| Season perspectives 08:07 - May 4 with 46203 views | charlieB |
Great result yesterday against Sunderland. Credit to the players, the staff, and especially the 1000 or so amazing fans who made the trip – that kind of support, in a game with nothing riding on it, speaks volumes.
I’ve been reflecting over my morning coffee and just wanted to share a few thoughts. I know not everyone will agree, but hopefully it comes across in the spirit it’s meant – as a long-time fan trying to see the full picture.
Marti deserves credit for keeping us up last season – he did the job he was brought in to do. But this season, we saw many of the same problems. We started with tactics that didn’t suit the squad – too passive, too deep, no real cutting edge. The players looked unsure of their roles and lacking confidence. When we eventually changed approach, results picked up – but it took too long, and the early damage was done.
From what I’ve heard, he wasn’t well-liked behind the scenes either. Stubborn, slow to adapt, quick to deflect when things went wrong – and very happy to take the praise when they didn’t. He’s clearly a good coach, but I don’t think he was ever truly the right fit for this club. I won’t miss the terrace songs.
On the other hand, I think Christian Nourry deserves more credit than he gets. He’s only 28, but age doesn’t define ability. He inherited a tough job – tight FFP limits, a small budget, and a club that’s been firefighting for years. And yet, recruitment has clearly improved. Not every signing will be an instant success, but all have contributed, and a few could add real long-term value – which is crucial for us as a selling club. They’ll take time to adapt, but there’s a shift in thinking, and that’s progress.
The Ben Williams situation clearly had an impact – he was offered a big opportunity abroad and took it, which is understandable. But the void it left in the football department was felt. That said, I’ve heard that’s now been addressed for next season, which is good news.
Of course, there’s a lot to do this summer. We need a head coach who suits the group, a more consistent playing style, and a couple of clever additions. But I genuinely feel more hopeful than I have in a while. There’s a bit of stability creeping in, and for once, it feels like we’re not just lurching from one short-term fix to the next.
One thing we do need to change though – the way we treat some of our players. Madsen’s taken stick all season, often when he’s done little wrong. Now it’s Dembele. It’s like we always need someone to have a go at. These lads are human. They need support, not abuse. Confidence matters.
Anyway, that’s just my view – take it or leave it. I’m not pretending everything’s perfect, but I do think there are a few more reasons for quiet optimism than people give credit for.
Thanks again to Clive – this board remains a brilliant space, even when we don’t all agree. Have a great summer everyone – and here’s to next season, hopefully with a new head coach who can take us forward on this mad old rollercoaster we all insist on riding.
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| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 with 2657 views | gigiisourgod |
| Season perspectives on 07:25 - May 5 by Phildo |
Charlie
Can you clear up a few questions with the ITK
1 does Christians mum still make his packed lunch?
2 Is he allowed his phone after 9 30 hours on a school night |
Charlie,
3. What was the record amount of programmes he sold in a day at Hampton and Richmond? | | | |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 with 2657 views | charlieB |
| Season perspectives on 23:05 - May 4 by stainrods_elbow |
I've no idea who the OP is either, but his post, however 'off-message', strikes me as decently balanced, sensible, not actually very controversial, and well intentioned - though of course the road to hell is paved with them, as I have found it more than once in my life, both on and off this board. Some of the multiple responses say far about the respondents than anyone else, but the fact that this thread has already run for several pages shows he is great grist to the mill of a place like LfW, which would be one QPR fan/journalist writing reports and interviews etc. without its provocateurs and discussants.
As for his not elaborating on the source of his club information, I find the knowing/hostile retorts pretty unfathomable, as it's common knowledge on here that those close to the club don't disclose them, so this looks like a case of bullying (and tiresome pedantry) to me.
I have no strong opinion, and no particular axe to grind, re CN, as, like most if not all on this board, I don't know him nor have a clear picture of his demenours and misdemeanours at QPR. I do tend to agree that MC was never a good, long-term fit for QPR, and I would rate his performance as decidedly patchy - some good stuff, but some awful troughs too. I got quite weary of him digging us in and out of holes repeatedly - good managers achieve consistency, help the club to recruit well, and don't go all mysterious about keeping things 'internal' when the performances go, sometimes diabolically, tits-up. I also found Dave Mc's sniffy attitude to that last interview telling.
It'll be interesting to see where he (MC not DMc) rocks up next, and what he says about the club he professes to love so much, after his spot of gardening. I suspect it may not be in the Championship, as I don't think his stock will have risen enough. Unless he's guilty of gross misconduct, I'm sure he'll be very well paid regardless, given his contract renewal.
We move on! [Post edited 4 May 23:07]
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I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. | | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:07 - May 5 with 2548 views | Phildo |
Joking aside this thread is useful. We now know the owners picked a wrongun and the seeds of destruction have been sown. If you a a billionaire do you really want this sort of behaviour associated with you?
Amit Ruben Richard you know in your heart where this ends. |  | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:09 - May 5 with 2538 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 by charlieB |
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. |
Cyber bullying, really? After one post in April talking about cheese as per tradition, you suddenly appear with a lengthy post that (1) smears the behaviour of a manager, still popular on here, with alleged inside knowledge and (2) oddly sings the praises of our Commander in Chief.
Your first cheese post was greeted with nothing but kindness and welcoming.
Your second one was treated with people arguing the opposite to your views and, given past stooges on this board, questioning your validity. That's allowed, hardly bullying.
You may be genuine, but in my view none of your responses have particularly convinced me. Your Oxford Madsen story you cling to is odd, too. I, like many others on here, were in that away end and I don't remember Madsen "abuse". I also must have missed your post talking about it, after you were "inspired" to do so. I find it odd that if your views are so anti-Cifuentes, why not be "inspired" to question his ridiculous faffing about subbing off Field that night that cost us a goal and could have cost us the match.
I am a big fan of Marti, but not so blinkered to think he was perfect. Always happy to hear arguments against and I posted on here my fury about his sacking off of the Leicester cup tie.
The pro-Nourry stuff is just odd because even when we've had competent executives (can't remember when, but hey) as a fan it is hardly something you get excited about.
But each to their own.
Maybe you are genuine. We are all different. Excuse us if we've been around QPR a long time and never heard anyone talking about "Bobby Z" or "the beamback" with pride.
I know that doesn't prove anything. After all, some loyal souls had snakes with them in the away end on Saturday and personally I couldn't disagree with them more.
And our No.1 fan Terry Cinzano also talks about Rangers in a language I can't relate to, and he's been to every single second of every home game since the late 19th century.
So perhaps you aren't a stooge. Questioning it is fine in my book - but I still completely disagree with your views. |  | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:10 - May 5 with 2519 views | paddyhdog |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 by charlieB |
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. |
We won't hound you out? Let's see if you're still here in a year Charlie. You seem to be strangely interested in the number of post impressions.
You're acting very naive and defensive. You've been called out. This forum is full of devoted fans, and more importantly fans that are by and large balanced, intelligent, and try to base things on what they see travelling around the country overpaying to see a largely failing team. That is the only evidence they can base their views on, as the comms strategy under CN is to tell the fans feck all and use spin and PR to try and hoodwink them.
I was sad when I started reading this thread. But then uplifted seeing how all of the old heads called you out. A good football club is not run by PR. It's run by being honest open and respectful with your fans, and involving them in trying to build the better club they want and deserve. | | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:20 - May 5 with 2428 views | ngbqpr |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 by charlieB |
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. |
Ok, I'll try the benefit of the doubt approach.
"I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you..." - can you please then share with those of us who haven't heard that Cifuentes "wasn't well liked behind the scenes" and that the Ben Williams situation is being sorted, where you heard this.
We can then make our own judgments and quietly move on.
They were two statements that jumped out from your opening post, and over however many pages we're at now, with however many posts from your good self, you've not added any clarification on those points. |  |
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| Season perspectives on 08:29 - May 5 with 2380 views | LongRanger |
| Season perspectives on 08:10 - May 5 by paddyhdog |
We won't hound you out? Let's see if you're still here in a year Charlie. You seem to be strangely interested in the number of post impressions.
You're acting very naive and defensive. You've been called out. This forum is full of devoted fans, and more importantly fans that are by and large balanced, intelligent, and try to base things on what they see travelling around the country overpaying to see a largely failing team. That is the only evidence they can base their views on, as the comms strategy under CN is to tell the fans feck all and use spin and PR to try and hoodwink them.
I was sad when I started reading this thread. But then uplifted seeing how all of the old heads called you out. A good football club is not run by PR. It's run by being honest open and respectful with your fans, and involving them in trying to build the better club they want and deserve. |
Totally agree… not sure if this is PR, a mate of CN who thinks he can help him or what, but there is no authenticity to any of what Charlie writes, but more to the point, what a sad reflection on CNs communication strategy.
If he communicated to fans regularly, about the good stuff and the challenges, we wouldn’t need to suspect anyone.
There are a number of examples of piss poor PR going on though, and linking back to one of my first posts on Nourry that he reminds me of someone in the Apprentice, nothing has changed for me on that, he’s an embarrassment to our club, and this is just another example for the pile of evidence | | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:37 - May 5 with 2322 views | charlieB |
Here we go again. Just saying I am a PR. Well done.
Just because I take a pro stance I get accused of being on the payroll. This is very sad.
Maybe just accept we have a different viewpoint rather than come to any wild conclusions. Time will tell if I am right or wrong but I am entitled to a view point. Like you guys are too. | | | |
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| Season perspectives (n/t) on 08:39 - May 5 with 2296 views | willo |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 by charlieB |
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. |
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| Season perspectives on 08:44 - May 5 with 2246 views | willo |
| Season perspectives on 07:44 - May 5 by charlieB |
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I genuinely am a fan and I genuinely posted in good intent. I have nothing to do with the club whatsoever. We are a relatively small club and as a fan I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you. Look at the rumours on Twitter and on here.
Whats shocking is the cyber bully approach. Lead from the top. I am not surprised that with 15600 impressions on this thread only a handful are brave enough to stand up and agree. Thats because they will get hounded out by the pack.
As I said in this thread yesterday I was driven to say something after the Madsen abuse I witnessed as Oxford United. Now I think I know where many of the abuse stems from.
So call me CN, Steve, a stooge, a troll, a PR or whatever because the truth hurts. MC wasn’t the messiah you all made him out to be, he has his faults (and qualities I said) and likewise CN isn’t doing the bad job you make out to be. Nobody is perfect but the abuse of some of the players and staff is abhorrent and a sad reflection.
I feel strongly about this and I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out. |
For me, there's no issue in posting in Nourry's defence as long as the claims made can be substantiated. What is problematic is that in your first post of substance you have impugned the character of the manager and when asked to substantiate you haven't been willing to do so. And now you are making a bizarre allegation that the host of this forum is a cyberbully. That's not a trivial thing to claim and it's not the way most people would behave so soon after joining a forum. [Post edited 5 May 8:48]
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| Season perspectives on 08:45 - May 5 with 2241 views | LongRanger |
| Season perspectives on 08:37 - May 5 by charlieB |
Here we go again. Just saying I am a PR. Well done.
Just because I take a pro stance I get accused of being on the payroll. This is very sad.
Maybe just accept we have a different viewpoint rather than come to any wild conclusions. Time will tell if I am right or wrong but I am entitled to a view point. Like you guys are too. |
Like I said…if he wasn’t so poor, we wouldn’t have any reason to doubt you | | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:48 - May 5 with 2191 views | Mr_Beef |
| Season perspectives on 08:37 - May 5 by charlieB |
Here we go again. Just saying I am a PR. Well done.
Just because I take a pro stance I get accused of being on the payroll. This is very sad.
Maybe just accept we have a different viewpoint rather than come to any wild conclusions. Time will tell if I am right or wrong but I am entitled to a view point. Like you guys are too. |
You came on and posted about the manager in detail and then the fitness coach. You were asked repeatedly how you knew, and haven't responded at all.
It's hard to avoid the conclusion that you have some sort of agenda. Transparency on your part would no doubt alleviate some of the concerns, but for your own reasons you haven't provided any. It's not surprising that people view you cynically, is it? |  | | |
| Season perspectives on 08:52 - May 5 with 2143 views | Blue_Castello |
| Season perspectives on 08:20 - May 5 by ngbqpr |
Ok, I'll try the benefit of the doubt approach.
"I do hear and read stuff but no more than most of you..." - can you please then share with those of us who haven't heard that Cifuentes "wasn't well liked behind the scenes" and that the Ben Williams situation is being sorted, where you heard this.
We can then make our own judgments and quietly move on.
They were two statements that jumped out from your opening post, and over however many pages we're at now, with however many posts from your good self, you've not added any clarification on those points. |
Exactly you posed the question on page 8 and it was conveniently avoided, the OP has stated he has nothing to do with the club on page 1 , so bearing in mind the total blackout of news coming from the club obviously at CNs directive how can he know this information.
We all have to make guesses about what's going on all the time but my guess is Nourry does read this site, is perturbed by the overwhelming negativity towards him and obviously wants to change that perception. He was too frightened to let Clive have his regular interview with Marti, he knows the sort of questions that would have been posed and was afraid of the potential answers.
So now we have a campaign to try and change the views of the regular contributors to LFW, not sure why but probably the insecurity that comes with being such an inexperienced CEO, therein lies most of the problem.
This screams of the Paladini years which were horrendous for his total mismanagement, getting stooges like Qblockpete and Scott Jones to continually post contrary views to try and generate some positivity.
I am genuinely wishing for the day that Marti gets another job and can then do an interview giving his side of the story, I'm sure he can't say a word if he still wants to get paid, bit like a gagging order.
As for the OP saying he has Dyslexia how the hell did he manage to post such a precise post in the first place, we've seen before genuine people with dyslexia on this board..... [Post edited 5 May 9:00]
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| Season perspectives on 09:01 - May 5 with 2085 views | Andybrat |
| Season perspectives (n/t) on 08:39 - May 5 by willo |
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Dare I say I did start a thread a couple of weeks ago about Nourry not doing the worst job, quoted FFP, the fact the squad is stronger, despite injuries. I remember a number of Clive’s reports positively mentioning the bench options we now have, the DS success. I know he didn’t find Marti but I believe he recruited him so presume it was his decision. I got a little bit of stick but this thread is pretty awful on so many levels. Mr Elbows response really well balanced.
I can’t believe you are an internal attempt to appease or justify actions of the leadership, therefore I can’t believe you are ITK because it’s plainly obvious no one is.
Funny though I spoke to a number of Reading fans yesterday who have really been through the mill. They asked why Marti was off I mentioned his reps had spoken to WBA, they did the same with Steve Clarke some years ago when they found out he was touting himself about, he didn’t even go on garden leave. I’m a Marti fan btw just wish they could reconcile | | | |
| Season perspectives on 09:16 - May 5 with 1975 views | Mistication92 |
We'll reading 9 pages of that was interesting...
Can we start a new chant about Bobby Z in 89 next season? | | | |
| Season perspectives on 09:21 - May 5 with 1940 views | hubble |
9 pages and no one's mentioned Tommy Nintendo yet.
It's just like the good old (bad old) days! |  |
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| Season perspectives on 09:30 - May 5 with 1883 views | R_from_afar |
"There’s a bit of stability creeping in, and for once, it feels like we’re not just lurching from one short-term fix to the next".
This is the section which most bothers me. I can't believe that any genuine fan, even the most pro-Nourry one, could think, let alone, write this. How little attention would you need to be paying to think this?
For example:
- A large number of key players are about to be out of contract
- We are in a crazy limbo situation with our manager
- The team keeps experiencing wild swings in form
- We often flirt with relegation
- While showing signs of improvement, our internal player development is nowhere near where it needs to be yet
- We are in the middle of an S&P induced nightmare which looks like it will never end, mainly because
- Nothing is being done to address our issues with the stadium (capacity, long term future, mon-matchday revenues)
- Communication between the club and the fans about the really serious stuff is appalling. There is an information vacuum which is being filled with endless rumours, in the know claims and sock puppet campaigns. Perhaps you could flag this up to the people you claim to know behind the scenes, please?
You talk about posters subjecting you to a witch trial. Well, while things aren't all bad at QPR, for the true, long-standing fan, for a lot of the time in recent years, a trial is what supporting the club has been like.
It's spirit-crushing and not easy to cope with season after season. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Season perspectives on 09:34 - May 5 with 1846 views | Dorse |
| Season perspectives on 09:30 - May 5 by R_from_afar |
"There’s a bit of stability creeping in, and for once, it feels like we’re not just lurching from one short-term fix to the next".
This is the section which most bothers me. I can't believe that any genuine fan, even the most pro-Nourry one, could think, let alone, write this. How little attention would you need to be paying to think this?
For example:
- A large number of key players are about to be out of contract
- We are in a crazy limbo situation with our manager
- The team keeps experiencing wild swings in form
- We often flirt with relegation
- While showing signs of improvement, our internal player development is nowhere near where it needs to be yet
- We are in the middle of an S&P induced nightmare which looks like it will never end, mainly because
- Nothing is being done to address our issues with the stadium (capacity, long term future, mon-matchday revenues)
- Communication between the club and the fans about the really serious stuff is appalling. There is an information vacuum which is being filled with endless rumours, in the know claims and sock puppet campaigns. Perhaps you could flag this up to the people you claim to know behind the scenes, please?
You talk about posters subjecting you to a witch trial. Well, while things aren't all bad at QPR, for the true, long-standing fan, for a lot of the time in recent years, a trial is what supporting the club has been like.
It's spirit-crushing and not easy to cope with season after season. |
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| Season perspectives on 09:36 - May 5 with 1831 views | londonscottish |
| Season perspectives on 19:05 - May 4 by Northernr |
What name do you think they'll go with next week? |
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| Season perspectives on 09:39 - May 5 with 1793 views | Hunterhoop |
“I’m going nowhere. You won’t hound me out.”
Are we talking about this MB or the club here?
If the latter, it may be hard to, if you get your way with your desired change at shareholder level. |  | | |
| Season perspectives on 09:58 - May 5 with 1672 views | themodfather |
season perspectives, ok i wanted us to be mid table and safe from the drop, we did.
it is a roller-coaster with qpr and the CARRY ON never ends but our support grows, our away support is amazing for the lack of success but we sell out many away games. | | | |
| Season perspectives on 09:59 - May 5 with 1659 views | Jevlar |
This thread has been the perfect bank holiday morning read! Without wishing to pile on, I read a book by Malcolm Gladwell called ‘Blink’ which used the example of an art expert calling out this work of art as a fake almost immediately upon seeing it, despite someone spending millions buying it. The art expert was right, it was a fake.
And reading all of the posts in this thread, it’s exactly this feeling I have with OP and a few other comments made along the way. It doesn’t feel or read right.
That being said - some actual communication from the club - Lee, Christian on where we are at wouldn’t be a bad thing. Imagine that though - the club talking to its fans.
After all, they’ve been quick to email me to say my auto-renewed season ticket has happened.
If you are reading CN this can very easily be cancelled too and I’m tempted. |  | | |
| Season perspectives on 10:05 - May 5 with 1595 views | silverbirch |
| Season perspectives on 09:30 - May 5 by R_from_afar |
"There’s a bit of stability creeping in, and for once, it feels like we’re not just lurching from one short-term fix to the next".
This is the section which most bothers me. I can't believe that any genuine fan, even the most pro-Nourry one, could think, let alone, write this. How little attention would you need to be paying to think this?
For example:
- A large number of key players are about to be out of contract
- We are in a crazy limbo situation with our manager
- The team keeps experiencing wild swings in form
- We often flirt with relegation
- While showing signs of improvement, our internal player development is nowhere near where it needs to be yet
- We are in the middle of an S&P induced nightmare which looks like it will never end, mainly because
- Nothing is being done to address our issues with the stadium (capacity, long term future, mon-matchday revenues)
- Communication between the club and the fans about the really serious stuff is appalling. There is an information vacuum which is being filled with endless rumours, in the know claims and sock puppet campaigns. Perhaps you could flag this up to the people you claim to know behind the scenes, please?
You talk about posters subjecting you to a witch trial. Well, while things aren't all bad at QPR, for the true, long-standing fan, for a lot of the time in recent years, a trial is what supporting the club has been like.
It's spirit-crushing and not easy to cope with season after season. |
Sure, but apart from that… | | | |
| Season perspectives on 10:14 - May 5 with 1524 views | scotted1987 |
I'm not going to weigh in on the other crap 😂
Overall, frustrating season! You can clearly see that the team we were fielding that some of the players were carrying injuries. This really hinders off the ball movement and this is one area I think we're one of the weakest teams in the league for. A fully fit player should be trusted to do the job. I'm unsure if this was background pressure to play certain players or coach decision.
Either way, I think we've been lucky to get away with it this season. I hope it doesn't carry through to next season. | | | |
| Season perspectives on 10:26 - May 5 with 1459 views | ed_83 |
It does always tickle me when people (by no means exclusive to here) look at people reacting negatively to them, and decide that it’s because they’re a horrible mob addicted to groupthink and mercilessly bullying them for their fearless truth-speaking, rather than because their opinions are bad and their manner is offputting, | | | |
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