| Manager situation 09:47 - Jun 8 with 85999 views | stainrods_elbow |
MC has been on GL for nearly 6 weeks now - and not a whisper from the club, not even to clarify what they propose to do with him (or he with them)! It's pathetic and unacceptable.
The club also, obviously, needs to be planning its pre-season and recruitment. We're supposed to be operating a professional entity, with buy-in from the fans. Pah!
What will/should happen next?
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| Manager situation on 14:45 - Jun 11 with 3320 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
Cool, I believe you.
How do you know? |  | | |
| Manager situation on 14:53 - Jun 11 with 3200 views | daveB |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
Thats good news if it is sorted as will be good to get that all sorted sooner rather than later
will look forward to when the club decide we are allowed to know about this |  | | |
| Manager situation on 14:59 - Jun 11 with 3128 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Manager situation on 12:47 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Julien Stephane is all done and dusted as our new manager.
Might as well close these manager threads. |
I'm not doubting you, Wilkins, but two obvious questions springs to mind, and maybe you can or can't answer them:-
1) If it's done and dusted why hasn't he started work, and
2) If he has started work, why would it be hidden from the members of the club? |  |
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| Manager situation on 15:09 - Jun 11 with 3058 views | mart_Goblin |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
Personally I have no problem with people knowing a little and sharing .
It’s what we are here for …to talk about our club.
Strange that when it’s a positive or suits a way of thinking that it’s ok but yet others are lambasted on here for similar things ( me included a year or 2 ago for similar).
I’ll gently remind people again, imagine the response if Lassel was posting similar?
Anyhow , once again it’s not just the head coach situation that makes people frustrated , so telling people to relax is slightly patronising .
We all know sooner or later a head coach will come in , preferably sooner , so you’ll be right anyway whether you know or not.
It’s the whole picture at our club at the moment that’s the issue. The head coach situation just one of those issues [Post edited 11 Jun 15:11]
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| Manager situation on 15:12 - Jun 11 with 3013 views | Northernr |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
When do you think they’ll feel the need to let us plebs know? |  | | |
| Manager situation on 15:51 - Jun 11 with 2689 views | simmo |
| Manager situation on 15:12 - Jun 11 by Northernr |
When do you think they’ll feel the need to let us plebs know? |
When it maximises the revenue return Clive - have you not been listening? |  |
| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
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| Manager situation on 15:53 - Jun 11 with 2677 views | kensalriser |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
Not saying you're wrong as I don't have a clue, but you've been telling us the new manager is sorted for a couple of weeks now. The only wrinkle is the name has changed in that time. |  |
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| Manager situation on 16:00 - Jun 11 with 2615 views | JamesB1979 |
If we have sorted a new manager, the only reason I can think that we wouldn’t be told is due to some legal stuff, so not official. The club would be desperate to release some good news on this.
The revenue stuff on the other news items seems like a lot of nonsense to me. Although this doesn’t bother me as much as most on here.
The kit stuff - doesn’t make any sense other than the club have messed up or the supplier and sponsor have. Either way it’s a f.uck up.
Don’t get the personal insults for Nourry though. |  | | |
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| Manager situation on 16:07 - Jun 11 with 2563 views | dmm |
| Manager situation on 14:38 - Jun 11 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
So is having it implied that making a positive post about the club must somehow mean I'm either taking payment from Nourry or hated MC and therefore have an agenda.
The manager situation has been sorted and everyone needs to relax. |
I don't think that at all. For me, at least, the annoyance is that you don't give any indication as to how you know this information. Please tell us why we should accept your comment as fact. |  | | |
| Manager situation on 16:23 - Jun 11 with 2432 views | goodlife |
I asked ChatGPT
> Is Julien Stephan genuinely interested in the head coach position at QPR?
>His interest could be genuine, given his background and experience in coaching, but it's also possible that he could be using the situation to enhance his visibility for other opportunities. Without more recent information or insights from Stephan himself, it's difficult to ascertain his true motivations. |  | | |
| Manager situation on 16:27 - Jun 11 with 2381 views | Rsole |
I think that they probably need to shift Marti before making an announcement about his replacement.
That would likely have several moving parts and impacts - legally, financially and emotionally. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| Manager situation on 16:27 - Jun 11 with 2378 views | daveB |
| Manager situation on 14:59 - Jun 11 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'm not doubting you, Wilkins, but two obvious questions springs to mind, and maybe you can or can't answer them:-
1) If it's done and dusted why hasn't he started work, and
2) If he has started work, why would it be hidden from the members of the club? |
did you not read Beans, it's being held back to help with ticket sales. | | | |
| Manager situation on 16:37 - Jun 11 with 2282 views | johnhoop |
| Manager situation on 15:12 - Jun 11 by Northernr |
When do you think they’ll feel the need to let us plebs know? |
When it doesn’t give the opposition a “competitive advantage.”
Maybe five minutes into the first game of next season. | | | |
| Manager situation on 16:44 - Jun 11 with 2205 views | BklynRanger |
| Manager situation on 15:51 - Jun 11 by simmo |
When it maximises the revenue return Clive - have you not been listening? |
Fcuking wake the fcuk up Clive!
Would it kill you to pretend for 5 mins that you're handy with a gant chart? |  | | |
| Manager situation on 16:46 - Jun 11 with 2187 views | R_from_afar |
| Manager situation on 08:15 - Jun 11 by Beans |
Is there any need to start with calling someone thick. Especially when you have badly misunderstood the point being made. I thought I spelled out pretty clearly the strategy isn't aimed at the sort of fan who is renewing regardless or buying a match ticket, regardless
If you think I am suggesting people "forget" then you really aren't following along. It's about the marginal difference. The club have a strategy for maximising attendances. And I'm saying there PR strategy is part of it. For what you are saying to be true all things being equal we will sell the same number of tickets each season. Let's have a look if that is true
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-parkrangers/besucherzahlenentwicklung/ver
For the last 5 years excluding Covid affected seasons we averaged league attendances of 14,185. For the last two years since Nourry's involvement in the club it has been 16,254 and that includes this season a reduction because we normally have away fans only the top tier and then had to close off front rows in lower school end. This is 2,000 extra a game. If you say the club average a conservative £30 revenue per extra person that's £1.4m a season extra. Bit more significant than what Simmo was allegedly so worried about on the shirt sales impact.
Spreading out the news is a part of the strategy for the reasons outlined in my two previous posts
And on Baz's point comparing Nike to Errea in size. Errea have around 200 employees where as Nike have around 80,000 would be my response on that |
Surely the mission of a communications department is to enhance its audience's understanding? The club's current approach is the opposite of that.
Also, by delaying announcements, the content is no longer as topical and is arguably no longer "news" because it has already leaked out as part of the tidal wave of rumours and conjecture which are constantly lapping over the fans' heads at the moment.
In fact, the very notion that announcements should be timed to attract the maximum revenue from fans, when following a football club already accounts for such a high percentage of their disposable income, seems like an inappropriate marketing strategy for this market sector. Marketing is not a one size fits all strategy.
Not only is it inappropriate, it's actually pretty cynical and is indicative of a very poor understanding of what the relationship between a football club and its fans should ideally be. How much more do we need to be rinsed? It's disrespectful and ultimately counterproductive.
The marketing comms strategy should be repaying the fans' loyalty and their major financial and emotional investment in QPR by making our news channels the most trustworthy and reliable source of breaking news about the club.
Maybe things will change one day but currently, we're a million miles away from that. |  |
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| Manager situation on 16:52 - Jun 11 with 2102 views | ted_hendrix |
So let me get this right, we now have a tin of beans as a Manager but we can't announce It yet because we haven't paid the milkman. |  |
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| Manager situation on 16:55 - Jun 11 with 2076 views | EastR |
| Manager situation on 16:52 - Jun 11 by ted_hendrix |
So let me get this right, we now have a tin of beans as a Manager but we can't announce It yet because we haven't paid the milkman. |
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| Manager situation on 16:55 - Jun 11 with 2076 views | Beans |
| Manager situation on 16:46 - Jun 11 by R_from_afar |
Surely the mission of a communications department is to enhance its audience's understanding? The club's current approach is the opposite of that.
Also, by delaying announcements, the content is no longer as topical and is arguably no longer "news" because it has already leaked out as part of the tidal wave of rumours and conjecture which are constantly lapping over the fans' heads at the moment.
In fact, the very notion that announcements should be timed to attract the maximum revenue from fans, when following a football club already accounts for such a high percentage of their disposable income, seems like an inappropriate marketing strategy for this market sector. Marketing is not a one size fits all strategy.
Not only is it inappropriate, it's actually pretty cynical and is indicative of a very poor understanding of what the relationship between a football club and its fans should ideally be. How much more do we need to be rinsed? It's disrespectful and ultimately counterproductive.
The marketing comms strategy should be repaying the fans' loyalty and their major financial and emotional investment in QPR by making our news channels the most trustworthy and reliable source of breaking news about the club.
Maybe things will change one day but currently, we're a million miles away from that. |
Fair play to you R from afar this is the first reasonable and rational post in response. To question whether the clubs PR strategy is the right approach. I agree that's a fair question to raise and I do think they have gone too far one way to the point they have aggravated those addicted to constant updates. Even if it's week before preseason even starts
The part of this thread that lead to so many getting all upset with me begun with me responding to Simmo's opinion that it was either "apathy" or an intention to "disrespect" fans that drove the clubs PR strategy. I believe that opinion to be total nonsense and gave my reasons for that view. Only your post here was a reasonable and rational approach of why they should do a different approach
But the main thing for me is even if it's misguided. The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect
On the various people accusing me of being a paid PR person I will take as a compliment. But I am not and if you believe that then you literally are a conspiracy theorist because that is a conspiracy theory. It is not true
It's clearly upsetting for some that someone holds a different view to the group think and it's even more distressing when credible points are made. I haven't until just now a credible rebuttal in any of the lengthy posts in response although I do particularly enjoy Baz popping in now and then with a one liner of provable nonsense about Errea being as big a company as Nike or our pitch not being smaller than average
Also enjoyed Dave B tells me that we had our highest average attendance since the Premiership years in the season that Gareth Ainsworth was our manager because it was "exciting" and that in the season we begun with our worst without a win at home ever our crowds were higher because the fans believed we "were on the up". Personally I'm not convinced by that theory though | | | |
| Manager situation on 17:06 - Jun 11 with 1960 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Manager situation on 16:55 - Jun 11 by Beans |
Fair play to you R from afar this is the first reasonable and rational post in response. To question whether the clubs PR strategy is the right approach. I agree that's a fair question to raise and I do think they have gone too far one way to the point they have aggravated those addicted to constant updates. Even if it's week before preseason even starts
The part of this thread that lead to so many getting all upset with me begun with me responding to Simmo's opinion that it was either "apathy" or an intention to "disrespect" fans that drove the clubs PR strategy. I believe that opinion to be total nonsense and gave my reasons for that view. Only your post here was a reasonable and rational approach of why they should do a different approach
But the main thing for me is even if it's misguided. The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect
On the various people accusing me of being a paid PR person I will take as a compliment. But I am not and if you believe that then you literally are a conspiracy theorist because that is a conspiracy theory. It is not true
It's clearly upsetting for some that someone holds a different view to the group think and it's even more distressing when credible points are made. I haven't until just now a credible rebuttal in any of the lengthy posts in response although I do particularly enjoy Baz popping in now and then with a one liner of provable nonsense about Errea being as big a company as Nike or our pitch not being smaller than average
Also enjoyed Dave B tells me that we had our highest average attendance since the Premiership years in the season that Gareth Ainsworth was our manager because it was "exciting" and that in the season we begun with our worst without a win at home ever our crowds were higher because the fans believed we "were on the up". Personally I'm not convinced by that theory though |
Why do you put apostrophes in players’ surnames when they end with an S? |  | | |
| Manager situation on 17:06 - Jun 11 with 1954 views | Northernr |
"LFW group think"
"Critical thinking"
Starting to ring a few bells this. | | | |
| Manager situation on 17:07 - Jun 11 with 1945 views | BklynRanger |
| Manager situation on 16:55 - Jun 11 by Beans |
Fair play to you R from afar this is the first reasonable and rational post in response. To question whether the clubs PR strategy is the right approach. I agree that's a fair question to raise and I do think they have gone too far one way to the point they have aggravated those addicted to constant updates. Even if it's week before preseason even starts
The part of this thread that lead to so many getting all upset with me begun with me responding to Simmo's opinion that it was either "apathy" or an intention to "disrespect" fans that drove the clubs PR strategy. I believe that opinion to be total nonsense and gave my reasons for that view. Only your post here was a reasonable and rational approach of why they should do a different approach
But the main thing for me is even if it's misguided. The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect
On the various people accusing me of being a paid PR person I will take as a compliment. But I am not and if you believe that then you literally are a conspiracy theorist because that is a conspiracy theory. It is not true
It's clearly upsetting for some that someone holds a different view to the group think and it's even more distressing when credible points are made. I haven't until just now a credible rebuttal in any of the lengthy posts in response although I do particularly enjoy Baz popping in now and then with a one liner of provable nonsense about Errea being as big a company as Nike or our pitch not being smaller than average
Also enjoyed Dave B tells me that we had our highest average attendance since the Premiership years in the season that Gareth Ainsworth was our manager because it was "exciting" and that in the season we begun with our worst without a win at home ever our crowds were higher because the fans believed we "were on the up". Personally I'm not convinced by that theory though |
Can't you just piss off and metamorphose into whatever username you're planning on next?
Usually only takes 10 days or so but it's something. | | | |
| Manager situation on 17:14 - Jun 11 with 1866 views | R_from_afar |
| Manager situation on 16:55 - Jun 11 by Beans |
Fair play to you R from afar this is the first reasonable and rational post in response. To question whether the clubs PR strategy is the right approach. I agree that's a fair question to raise and I do think they have gone too far one way to the point they have aggravated those addicted to constant updates. Even if it's week before preseason even starts
The part of this thread that lead to so many getting all upset with me begun with me responding to Simmo's opinion that it was either "apathy" or an intention to "disrespect" fans that drove the clubs PR strategy. I believe that opinion to be total nonsense and gave my reasons for that view. Only your post here was a reasonable and rational approach of why they should do a different approach
But the main thing for me is even if it's misguided. The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect
On the various people accusing me of being a paid PR person I will take as a compliment. But I am not and if you believe that then you literally are a conspiracy theorist because that is a conspiracy theory. It is not true
It's clearly upsetting for some that someone holds a different view to the group think and it's even more distressing when credible points are made. I haven't until just now a credible rebuttal in any of the lengthy posts in response although I do particularly enjoy Baz popping in now and then with a one liner of provable nonsense about Errea being as big a company as Nike or our pitch not being smaller than average
Also enjoyed Dave B tells me that we had our highest average attendance since the Premiership years in the season that Gareth Ainsworth was our manager because it was "exciting" and that in the season we begun with our worst without a win at home ever our crowds were higher because the fans believed we "were on the up". Personally I'm not convinced by that theory though |
Sincerely, thank you for the compliments.
This statement is troubling, though, you're positioning it as factual, rather than supposition. How could you know this?
"The clubs PR strategy is not driven by apathy or an intention to disrespect". | |
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| Manager situation on 17:22 - Jun 11 with 1779 views | BklynRanger |
| Manager situation on 17:06 - Jun 11 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Why do you put apostrophes in players’ surnames when they end with an S? |
I think that's one for the server farms in Arizona | | | |
| Manager situation on 17:23 - Jun 11 with 1760 views | Loyalitat |
| Manager situation on 17:06 - Jun 11 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Why do you put apostrophes in players’ surnames when they end with an S? |
This person is the self-appointed omniscient one. How dare you draw attention to any of his many faux pas. [Post edited 11 Jun 18:01]
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| Manager situation on 17:27 - Jun 11 with 1712 views | numptydumpty |
| Manager situation on 17:06 - Jun 11 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Why do you put apostrophes in players’ surnames when they end with an S? |
Proof reading w**k*r !!!!
Anyhow Padula you know I have issues with my exclamation marks !!!!!
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