| Julien Stéphan 16:28 - Aug 23 with 9495 views | ted_hendrix |
I don't know what to say, do you? |  |
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| Julien Stéphan on 19:10 - Aug 23 with 1696 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Just watching his post-match interview. To be fair to him, he's correct that Charlton is a completely different game. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:11 - Aug 23 with 1712 views | essextaxiboy |
| Julien Stéphan on 18:28 - Aug 23 by Harbour |
Marti could manage to get a tune out of the squad it’s early days but I am getting the feeling Stéphan is not up to it. To be fair the squad is deficient and injuries not helping but at the end of the day the defending is like Sunday league level and that is down to him. |
But the fact that he is there at all after the farce of Martis departure is down to Nourry. I happen to think that he may do OK without interference but we won't find out because he will end up gardening |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:21 - Aug 23 with 1616 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:07 - Aug 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
But, isn't the point you make about CN not being a football man exactly why you have Steve Bould, De Souza, Kevin Betsy, etc, in those positions?
They have years of experience within football at higher levels than QPR. Isn't that a good thing?
Hoos was given dogs abuse on this forum. Now, he should step in. Why would he?
And if Nourry picks the team, then bar Mbengue, nobody seemed to worried about it before KO.
Signings CN makes, and again, everyone was happy with Kone, Mbengue, etc.
Maybe the coach just got it badly wrong today. |
Except that can't be 'it', can it?
For a team to be so outclassed in a league match, for 90 minutes, there is a lot, lot more wrong than just how the coach set it up.
The players are completely unfit - most of them injured, several not 'match fit' and some out there cramping up in the first half and in both calves after 80 mins.
They weren't second to everything today, they were about 6th/7th to everything. At one point Cook won a header from a goal kick and there were 4 Coventry players closer to the loose ball than the nearest QPR player... Who was walking / light jogging.
In addition to that and more subjectively, you have to wonder how happy this squad is with their coach / club. The body language throughout the entire team today was essentially non-existent. They didn't really look like the were hurting, just that they couldn't be bothered to play the rest of the game the second the second goal went in.
I don't know why it is or who is accountable... But it's looking to me like there is something rotten at QPR that is undermining anything technical or tactical we may try to implement.
Basically... it's fu<ked. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:22 - Aug 23 with 1599 views | essextaxiboy |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:07 - Aug 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
But, isn't the point you make about CN not being a football man exactly why you have Steve Bould, De Souza, Kevin Betsy, etc, in those positions?
They have years of experience within football at higher levels than QPR. Isn't that a good thing?
Hoos was given dogs abuse on this forum. Now, he should step in. Why would he?
And if Nourry picks the team, then bar Mbengue, nobody seemed to worried about it before KO.
Signings CN makes, and again, everyone was happy with Kone, Mbengue, etc.
Maybe the coach just got it badly wrong today. |
Nourry has lost the dressing room iMO ,
They have worked out who is calling the shots and aren't playing for him . | | | |
| Julien Stéphan (n/t) on 19:23 - Aug 23 with 1568 views | ted_hendrix |
Thanks for posting that, bit of an eye opener and throws a different light on It. | |
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| Julien Stéphan on 19:27 - Aug 23 with 1505 views | ted_hendrix |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:21 - Aug 23 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Except that can't be 'it', can it?
For a team to be so outclassed in a league match, for 90 minutes, there is a lot, lot more wrong than just how the coach set it up.
The players are completely unfit - most of them injured, several not 'match fit' and some out there cramping up in the first half and in both calves after 80 mins.
They weren't second to everything today, they were about 6th/7th to everything. At one point Cook won a header from a goal kick and there were 4 Coventry players closer to the loose ball than the nearest QPR player... Who was walking / light jogging.
In addition to that and more subjectively, you have to wonder how happy this squad is with their coach / club. The body language throughout the entire team today was essentially non-existent. They didn't really look like the were hurting, just that they couldn't be bothered to play the rest of the game the second the second goal went in.
I don't know why it is or who is accountable... But it's looking to me like there is something rotten at QPR that is undermining anything technical or tactical we may try to implement.
Basically... it's fu<ked. |
We've regressed. | |
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| Julien Stéphan on 19:29 - Aug 23 with 1479 views | numptydumpty |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:07 - Aug 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
But, isn't the point you make about CN not being a football man exactly why you have Steve Bould, De Souza, Kevin Betsy, etc, in those positions?
They have years of experience within football at higher levels than QPR. Isn't that a good thing?
Hoos was given dogs abuse on this forum. Now, he should step in. Why would he?
And if Nourry picks the team, then bar Mbengue, nobody seemed to worried about it before KO.
Signings CN makes, and again, everyone was happy with Kone, Mbengue, etc.
Maybe the coach just got it badly wrong today. |
Who said no one was worried about the team picked
I have been throughout and the injuries have been questioned by almost everyone
There is no way this can be acceptable |  |
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| Julien Stéphan on 19:36 - Aug 23 with 1407 views | Gloucs_R |
Sack Nourry, Back Marti....
Just saying..... |  |
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| Julien Stéphan on 19:42 - Aug 23 with 1359 views | baz_qpr |
I thought there was a consensus that we should play 3 in midfield and that would be Varane, Field and Morgan all of whom were terrible today. I think the only contensious pick today was Cook ahead of mbengue.
We've had a league cup game which we threw away by playing 16 year olds a poor half at Watford and an absolute tanking today and everyone is calling for half the clubs head
The reaction is batshit. Yes if we are on the end of a few more or there is no improvement in the next month or two fair dos but this is so over the top. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:43 - Aug 23 with 1352 views | Hunterhoop |
| Julien Stéphan on 18:12 - Aug 23 by ted_hendrix |
Showing my Ignorance here but how do you know these are facts?
**Set Piece Coach reports to Nourry, not Stephan.** surely not?
**Game model, which means the formation and approach, is set by Nourry. Nourry was the one who spent ages at the fans forum talking formations…not Nourry.** I don't understand that statement at all?
I hate to be a pain but you've got me scratching my head thinking surely not. |
Ted, you and I have been on this board for a long time. Over 25 years for me. I remember your son, Charlie, on here, road dog (gave me a load of classic rock compilations), obviously Rob and Simon (even wrote for them for a bit on QPR.net), and more. I’ve been around the block and am not posting on nonsense for the sake of it.
Everything I posted (bar Steve Bould’s reporting line which I’m not sure on) is public knowledge. The job advert for the set piece coach was publicly available (Clive has linked to it). Nourry has confirmed publicly over the past 20 odd months those reporting lines. Some of the individuals themselves have confirmed it too.
This is our approach, determined and implemented by Nourry.
The “game model” was his much vaunted idea to have one formation and style of play across all age groups up to the first team to aid progression. He decided what it was to be, not Cifuentes. It involves playing out from the back. Last season, at the start of the season, it had its first outing. We won 2 in 17. Nourry wanted to sack Cifuentes but Ruben stepped in and prevented him. Cifuentes was given the ability to flex from the game model a bit. We went more pragmatic and ran up the league. Towards the end of the season we reverted to the game model and struggled. I don’t know whose choice that was, but given what had gone before and what went on at the end of the season, I can hazard a guess.
Either way, Nourry set the game model and the game model includes the formation and style of play. This season, we are back to the game model and playing out.
Stephan in one of his first interviews actually said “the club have hired me to have the team play a set way.” He is eyes wide open but he is following orders.
I know about the Walsh decision because a friend was told by a family friend of Walsh and this was before any pre season matches. Did Stephan really arrive and within a week decide to ditch last season’s first team keeper? I doubt it.
I have no doubt in the next week they’ll be a strong narrative pushed that the issue is how Stephan is setting up the team, that it is his call, etc, but it is baloney. He has nothing to do with signings and our signings (our army of wingers and 10s) are to play the game model.
Stephan has nothing to do with the fitness of the players. Little more than you or I. That is Ben Williams, who was recommended to the club by Nourry when he was at Retexo and before he became CEO. Williams reports to Nourry in his new, larger, broad remit of “Sporting Operations”.
It has all been made public before.
I know following Rangers this last decade has been trying at best and absolutely sh*te at worst. I know for the more experienced fan it has been easy to zone out, not pay too much close attention, and let it wash over you.
But everything I posted has been public knowledge if you look and listen closely enough.
Nourry and Williams (and Hoos) are the problem. Stephan might be a bad coach or a good coach; we don’t know yet and we may never find out.
Most of knew we had a very good manager in Cifuentes. The decision to axe him was Nourry’s and Nourry’s alone (they couldn’t stand each other). He has to own what comes next. Nobody else.
Ruben needs to act, and act quickly. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:47 - Aug 23 with 1291 views | DannytheR |
The manager's clearly not very good, but it's Nourry and everything he brings with him that is even more clearly going to get us relegated. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:49 - Aug 23 with 1276 views | essextaxiboy |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:43 - Aug 23 by Hunterhoop |
Ted, you and I have been on this board for a long time. Over 25 years for me. I remember your son, Charlie, on here, road dog (gave me a load of classic rock compilations), obviously Rob and Simon (even wrote for them for a bit on QPR.net), and more. I’ve been around the block and am not posting on nonsense for the sake of it.
Everything I posted (bar Steve Bould’s reporting line which I’m not sure on) is public knowledge. The job advert for the set piece coach was publicly available (Clive has linked to it). Nourry has confirmed publicly over the past 20 odd months those reporting lines. Some of the individuals themselves have confirmed it too.
This is our approach, determined and implemented by Nourry.
The “game model” was his much vaunted idea to have one formation and style of play across all age groups up to the first team to aid progression. He decided what it was to be, not Cifuentes. It involves playing out from the back. Last season, at the start of the season, it had its first outing. We won 2 in 17. Nourry wanted to sack Cifuentes but Ruben stepped in and prevented him. Cifuentes was given the ability to flex from the game model a bit. We went more pragmatic and ran up the league. Towards the end of the season we reverted to the game model and struggled. I don’t know whose choice that was, but given what had gone before and what went on at the end of the season, I can hazard a guess.
Either way, Nourry set the game model and the game model includes the formation and style of play. This season, we are back to the game model and playing out.
Stephan in one of his first interviews actually said “the club have hired me to have the team play a set way.” He is eyes wide open but he is following orders.
I know about the Walsh decision because a friend was told by a family friend of Walsh and this was before any pre season matches. Did Stephan really arrive and within a week decide to ditch last season’s first team keeper? I doubt it.
I have no doubt in the next week they’ll be a strong narrative pushed that the issue is how Stephan is setting up the team, that it is his call, etc, but it is baloney. He has nothing to do with signings and our signings (our army of wingers and 10s) are to play the game model.
Stephan has nothing to do with the fitness of the players. Little more than you or I. That is Ben Williams, who was recommended to the club by Nourry when he was at Retexo and before he became CEO. Williams reports to Nourry in his new, larger, broad remit of “Sporting Operations”.
It has all been made public before.
I know following Rangers this last decade has been trying at best and absolutely sh*te at worst. I know for the more experienced fan it has been easy to zone out, not pay too much close attention, and let it wash over you.
But everything I posted has been public knowledge if you look and listen closely enough.
Nourry and Williams (and Hoos) are the problem. Stephan might be a bad coach or a good coach; we don’t know yet and we may never find out.
Most of knew we had a very good manager in Cifuentes. The decision to axe him was Nourry’s and Nourry’s alone (they couldn’t stand each other). He has to own what comes next. Nobody else.
Ruben needs to act, and act quickly. |
Brilliant post | | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:04 - Aug 23 with 1165 views | dmm |
A small thing, but we have a head of set pieces? Really?! |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan (n/t) on 20:05 - Aug 23 with 1164 views | Harbour |
| Julien Stéphan (n/t) on 19:23 - Aug 23 by ted_hendrix |
Thanks for posting that, bit of an eye opener and throws a different light on It. |
Yes Nourry to sack Bould as defence coach of a team that has conceded 13 goals in 4 games…rather bizarre defence coach reports to the CEO not the coach. As CN hired SB it’s down to him.. | | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:06 - Aug 23 with 1154 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:43 - Aug 23 by Hunterhoop |
Ted, you and I have been on this board for a long time. Over 25 years for me. I remember your son, Charlie, on here, road dog (gave me a load of classic rock compilations), obviously Rob and Simon (even wrote for them for a bit on QPR.net), and more. I’ve been around the block and am not posting on nonsense for the sake of it.
Everything I posted (bar Steve Bould’s reporting line which I’m not sure on) is public knowledge. The job advert for the set piece coach was publicly available (Clive has linked to it). Nourry has confirmed publicly over the past 20 odd months those reporting lines. Some of the individuals themselves have confirmed it too.
This is our approach, determined and implemented by Nourry.
The “game model” was his much vaunted idea to have one formation and style of play across all age groups up to the first team to aid progression. He decided what it was to be, not Cifuentes. It involves playing out from the back. Last season, at the start of the season, it had its first outing. We won 2 in 17. Nourry wanted to sack Cifuentes but Ruben stepped in and prevented him. Cifuentes was given the ability to flex from the game model a bit. We went more pragmatic and ran up the league. Towards the end of the season we reverted to the game model and struggled. I don’t know whose choice that was, but given what had gone before and what went on at the end of the season, I can hazard a guess.
Either way, Nourry set the game model and the game model includes the formation and style of play. This season, we are back to the game model and playing out.
Stephan in one of his first interviews actually said “the club have hired me to have the team play a set way.” He is eyes wide open but he is following orders.
I know about the Walsh decision because a friend was told by a family friend of Walsh and this was before any pre season matches. Did Stephan really arrive and within a week decide to ditch last season’s first team keeper? I doubt it.
I have no doubt in the next week they’ll be a strong narrative pushed that the issue is how Stephan is setting up the team, that it is his call, etc, but it is baloney. He has nothing to do with signings and our signings (our army of wingers and 10s) are to play the game model.
Stephan has nothing to do with the fitness of the players. Little more than you or I. That is Ben Williams, who was recommended to the club by Nourry when he was at Retexo and before he became CEO. Williams reports to Nourry in his new, larger, broad remit of “Sporting Operations”.
It has all been made public before.
I know following Rangers this last decade has been trying at best and absolutely sh*te at worst. I know for the more experienced fan it has been easy to zone out, not pay too much close attention, and let it wash over you.
But everything I posted has been public knowledge if you look and listen closely enough.
Nourry and Williams (and Hoos) are the problem. Stephan might be a bad coach or a good coach; we don’t know yet and we may never find out.
Most of knew we had a very good manager in Cifuentes. The decision to axe him was Nourry’s and Nourry’s alone (they couldn’t stand each other). He has to own what comes next. Nobody else.
Ruben needs to act, and act quickly. |
Excellent post. All seems pretty much bang on to me.
As to your conclusion, I'm with you there too. Rueben should be on the phone to Nourry tonight telling him to clear his desk tomorrow | | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:07 - Aug 23 with 1143 views | baz_qpr |
Just a point of order on Marti. Regardless of his relationship with Nourry he was always going at the end of the season. QPR was a stepping stone, if he did well he would be picked up by another club if he did badly he would be replaced. Do you really think if Marti and Nourry had been best buddies and Leicester had come calling that he would not have gone?
Oh and I watched Leicester v Charlton today and Leicester played exactly the same way as we did at the start of last season, same routines same issues in midfield and Julien set up today just as Marti would have mid season in a more pragmatic 4-3-3. Truth is Varane, Field and Morgan were out worked and out played and well off the pace.
I'm sorry but some of this is boarding on conspiracy theory stuff. There is a framework (call it game model) and the purpose of that framework is to enable the club to trade upwards to be able to compete and you can't do that playing kick and rush counter attack or long ball. I get it. I get having all the junior sides set up the same way and recruiting players for that set up. I get having development coaches and a set piece coach working across multiple teams and ages
If someone 2 years ago came to us with this as the written strategy whilst we are watching Jimmy Dunne punt a long ball over the head of Lyndon Dykes under Ainsworth you would say absolutely that is what we should do.
There is no evidence Nourry is picking the team. You might argue the Joe Walsh selection truth is we dont know, we dont know if it's the goalkeeping coaches, the development coaches, Stephan, Nourry, Belk or a combination or committee. It's pure speculation. The argument for Walsh is if not when. The answer may be we find he is not up to it as it was with Lumley. But let's be honest Nardi had a pretty poor 2nd half of the season and his lack of command of the box has cost us, so you could make a case for it.
The fitness side however is a huge error and a big big part of our problem and what happened today The difference in our ability to get up the field with Kone on or as with last season with Frey is massive. | | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:08 - Aug 23 with 1116 views | NorthantsHoop |
Really if he we lose to Charlton, he's in trouble. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:09 - Aug 23 with 1093 views | Pdog |
The problem with this strategy of young 'appreciating asset' ballers is simple: we sell them the project of us as their stepping stone to the prem, but when shit hits the fan, they don’t know how to handle it, don’t have anyone to lean on, or they just care 5% less as long as they’ve stuck one in top bins for the agent’s highlight reel. Im alright Jack..
If that means bringing in a ‘meh’ 26yr old on loan who’s been through bed-shitting situations before, so be it. Avoiding total capitulation in 30mins is sometimes worth more than another raw baller with resale value.
Though getting punched in the face and humbled is the real test. Charlton will show us where we stand and the next 5 are 'winnable' (lol), on paper. Yes, that sounds ridiculous, but so does sacking the manager (and everything before it) after 3 games. Give it till October. |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:12 - Aug 23 with 1046 views | TGRRRSSS |
If we lose to Charlton??? ... if... |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:14 - Aug 23 with 1011 views | colinallcars |
If JS doesn't really do anything then it's not a job it's a sinecure.
Is he there just to take flak ? |  | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:18 - Aug 23 with 970 views | connell10 |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:07 - Aug 23 by baz_qpr |
Just a point of order on Marti. Regardless of his relationship with Nourry he was always going at the end of the season. QPR was a stepping stone, if he did well he would be picked up by another club if he did badly he would be replaced. Do you really think if Marti and Nourry had been best buddies and Leicester had come calling that he would not have gone?
Oh and I watched Leicester v Charlton today and Leicester played exactly the same way as we did at the start of last season, same routines same issues in midfield and Julien set up today just as Marti would have mid season in a more pragmatic 4-3-3. Truth is Varane, Field and Morgan were out worked and out played and well off the pace.
I'm sorry but some of this is boarding on conspiracy theory stuff. There is a framework (call it game model) and the purpose of that framework is to enable the club to trade upwards to be able to compete and you can't do that playing kick and rush counter attack or long ball. I get it. I get having all the junior sides set up the same way and recruiting players for that set up. I get having development coaches and a set piece coach working across multiple teams and ages
If someone 2 years ago came to us with this as the written strategy whilst we are watching Jimmy Dunne punt a long ball over the head of Lyndon Dykes under Ainsworth you would say absolutely that is what we should do.
There is no evidence Nourry is picking the team. You might argue the Joe Walsh selection truth is we dont know, we dont know if it's the goalkeeping coaches, the development coaches, Stephan, Nourry, Belk or a combination or committee. It's pure speculation. The argument for Walsh is if not when. The answer may be we find he is not up to it as it was with Lumley. But let's be honest Nardi had a pretty poor 2nd half of the season and his lack of command of the box has cost us, so you could make a case for it.
The fitness side however is a huge error and a big big part of our problem and what happened today The difference in our ability to get up the field with Kone on or as with last season with Frey is massive. |
All very nice but the truth is it aint working. |  |
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| Julien Stéphan on 20:20 - Aug 23 with 948 views | TGRRRSSS |
He is on message already doing the my team my fault stuff | | | |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:26 - Aug 23 with 847 views | ted_hendrix |
| Julien Stéphan on 19:43 - Aug 23 by Hunterhoop |
Ted, you and I have been on this board for a long time. Over 25 years for me. I remember your son, Charlie, on here, road dog (gave me a load of classic rock compilations), obviously Rob and Simon (even wrote for them for a bit on QPR.net), and more. I’ve been around the block and am not posting on nonsense for the sake of it.
Everything I posted (bar Steve Bould’s reporting line which I’m not sure on) is public knowledge. The job advert for the set piece coach was publicly available (Clive has linked to it). Nourry has confirmed publicly over the past 20 odd months those reporting lines. Some of the individuals themselves have confirmed it too.
This is our approach, determined and implemented by Nourry.
The “game model” was his much vaunted idea to have one formation and style of play across all age groups up to the first team to aid progression. He decided what it was to be, not Cifuentes. It involves playing out from the back. Last season, at the start of the season, it had its first outing. We won 2 in 17. Nourry wanted to sack Cifuentes but Ruben stepped in and prevented him. Cifuentes was given the ability to flex from the game model a bit. We went more pragmatic and ran up the league. Towards the end of the season we reverted to the game model and struggled. I don’t know whose choice that was, but given what had gone before and what went on at the end of the season, I can hazard a guess.
Either way, Nourry set the game model and the game model includes the formation and style of play. This season, we are back to the game model and playing out.
Stephan in one of his first interviews actually said “the club have hired me to have the team play a set way.” He is eyes wide open but he is following orders.
I know about the Walsh decision because a friend was told by a family friend of Walsh and this was before any pre season matches. Did Stephan really arrive and within a week decide to ditch last season’s first team keeper? I doubt it.
I have no doubt in the next week they’ll be a strong narrative pushed that the issue is how Stephan is setting up the team, that it is his call, etc, but it is baloney. He has nothing to do with signings and our signings (our army of wingers and 10s) are to play the game model.
Stephan has nothing to do with the fitness of the players. Little more than you or I. That is Ben Williams, who was recommended to the club by Nourry when he was at Retexo and before he became CEO. Williams reports to Nourry in his new, larger, broad remit of “Sporting Operations”.
It has all been made public before.
I know following Rangers this last decade has been trying at best and absolutely sh*te at worst. I know for the more experienced fan it has been easy to zone out, not pay too much close attention, and let it wash over you.
But everything I posted has been public knowledge if you look and listen closely enough.
Nourry and Williams (and Hoos) are the problem. Stephan might be a bad coach or a good coach; we don’t know yet and we may never find out.
Most of knew we had a very good manager in Cifuentes. The decision to axe him was Nourry’s and Nourry’s alone (they couldn’t stand each other). He has to own what comes next. Nobody else.
Ruben needs to act, and act quickly. |
Okay, look I hope you weren't assuming I was having a dig at you, I wasn't absolutely not.
I don't pay too much attention to what goes on behind closed doors at the club I find following this club as a supporter difficult now, I'm tired of It which Is a silly thing to say after only a few games.
The politics of how this club Is run 'behind the scenes' just sails over my head, I can honestly say hand on heart that the old days of the bucket collections were the best day's for me, we were skint, crap but I couldn't wait to turn up at the turnstiles. CEO my arse I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
I appreciate your time In replying, all comments noted, to go back to my first post, It's about how we respond next week, that's what matters to me.
Be lucky. | |
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| Julien Stéphan on 20:28 - Aug 23 with 829 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Julien Stéphan on 20:07 - Aug 23 by baz_qpr |
Just a point of order on Marti. Regardless of his relationship with Nourry he was always going at the end of the season. QPR was a stepping stone, if he did well he would be picked up by another club if he did badly he would be replaced. Do you really think if Marti and Nourry had been best buddies and Leicester had come calling that he would not have gone?
Oh and I watched Leicester v Charlton today and Leicester played exactly the same way as we did at the start of last season, same routines same issues in midfield and Julien set up today just as Marti would have mid season in a more pragmatic 4-3-3. Truth is Varane, Field and Morgan were out worked and out played and well off the pace.
I'm sorry but some of this is boarding on conspiracy theory stuff. There is a framework (call it game model) and the purpose of that framework is to enable the club to trade upwards to be able to compete and you can't do that playing kick and rush counter attack or long ball. I get it. I get having all the junior sides set up the same way and recruiting players for that set up. I get having development coaches and a set piece coach working across multiple teams and ages
If someone 2 years ago came to us with this as the written strategy whilst we are watching Jimmy Dunne punt a long ball over the head of Lyndon Dykes under Ainsworth you would say absolutely that is what we should do.
There is no evidence Nourry is picking the team. You might argue the Joe Walsh selection truth is we dont know, we dont know if it's the goalkeeping coaches, the development coaches, Stephan, Nourry, Belk or a combination or committee. It's pure speculation. The argument for Walsh is if not when. The answer may be we find he is not up to it as it was with Lumley. But let's be honest Nardi had a pretty poor 2nd half of the season and his lack of command of the box has cost us, so you could make a case for it.
The fitness side however is a huge error and a big big part of our problem and what happened today The difference in our ability to get up the field with Kone on or as with last season with Frey is massive. |
Conspiracy? My god that's ridiculous.
Nourry handles transfers and employs WIlliams to handle fitness, injuries and availability. This has been a disaster for multiple years for both us and the Brooklyn Nets leaving Stephan short of many players I'm sure he'd rather pick.
Nourry has elected to not sign a senior left back to replace Paal which has left Stephan no choice but to play an inexperienced Brazilian teenager and a centre back there.
Nourry has elected to provide only Adamson as an alternative to Dunne at right back which has left Stephan little choice but to play a teenage central midfielder there until today.
Nourry has elected to not sign a single central midfielder leaving Stephan no choice but to shuffle between Field, Varane, Madsen and Morgan. Though one of those was needed as desperation cover in defence.
Nourry elected to sign Nicolas Madsen and now we're all feeling the pain of carrying him with the other 10 players every time he's on the pitch.
Nourry elected to spend 3-4 million quid on the killer combination of Madsen and Celar last year, hampering our ability to sign and field the full backs and central midfield we're so clearly crying out for.
Nourry elected to sign Nardi last year who - irrespective of split fan opinion - has already fallen out of favour dramatically so represent more transfer fees and wages pissed up the wall.
Nourry has elected to sign 5 players so far this summer, none of which improve a central midfield that has bled since Stefan Johansen's legs fell off.
Nourry has elected to continually sign players for the development squad from all over the world whilst the current first team squad is amongst the worst in terms of quality and depth in our history.
Walsh has been mysteriously and immediately promoted the SECOND Marti was forced out and has stayed there since.
Whether he's writing the names on the team sheet or not... He's very much in control of AND accountable for which players are out there trotting about in QPR shirts. And there's plenty of evidence that he's completely fu<ked it up. [Post edited 23 Aug 20:30]
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| Julien Stéphan on 20:49 - Aug 23 with 597 views | NorthantsHoop |
Coventry looked head and shoulders above us, they dominated the game. Mr Stephan another performance like that and you better make an appointment at Hammersmith Jobcentre. | | | |
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