| What have learned ? 20:35 - Aug 2 with 11503 views | connell10 |
From our friendlies? Well I'd say we need to get our strikers fit ASAP. |  |
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| What have learned ? on 08:06 - Aug 3 with 2023 views | EuroRanger |
| What have learned ? on 03:10 - Aug 3 by numptydumpty |
Crikey.
You lot are a miserable bunch.
Pre season friendlies have no bearing on the season ahead. However, we have been ok.
Yesterday for 89 minutes we held a team that was top eight in the prem last season and without any of our four, soon to be five, centre forwards.
Walsh had an excellent game and in Nardi, we now have two decent keepers. Larkeche and Adamson put in committed performances at full back. Morrison was excellent. Field and Dunne showed their abilities. Varane had an encouraging run out. Poku, Dembele and Chair showed glimpses of their qualities. Sutton and Bennie are improving from last season.
The last two seasons, we have won two and one of our first sixteen games. Trust me, we are far improved on that.
Some predicting relegation. Seriously, dont bother turning up or watching and supporting you miserable lot. Apart from one totally forgettable game, we have been competitive in every game. Some saying its worse than the Ainsworth season ahead. It truly is not, can assure of that Some already writing off the new manager. Oh my days.....
We are Doomed - I tell you !!!!!
Doomed !!!!!!
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here....
One season we went into battle with only Armstrong and Dykes as our centre forwards. We had Dozzell, Laird, Richards, Roberts, Sanderson within our ranks. Armstrong was our only youth prospect. Willock was one of only two x factors up top. But really.
Dont panic. Dont panic. Take a deep, deep breath.
AND BREATHE !!!!
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I feel like we as QPR fans immediately expect the worst đ
I think there's a decent core here, but it needs filling out. I'm still now as down on Larkeche as most, and think that while he isn't an immediate improvement on Paal, he's got more potential. Yesterday he looked pretty good (despite being cooked for the goal, but I don't think we'd find a single Champ LB who'd have stood up to that turn of pace) and while his positioning is suspect it's coachable. I'm more worried about going in with Adamson as a RB backup because while he showed flashes of promise yesterday, it's a big step up from the A-League. I'd have preferred to have given him more time to bed in before throwing him into a full champ season.
The midfield is still too static but signs from Madsen are good. We need more depth and bite here though. We looked much better with Varane in the team yesterday, so hopefully he steps in against Preston. We need more though.
The Nardi / Walsh situation makes sense financially but feels tough on Nardi, who was good last season. If there was a club coming in for Nardi I'd have let him go rather than doing this to him, but in that instance we would have needed to keep Cooper.
We NEED a recognised striker, preferably a 9. Yesterday we saw again that we can't beat the press without someone who can hold the ball up. Frey is a must for this team which is worrying due to his history, so I hope the club have another signing up their sleeves. Was disappointed not to see Burrell yesterday.
All in all I'm not immediately panicking but we need some signings and I think anyone who expected us to suddenly be a top-half team is a little optimistic. I think it'll be another season from 15th-18th, depending on new signings. The core is starting to come together though, and I like a couple of the DS players starting to step in (Sutton especially). |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 08:19 - Aug 3 with 1952 views | stevec |
| What have learned ? on 02:39 - Aug 3 by lordflashhart |
Nt a great showing from the game today. I was more concerned or maybe confused, about something Dembele said in the training video. At the 4-minute 35-second mark, he mentions that the training was absolute chaos. It didn't look like a positive comment. Have a look and decide for yourself. Perhaps I'm reading too much into something that isn't there. |
Hard to say for certain but it did look a bit like one those lunchtime playground matches on a day where the whole class seems to have turned up.
Three league one signings to date, six or seven winnable games in a relatively light first ten games yet we look totally unprepared. If we make a mess of this early run then starting to think this will be the season we run out of luck. |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 08:26 - Aug 3 with 1910 views | A40Bosh |
16th. |  |
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| What have learned ? on 08:53 - Aug 3 with 1830 views | Spaceman_P |
Yeah I don't really get what they're doing to or with Nardi at the moment.
Seems they're messing him about a bit. |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 08:55 - Aug 3 with 1817 views | gazza1 |
The Manager worries me...... | | | |
| What have learned ? on 09:50 - Aug 3 with 1676 views | Gloucs_R |
| What have learned ? on 08:55 - Aug 3 by gazza1 |
The Manager worries me...... |
Why |  |
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| What have learned ? on 09:53 - Aug 3 with 1670 views | Match82 |
| What have learned ? on 00:10 - Aug 3 by loftus77 |
Absolutely this. Ten league games, we must (must) win 4 (FOUR) of them.
Doesn't really matter against who though I guess Preston (H), Oxford (H) Charlton (H) and Stoke (H) would be 'helpful'.
Why 4? Because 12pts from 10 games with several wins on the board keeps us away from the bottom 3 as the 25/26 table forms up. And, given everything that has happened since April, (no need to amplify) that is vital - for Nourry, the Board, the Coach, the whole club.
4+ wins would obvs. be fantastic but our own decisions/actions mean the club needs those 4 wins after a 'mixed' (...). pre-season. Somehow. |
I'd like 10 points on the board after 10 games, don't really care how that comes but we'd be out of the drop zone comfortably with that total |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 09:58 - Aug 3 with 1638 views | Match82 |
| What have learned ? on 09:53 - Aug 3 by Match82 |
I'd like 10 points on the board after 10 games, don't really care how that comes but we'd be out of the drop zone comfortably with that total |
Comfortably might be a stretch. But it'd be 2 points above the relegation in each of the last two seasons. And above where we were last two seasons after 10 games too | | | |
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| What have learned ? on 09:58 - Aug 3 with 1638 views | Northernr |
That a team which had known issues at FB, CM and CF still has issues at FB, CM and CF having spent the summer so far doing nothing to address its known issues at FB, CM and CF. |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 09:58 - Aug 3 with 1636 views | gazza1 |
| What have learned ? on 09:50 - Aug 3 by Gloucs_R |
Why |
The teams he selects, the positions he plays some of the players, the tactics he uses, he smiles and jokes far too much and so on.
Too early to judge atm but it concerns me......nothing but a win will keep me onside against PNE. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 10:12 - Aug 3 with 1573 views | colinallcars |
| What have learned ? on 08:53 - Aug 3 by Spaceman_P |
Yeah I don't really get what they're doing to or with Nardi at the moment.
Seems they're messing him about a bit. |
I suppose goalie is the least of our probs at the moment.
Napoleon said we're a nation of goalkeepers. |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 10:42 - Aug 3 with 1466 views | Burnleyhoop |
| What have learned ? on 22:26 - Aug 2 by StreathamRanger |
I think that's a bit pessimistic. Realistically we're two or three signings away from being competitive. A left back, a hard man in centre mid and a striker.
We've got two decent keepers, one of the best right backs in the league, at least one quality CB in Morrison with others with decent potential, two very good CMs in Field and Varane (one more needed although Vale looks like he might have something about him and I've not totally given up on Madsen yet) and a good bunch of skillful forward players (Chair, Poku, Dembele, Kolli). For the first time in a long while we have some half decent young players who, if handled correctly could go on to play in the first team.
We haven't seen our new striker yet (bit odd he didn't get ten minutes today to show us what we might be able to expect) and reports suggest we have another one incoming. Frey's fitness is a concern but he should still be good for 15-20 games. Maybe a case of horses for courses and careful rotation of strikers.
I certainly don't think we're going to be troubling the top six but I'm also not going to sh#t the bed before we've even played one league match.
The drawn out Eze transfer saga isn't helping as we can't be sure whether we've got nothing to spend or a decent amount.
It's only the Championship, not the champions League and I bet half the teams in the division are saying their preseason has been poor and they look like relegation candidates. Only three can go down and surely Wednesday take one of those spots. I think we'll be okay. [Post edited 2 Aug 22:28]
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Itâs definitely a case of those with a glass half full or half empty situation.
We have played pretty much the entire pre-season without a striker and it has shown. Chair charging around up front is absolutely not what he should be doing. We have brought in Burrell, but he didnât get any minutes yesterday despite him having a full pre-season with Burton. Concerning. Ba is waiting for clearance. JCS is apparently being treated for bed sores.
Varane is back, but not likely to be fully fit. We definitely need another CM as Morgan does not yet have the required physicality and stamina. He was done by 60 mins yesterday and making all sorts of mistakes.
Larkeche will be given 10 games to see how he goes. Jury still out, but I suspect he will be left out to dry by Dembele who will not provide him with much defensive cover.
Player availability, or lack thereof, will determine how we fare this season, but I expect us to be generally better than last season, although the loss of Edwardâs has weakened us defensively.
Plenty of promise from the youngsters, but they have a long way to go to be considered reliable first team players.
Predict a bumpy start to the season until we can actually field our strongest eleven. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 10:54 - Aug 3 with 1410 views | Lblock |
| What have learned ? on 00:10 - Aug 3 by loftus77 |
Absolutely this. Ten league games, we must (must) win 4 (FOUR) of them.
Doesn't really matter against who though I guess Preston (H), Oxford (H) Charlton (H) and Stoke (H) would be 'helpful'.
Why 4? Because 12pts from 10 games with several wins on the board keeps us away from the bottom 3 as the 25/26 table forms up. And, given everything that has happened since April, (no need to amplify) that is vital - for Nourry, the Board, the Coach, the whole club.
4+ wins would obvs. be fantastic but our own decisions/actions mean the club needs those 4 wins after a 'mixed' (...). pre-season. Somehow. |
âMust winâ you sayâŚâŚ. Mmmmmmmmmm
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| What have learned ? on 11:03 - Aug 3 with 1359 views | Northernr |
| What have learned ? on 10:42 - Aug 3 by Burnleyhoop |
Itâs definitely a case of those with a glass half full or half empty situation.
We have played pretty much the entire pre-season without a striker and it has shown. Chair charging around up front is absolutely not what he should be doing. We have brought in Burrell, but he didnât get any minutes yesterday despite him having a full pre-season with Burton. Concerning. Ba is waiting for clearance. JCS is apparently being treated for bed sores.
Varane is back, but not likely to be fully fit. We definitely need another CM as Morgan does not yet have the required physicality and stamina. He was done by 60 mins yesterday and making all sorts of mistakes.
Larkeche will be given 10 games to see how he goes. Jury still out, but I suspect he will be left out to dry by Dembele who will not provide him with much defensive cover.
Player availability, or lack thereof, will determine how we fare this season, but I expect us to be generally better than last season, although the loss of Edwardâs has weakened us defensively.
Plenty of promise from the youngsters, but they have a long way to go to be considered reliable first team players.
Predict a bumpy start to the season until we can actually field our strongest eleven. |
Very strange not to get some minutes into Burrell yesterday.
Is he actually thinking of starting the midget army up front? | | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:04 - Aug 3 with 1348 views | stevec |
| What have learned ? on 09:58 - Aug 3 by Northernr |
That a team which had known issues at FB, CM and CF still has issues at FB, CM and CF having spent the summer so far doing nothing to address its known issues at FB, CM and CF. |
Itâs really disturbing.
If we keep approaching this sport in an unprofessional manner, in effect almost inviting it to go wrong, at some point the match day crowd are going to have had enough. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:08 - Aug 3 with 1326 views | JamesB1979 |
| What have learned ? on 11:03 - Aug 3 by Northernr |
Very strange not to get some minutes into Burrell yesterday.
Is he actually thinking of starting the midget army up front? |
I guess not playing a striker is one way to address our striker issue.
Why didnât Burrell play a few minutes? Where is Kolli? He seemed to be training? Lloyd seems to be around the squad too. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:42 - Aug 3 with 1265 views | rbee |
| What have learned ? on 11:03 - Aug 3 by Northernr |
Very strange not to get some minutes into Burrell yesterday.
Is he actually thinking of starting the midget army up front? |
Perhaps they didn't want to give Preston any clues about Burrell. |  | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:45 - Aug 3 with 1242 views | Rangersw12 |
Also learnt that out injuries are showing no signs of slowing down
Anyone know what's happened to Smyth ? | | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:57 - Aug 3 with 1175 views | johnhoop |
| What have learned ? on 11:42 - Aug 3 by rbee |
Perhaps they didn't want to give Preston any clues about Burrell. |
In case it gave them a âcompetitive advantageâ? | | | |
| What have learned ? on 11:57 - Aug 3 with 1174 views | Northernr |
| What have learned ? on 11:42 - Aug 3 by rbee |
Perhaps they didn't want to give Preston any clues about Burrell. |
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| What have learned ? on 12:04 - Aug 3 with 1136 views | kernowhoop |
What did we learn?
Most of it has been said, but, a word for Dembele. He may not have much of an impact when required to defend, but, as an attacker, he looked as good as anything Brentford had to offer. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 12:14 - Aug 3 with 1083 views | Burnleyhoop |
| What have learned ? on 11:03 - Aug 3 by Northernr |
Very strange not to get some minutes into Burrell yesterday.
Is he actually thinking of starting the midget army up front? |
What would be the point against a notoriously physical Preston side? Our midgets could hurt them if we played through midfield with plenty of movement and support, but I canât see Madsen and Morgan standing up to their physicality. We still have a tendency to go backwards and return the ball to the keeper who then hoofs it up to the midgets. Pointless.
Might have a chance with Varane and perhaps Vale in there, but if he goes with yesterdayâs line up and formation, I think we are in trouble. I
I hope Stephan has done his homework. The game plan will have to be a good one and certainly different to anything seen in pre-season. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 12:17 - Aug 3 with 1059 views | QPR_Hibs |
| What have learned ? on 11:42 - Aug 3 by rbee |
Perhaps they didn't want to give Preston any clues about Burrell. |
Yeah, cos Preston definitely won't be able to watch any of Burton's games from last season. |  |
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| What have learned ? on 12:35 - Aug 3 with 960 views | 7374Ranger |
| What have learned ? on 10:42 - Aug 3 by Burnleyhoop |
Itâs definitely a case of those with a glass half full or half empty situation.
We have played pretty much the entire pre-season without a striker and it has shown. Chair charging around up front is absolutely not what he should be doing. We have brought in Burrell, but he didnât get any minutes yesterday despite him having a full pre-season with Burton. Concerning. Ba is waiting for clearance. JCS is apparently being treated for bed sores.
Varane is back, but not likely to be fully fit. We definitely need another CM as Morgan does not yet have the required physicality and stamina. He was done by 60 mins yesterday and making all sorts of mistakes.
Larkeche will be given 10 games to see how he goes. Jury still out, but I suspect he will be left out to dry by Dembele who will not provide him with much defensive cover.
Player availability, or lack thereof, will determine how we fare this season, but I expect us to be generally better than last season, although the loss of Edwardâs has weakened us defensively.
Plenty of promise from the youngsters, but they have a long way to go to be considered reliable first team players.
Predict a bumpy start to the season until we can actually field our strongest eleven. |
Re larkeche not getting much help from Dembele, I suggest trying to bring Saito back, or playing Smyth instead of the latter.
Either that, or sign a more reliable left back.
We have learnt next to nothing it seems because the CM and CF weaknesses have not been addressed either.
Another lower bottom half season is almost certain unless some transfers are made over the next 4 weeks. | | | |
| What have learned ? on 12:35 - Aug 3 with 956 views | connell10 |
Well hopefully Marti wasn't performing miracles by keep this team up last season , because if he was the new coach has a big challenge on his hands. He must hit the ground running or things could change very quickly! | |
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