50 years+.
So they turn to an elite tactician who has won every single qualifying game he's played so far. That ain't good enough either. We didn't want him. He should resign apparently, in October, 8 months before a World Cup, with a literally perfect and unblemished competitive record.
I honestly think there is probably only one nation on Earth that could beat their next door neighbours 3-0 at home, have to do it in front of 80k fans that sit there chatting throughout the match, looking forward to the next Mexican Wave and then face calls the next morning for the coach to resign. We sit there like X Factor judges for every match between tournaments poking them with a stick in their cage demanding to be entertained... 3-0 ain't good enough lads, I was bored for an hour. A disgrace.
And then we're all baffled as to why we don't win major tournaments and why elite English players consistently say in retirement that they didn't particularly enjoy playing for England.
Absolute madness.
The irony is the best England looked under Southgate was in the world cup where we only made the quarter finals. Could easily have beaten France in that game and if Kane scored the second penalty who knows?
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The new England ? on 14:20 - Oct 10 with 1646 views
Yeh qualifiers used to be a really big deal. Norway, Poland and Holland under Taylor. Italy away under Hoddle. Croatia under McClaren.
Now basically everybody qualifies for everything because MONEY. Makes the 2 years between tournaments largely quite dull.
On top of which, matches vs Scotland, Wales and NI used to be competitive and we had the regular Home International tournament to look forward to in non-World Cup years.
England are in a slightly unfortunate place where qualification is routine (unlike, say, Scotland, where it is a serious objective to be achieved) but we're not quite good enough to win anything (so far).
The whole deal is generally the competition matches up to the Final. Elimination before the QF is embarrassing, a QF place is just about decent, a SF place is good as we can expect, and getting to the Final is as good as it's getting.
So it's about 6-9 matches very two years, one or two of which in the group stage will be not much harder than the qualifying games (though much more embarrassing if we're rubbish.) Hard to build a fan experience on that, really.
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The new England ? on 15:09 - Oct 10 with 1553 views
Last two games have been very impressive for England. Clear system and style of play now. We look very strong and durable with Andersen and Rice as the midfield two. One imagines Bellingham comes in for Rogers eventually but the side seems very settled and hopefully the shoehorning in of players not in their position will help us (which is something Southgate never used to until the last Euros when he decided to play all the players all the time)
Tuchel’s England is developing nicely: players in form for their clubs given opportunities and kept in the team if they do well rather than jettisoned for big name players. Also players played in their correct positions. Looks a big step up from Southgate.
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The new England ? on 16:25 - Oct 10 with 1458 views
The new England ? on 16:05 - Oct 10 by Ned_Kennedys
Tuchel’s England is developing nicely: players in form for their clubs given opportunities and kept in the team if they do well rather than jettisoned for big name players. Also players played in their correct positions. Looks a big step up from Southgate.
'players in form for their clubs given opportunities and kept in the team if they do well rather than jettisoned for big name players'.
I like Tuchel but this isn't true.
Tuchel has recalled Henderson and Rashford after Southgate dropped them, something I'm sure you got very angry about once upon a time.
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The new England ? on 16:35 - Oct 10 with 1437 views
'players in form for their clubs given opportunities and kept in the team if they do well rather than jettisoned for big name players'.
I like Tuchel but this isn't true.
Tuchel has recalled Henderson and Rashford after Southgate dropped them, something I'm sure you got very angry about once upon a time.
Loftus Cheek has got in despite doing nothing for years
To be fair Southgate did similar when he came in and got rid of a lot of the big names but I'd be amazed if Tuchel follows through on this, they'll all be back next summer when it matters and hopefully be well motivated to do well
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The new England ? on 17:21 - Oct 10 with 1365 views
Loftus Cheek has got in despite doing nothing for years
To be fair Southgate did similar when he came in and got rid of a lot of the big names but I'd be amazed if Tuchel follows through on this, they'll all be back next summer when it matters and hopefully be well motivated to do well
Yeah, I’m not even against it to be honest, and maybe Henderson is doing well for Ajax.
But the narrative Tuchel is leading some revolution is false. I hadn’t even spotted Loftus Cheek.
game was over in 25 mins. we should have ripped them apart but performance was better and to think no kane, bellingham, shaw, grealish , james, mount, maguire? calvert-lewin, kelvin phillips so many to step in.
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The new England ? on 18:43 - Oct 10 with 1274 views
Yeah, I’m not even against it to be honest, and maybe Henderson is doing well for Ajax.
But the narrative Tuchel is leading some revolution is false. I hadn’t even spotted Loftus Cheek.
Henderson plays for Brentford BTW
I do hope Tuchel is sending a message to the likes of Bellingham & Foden ala Terry Venables when he left out Ince before Euro 96 because of his big time Charlie attitude A part of me though has this sinking feeling that we won’t be seeing them or Grealish at the World Cup which would be insane Thought Spence was decent last night and played some balls down the line to Gordon that I hadn’t seen since Bardsley was plying his trade
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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The new England ? on 18:58 - Oct 10 with 1257 views
The new England ? on 17:27 - Oct 10 by themodfather
game was over in 25 mins. we should have ripped them apart but performance was better and to think no kane, bellingham, shaw, grealish , james, mount, maguire? calvert-lewin, kelvin phillips so many to step in.
You're a bit out of date here, the days of England caps for Mount, Calvert Lewin and Phillips are long over with Maguire no doubt to follow.
The new England ? on 17:27 - Oct 10 by themodfather
game was over in 25 mins. we should have ripped them apart but performance was better and to think no kane, bellingham, shaw, grealish , james, mount, maguire? calvert-lewin, kelvin phillips so many to step in.
Go easy on some of those names. Maguire, Shaw? Their international futures are behind them.
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The new England ? on 22:06 - Oct 10 with 1104 views
Loftus Cheek has got in despite doing nothing for years
To be fair Southgate did similar when he came in and got rid of a lot of the big names but I'd be amazed if Tuchel follows through on this, they'll all be back next summer when it matters and hopefully be well motivated to do well
I wouldn’t have brought Loftus Cheek in either but I assume he’s been watched playing for AC Milan and has been doing well enough to merit his place.
I hope the likes of Bellingham, Palmer and Foden are only picked if they are fit, playing regularly and playing well. Foden seems to be getting back to form at last.
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The new England ? on 05:02 - Oct 11 with 938 views
The new England ? on 22:14 - Oct 10 by Ned_Kennedys
I wouldn’t have brought Loftus Cheek in either but I assume he’s been watched playing for AC Milan and has been doing well enough to merit his place.
I hope the likes of Bellingham, Palmer and Foden are only picked if they are fit, playing regularly and playing well. Foden seems to be getting back to form at last.
Going by your logic there, which do agree with to a certain extent, Grealish should have at least been in the squad for the Wales match.
I actually think Tuchel is building nicely and the shift in the trendy styles of football might just suit us.
Didn't mind his comments about the crowd, home crowds at Wembley have never been great. Maybe its time to consider an "active" section at one end? I remember way back in the 90s at Venables first game as manager a few of us trying to get songs going, it was hard work! Although we did have some success at times.
Players seem to like him too.
I think you're onto something there Sydney. Fill one end of the ground with Chel*** and Leeds fans and the other with fans from the other 90 clubs . You could even give it a catchy name like "cùnts corner"
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The new England ? on 13:29 - Oct 11 with 698 views
I think you're onto something there Sydney. Fill one end of the ground with Chel*** and Leeds fans and the other with fans from the other 90 clubs . You could even give it a catchy name like "cùnts corner"
“England aren’t quite good enough to win it all” is repeated so often that people mistake it for being true. What a load of crap. Of course England aren’t quite good enough to win it all. Granted we haven’t , but that doesn’t mean we can’t. Putting together a tournament run and win is extraordinarily difficult because, as it turns outs out, other teams want to win it too and are trying very hard to do so. But look at Englands results. Tournament after tournament we are in with a chance. In the last ten games, England have won nine and lost one and out scored their opponents 24-3. That’s an amazing record and the defeatist mentality of “England aren’t quite not good enough to win it all” is just a loads of codswallop!!
I mean there's a post 4 posts above mine asking him to sign a resignation letter.
I can only assume you’re not a lover of irony? Good spin on it but you’ll see it doesn’t ask for anything of the sort.
As for the self entitlement opinion I’d disagree as well. Been done to death but, the best chance we had of silverware with the most balanced and exciting squad was wimped away in 2021.
The current options for a balanced squad are pretty poor IMHO Goalkeeper will be a problem - not many candidates and the current incumbent is a little bit mad. Defenders are pretty ropey across the line and I’m not seeing any of the personnel being bang on it and world class. Midfield we do have an embarrassment of riches and it’s a tough one for Tuchel to get the balance right and keep everyone happy. However, Henderson and Loftus-Cheek are mad choices and O’Reilly ahead of others is odd. Strikers is a concern if Kane isn’t fully fit and firing, Watkins has his moments but for me is most effective against high lines (and you don’t get many of those at international level). It seems to me there’s no third or fourth option up top.
With the above in mind I’d be amazed if England go too deep into this next crazy World Cup tournament. That’s just a quirk of timing and what’s available for the squad at this time
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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The new England ? on 09:43 - Oct 12 with 311 views
England v Wales, which you would think would be a bit of a draw on free to air TV, averaged just 2.7m viewers on ITV last night and that dropped to 2m in the second half when The Celebrity Traitors started on BBC1 - that averaged 5.6m.
Grimsby v Man Utd in the same timeslot on ITV, with a split feed on Sky Sports, got 3.6m viewers a month ago.
Don't tell TT or he will be having a go at the armchair fans too.😁
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The new England ? on 09:59 - Oct 12 with 282 views
I can only assume you’re not a lover of irony? Good spin on it but you’ll see it doesn’t ask for anything of the sort.
As for the self entitlement opinion I’d disagree as well. Been done to death but, the best chance we had of silverware with the most balanced and exciting squad was wimped away in 2021.
The current options for a balanced squad are pretty poor IMHO Goalkeeper will be a problem - not many candidates and the current incumbent is a little bit mad. Defenders are pretty ropey across the line and I’m not seeing any of the personnel being bang on it and world class. Midfield we do have an embarrassment of riches and it’s a tough one for Tuchel to get the balance right and keep everyone happy. However, Henderson and Loftus-Cheek are mad choices and O’Reilly ahead of others is odd. Strikers is a concern if Kane isn’t fully fit and firing, Watkins has his moments but for me is most effective against high lines (and you don’t get many of those at international level). It seems to me there’s no third or fourth option up top.
With the above in mind I’d be amazed if England go too deep into this next crazy World Cup tournament. That’s just a quirk of timing and what’s available for the squad at this time
Pickford is grossly underrated IMO and across a long England career has done very little wrong. Depends on fitness of course but Guehi will probably move to one of the top clubs in the world next summer. Trent, Reece James, Stones and plenty of other defenders playing for big clubs aren’t mugs. Loftus-Cheek is 29 and playing for AC Milan so not such a bizarre choice. The lack of options beyond Kane up front if Watkins declines is the only real weakness in the squad and probably enough to mean we’ll fall short but this lot will be expected to seriously compete with Argentina and the main European countries to win it and rightly so.
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The new England ? on 10:22 - Oct 12 with 228 views
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