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MC has been on GL for nearly 6 weeks now - and not a whisper from the club, not even to clarify what they propose to do with him (or he with them)! It's pathetic and unacceptable. The club also, obviously, needs to be planning its pre-season and recruitment. We're supposed to be operating a professional entity, with buy-in from the fans. Pah!
The reason I knew was my son had been told over a week ago that it had been agreed in principal.
In fairness I don't think it is the club being malicious, but someone is definitely talking outside of official channels. I now know this for a fact as my son was told QPR wanted Alfie Gilchrist. Bizarrely the next day I was talking to one of my customers and we started chatting about footie. When I mentioned QPR he said that he knows a player that might be joining - Alfie Gilchrist. He knows him personally so I can't say anymore on that.
Thanks. Do you know reason why club is delaying announcement? Guess it’s legal due to Marti situation?
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Manager situation on 21:36 - Jun 11 with 4087 views
Manager situation on 21:36 - Jun 11 by 1BobbyHazell
Do we know his playing style/approach?
Not sure how accurate but had skim through some of formations he’s used on Sofascore and seems to use quite a few and not fixed to one. So if it’s correct he’s either indecisive or flexible depending on your viewpoint.
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Manager situation on 21:40 - Jun 11 with 4001 views
The reason I knew was my son had been told over a week ago that it had been agreed in principal.
In fairness I don't think it is the club being malicious, but someone is definitely talking outside of official channels. I now know this for a fact as my son was told QPR wanted Alfie Gilchrist. Bizarrely the next day I was talking to one of my customers and we started chatting about footie. When I mentioned QPR he said that he knows a player that might be joining - Alfie Gilchrist. He knows him personally so I can't say anymore on that.
Hopefully it’s not indicative of what will happen here.
Not exactly a glowing endorsement. He was good at building a team up and moving players on but injuries caught up and he couldn’t sustain the form. This won’t last until Xmas.
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Manager situation on 21:53 - Jun 11 with 3815 views
Thanks. Do you know reason why club is delaying announcement? Guess it’s legal due to Marti situation?
They understandably want to announce both at once - Cifuentes gone and new guy in. They’ve been trying since very shortly after putting Cifuentes on GL to drag themselves from the hole they’ve dug but Cifuentes to now has quite happy to continue getting paid in full and wait for the right opportunity to come up.
My gut feeling is they’ll agree to pay him the rest of his contract as a lump to draw a line under it and avoid the nightmare scenario of him still being theoretically around if/when we lose a couple on the trot.
Fair play to you R from afar this is the first reasonable and rational post in response. To question whether the clubs PR strategy is the right approach. I agree that's a fair question to raise and I do think they have gone too far one way to the point they have aggravated those addicted to constant updates. Even if it's week before preseason even starts
The part of this thread that lead to so many getting all upset with me begun with me responding to Simmo's opinion that it was either "apathy" or an intention to "disrespect" fans that drove the clubs PR strategy. I believe that opinion to be total nonsense and gave my reasons for that view. Only your post here was a reasonable and rational approach of why they should do a different approach
But the main thing for me is even if it's misguided. The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect
On the various people accusing me of being a paid PR person I will take as a compliment. But I am not and if you believe that then you literally are a conspiracy theorist because that is a conspiracy theory. It is not true
It's clearly upsetting for some that someone holds a different view to the group think and it's even more distressing when credible points are made. I haven't until just now a credible rebuttal in any of the lengthy posts in response although I do particularly enjoy Baz popping in now and then with a one liner of provable nonsense about Errea being as big a company as Nike or our pitch not being smaller than average
Also enjoyed Dave B tells me that we had our highest average attendance since the Premiership years in the season that Gareth Ainsworth was our manager because it was "exciting" and that in the season we begun with our worst without a win at home ever our crowds were higher because the fans believed we "were on the up". Personally I'm not convinced by that theory though
"...aggravated those addicted to constant updates."
What a patronising pr1ck.
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Manager situation on 22:44 - Jun 11 with 3197 views
Being as pragmatic as possible about this, which I know is not the point of being a football fan but whatever:
If you're one of us slightly odd "legacy fans" (ugh) who consider it a point of pride to support the club in the same way we've always done regardless of owner, manager, league division or marketing efforts, would it actually surprise you to be told, yes, the club DOES try harder to appeal to 20-year-old TikTok celebrities than to us? 20-year-old TikTok celebrities who might decide that watching Chelsea is a perfectly good alternative if QPR doesn't pass the vibe check?
We aren't even good for word-of-mouth, because our social circles tend to be people like us, who already know which team they support, and if it isn't QPR, we actively discourage them from switching to QPR. You'll never be a real QPR fan unless it was forced on you as a child, we tell them.
So if Nourry were to come on here, and we asked him why the club seems to have a policy of finding out what we want and then doing the opposite, what would you want him to do - confirm that we don't really matter, or feed us some reassuring bollocks?
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Manager situation on 08:41 - Jun 12 with 1988 views
Manager situation on 01:04 - Jun 12 by NewcastleHoop
Being as pragmatic as possible about this, which I know is not the point of being a football fan but whatever:
If you're one of us slightly odd "legacy fans" (ugh) who consider it a point of pride to support the club in the same way we've always done regardless of owner, manager, league division or marketing efforts, would it actually surprise you to be told, yes, the club DOES try harder to appeal to 20-year-old TikTok celebrities than to us? 20-year-old TikTok celebrities who might decide that watching Chelsea is a perfectly good alternative if QPR doesn't pass the vibe check?
We aren't even good for word-of-mouth, because our social circles tend to be people like us, who already know which team they support, and if it isn't QPR, we actively discourage them from switching to QPR. You'll never be a real QPR fan unless it was forced on you as a child, we tell them.
So if Nourry were to come on here, and we asked him why the club seems to have a policy of finding out what we want and then doing the opposite, what would you want him to do - confirm that we don't really matter, or feed us some reassuring bollocks?
What do you actually mean by that? It's a bit confusing.
As in what does the club actually do to appeal to 20 year old Tik Tok'ers that is the opposite of what we 'legacy fans' have asked for? Genuine question.
One of the themes from this thread has been about a lack of communication with fans. I'm no expert but my understanding is that to engage 20 year old Tik Tok'ers you have to feed their need for constant 'content'.
Has the club been doing that? And why would older fans be against it?!
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Manager situation on 08:58 - Jun 12 with 1905 views
Manager situation on 01:04 - Jun 12 by NewcastleHoop
Being as pragmatic as possible about this, which I know is not the point of being a football fan but whatever:
If you're one of us slightly odd "legacy fans" (ugh) who consider it a point of pride to support the club in the same way we've always done regardless of owner, manager, league division or marketing efforts, would it actually surprise you to be told, yes, the club DOES try harder to appeal to 20-year-old TikTok celebrities than to us? 20-year-old TikTok celebrities who might decide that watching Chelsea is a perfectly good alternative if QPR doesn't pass the vibe check?
We aren't even good for word-of-mouth, because our social circles tend to be people like us, who already know which team they support, and if it isn't QPR, we actively discourage them from switching to QPR. You'll never be a real QPR fan unless it was forced on you as a child, we tell them.
So if Nourry were to come on here, and we asked him why the club seems to have a policy of finding out what we want and then doing the opposite, what would you want him to do - confirm that we don't really matter, or feed us some reassuring bollocks?
I don't even know what a 20 year old tik toker is! But I do know that we seem to have a quite large young fan base turning up at the ground lately, which I think is down to cost of tickets compared to a prem club and not tik tok.
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Manager situation on 08:41 - Jun 12 by 1BobbyHazell
What do you actually mean by that? It's a bit confusing.
As in what does the club actually do to appeal to 20 year old Tik Tok'ers that is the opposite of what we 'legacy fans' have asked for? Genuine question.
One of the themes from this thread has been about a lack of communication with fans. I'm no expert but my understanding is that to engage 20 year old Tik Tok'ers you have to feed their need for constant 'content'.
Has the club been doing that? And why would older fans be against it?!
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Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Even if you were focusing on one demographic of fan, you could and should also keep other fans happy, they're not mutually exclusive. You could have someone at the ground every day filming content for tiktok to keep the younger fans happy and then also provide news via the website for "legacy to" fans.
The implication that because they're always going to turn up you can treat them like dirt is horrible and perplexing that someone claiming to be part of that group would accept it. At the end of the day, if a group is going to have the power to make his position untenable, it's the "legacy" fans who actually turn up and could easily protest. So perhaps their strategy should treat them with more respect.
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Manager situation on 09:45 - Jun 12 with 1591 views
I'm a little sad that MC is leaving. I get that it's the way it works etc... and that managers don't last long but I liked MC and thought he was a good fit for QPR. He was not perfect but neither is QPR. We now get a new manager that will hopefully do well and he turns out a side that can compete, prosper, survive but I don't have a great feeling about this one, just a gut feeling. It's the hope that kills you...
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Manager situation on 09:45 - Jun 12 with 1590 views
For what its worth, I don't think Beans is a Nourry PR mole (I think CharlieB was), but the way Beans writes tries to imply they're very smart, however the grammar they use suggests otherwise. I think its someone already on this forum creating a new profile to throw a grenade and enjoy some limelight, which if so is embarrassing and sad in equal measure. Also an interesting flow of posts along the 12 pages, to suggest both profiles could be involved in it. I might be totally wrong, just an opinion.
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