| The unicorn stays a bit longer 18:39 - Sep 22 with 6144 views | dmm |
Michi Frey has had his contract extended a year, so to 2027 I believe.
I'm not sure how much playing time he's going to get given our new strike force, but he's a good one to have in reserve. |  | | |  |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 19:26 - Sep 22 with 4234 views | queensparker |
He’s no way a main striker but I am loving the thought of the likes of Frey, Poku, Smyth and Dembele coming on after the oppo has been seeing off Kone, Saito and Burrell all game.
Suddenly we’ve got physicality and pace in the squad and some great options after all these years. We haven’t even missed Chair after being a one man team for three seasons |  | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 19:56 - Sep 22 with 4126 views | ingeminate |
Playing two up top he’ll get decent game time at some stage. |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 21:13 - Sep 22 with 3901 views | DannyPaddox |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 21:20 - Sep 22 with 3858 views | Esox_Lucius |
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If we had beaten Arsenal to Eze's last minute signing we would have had "The Eagle Has Landed At Midnight". |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 22:13 - Sep 22 with 3711 views | Spaceman_P |
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Or a gay porn movie from the 70s |  | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 22:15 - Sep 22 with 3689 views | Lblock |
Fire up the glossary for the “when fit” statement.
I’m on board with this and have liked Frey since game one when he moved off his marker in the box and scored. Obviously, the issue was/is availability but I think he does a decent job when on the pitch and he can score all sorts of goals.
There’s always murmuring about his lack of pace, (and I’m a big shouter for pace), but he gets about once a head of steam built up. He’s also got a great touch and a fair dose of skill as demonstrated with a bit of keepy up to get him away from defenders last season.
I think he’ll start v Oxford after getting the last 15 on Saturday vs Wednesday (hopefully not injured by Monday)
In summary - good news |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 22:44 - Sep 22 with 3599 views | LazyFan |
It's a good idea to renew him as a backup. Imagine if Kone got a long injury, we would want that number 9 backup, and Frey can do that. |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 23:47 - Sep 22 with 3500 views | CiderwithRsie |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 00:56 - Sep 23 with 3400 views | simmo |
I really like Frey, as fun as he is big, but I'm not sure a repeatedly unfit and unavailable 31yo striker who can't do 90mins and has minimal re-sell value warrants a deal beyond the year option we've already taken... |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 03:44 - Sep 23 with 3250 views | numptydumpty |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 00:56 - Sep 23 by simmo |
I really like Frey, as fun as he is big, but I'm not sure a repeatedly unfit and unavailable 31yo striker who can't do 90mins and has minimal re-sell value warrants a deal beyond the year option we've already taken... |
He stepped up last season when he was our only option and performed very well considering his abilities and limitations.
Perhaps the extra year, his salary is reduced, or even a pay as you play salary, but this means we could also sell him on, or loan if neccessary with option to recall if needed and he is there as cover if needs be perhaps as fourth option then.
Given our financial resources, it makes some sense.
Frey performed above his skill set last season and did a decent job.i think i can see the clubs logic, and despite our seeming success in recruiting strikers this season, its proven very difficult on a consistent basis.
i think its a sensible option. [Post edited 23 Sep 4:10]
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 06:19 - Sep 23 with 3134 views | Malintabuk |
We seem to be on the road to being a well run club, can't believe I just wrote this. So if the club believes that extending Frey is the correct thing to do, I'm all for it
Unfortunately I think he will outlast Kone. I really can't see Kone being with us past the summer, unless something horrendous happens.
King Kone is I feel destined for bigger better things. So keeping Frey on seems like good business
I think as above Frey will get a start in the Oxford game. | | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 07:06 - Sep 23 with 3007 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 06:19 - Sep 23 by Malintabuk |
We seem to be on the road to being a well run club, can't believe I just wrote this. So if the club believes that extending Frey is the correct thing to do, I'm all for it
Unfortunately I think he will outlast Kone. I really can't see Kone being with us past the summer, unless something horrendous happens.
King Kone is I feel destined for bigger better things. So keeping Frey on seems like good business
I think as above Frey will get a start in the Oxford game. |
I think you're right: enjoy King Kone while we can.
However, buying low and selling for a huge fee (with clauses of course) is our model. So come the summer TW if we're looking at big bucks, then that's the game.
However, the key to this is early identification of the next Kone who's ready to step-up and step-in. Which is what it was always meant to be. Signed Sints for £350k, sold for £2.75m at the same time as buying Sinclair for £600k. Of course, it all started to go nipples north when we sold Sinclair for Dowie, Rowland, and training kit as opposed to an appropriate fee and having his replacement lined up.
Generate income, you can then buy-in better replacements, whom you have identified and lined up in advance, and you are more likely to become a Brentford or Brighton as opposed to a Crewe.
As for Frey, I wonder if there will be a big drop-off with age? Cook looks a shadow currently whereas some blokes you get a tune out of well into their 30s. |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 09:17 - Sep 23 with 2791 views | Lblock |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 07:06 - Sep 23 by PlanetHonneywood |
I think you're right: enjoy King Kone while we can.
However, buying low and selling for a huge fee (with clauses of course) is our model. So come the summer TW if we're looking at big bucks, then that's the game.
However, the key to this is early identification of the next Kone who's ready to step-up and step-in. Which is what it was always meant to be. Signed Sints for £350k, sold for £2.75m at the same time as buying Sinclair for £600k. Of course, it all started to go nipples north when we sold Sinclair for Dowie, Rowland, and training kit as opposed to an appropriate fee and having his replacement lined up.
Generate income, you can then buy-in better replacements, whom you have identified and lined up in advance, and you are more likely to become a Brentford or Brighton as opposed to a Crewe.
As for Frey, I wonder if there will be a big drop-off with age? Cook looks a shadow currently whereas some blokes you get a tune out of well into their 30s. |
I get it…. IF an offer came in for Kone in January that was £10mill plus then it’s probably got to be taken.
The flaw is he then needs replacing and we’re pretty shoite at that.
I’m just wistful for the old days where you stumbled upon a couple of golden nuggets of players and then added to them, set up to make them your stars and, you know, actually tried to win a few things. Can we not dream of adding Handsome Ron, more legs centre mid, a monster keeper or other players to push us to the play offs or beyond?
I get that ambition doesn’t pay the bills but just what has it come to when success is judged by balance sheets?
I dunno…… | |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 10:45 - Sep 23 with 2594 views | Beestonranger |
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Cook, Vine and Sinclair also by Len Deighton. | | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:01 - Sep 23 with 2547 views | cpgerber |
I think Alfie Lloyd's injury might have weighed in here.
He should have been playing for Orient now, so we could evaluate and see if we can do the Kelman trade-in trick again or if he is just not going to make the grade.
If the 2nd, we probably needed Frey to hang around a bit longer. I'm guessing we are now leaning towards this and in all honesty, that's where I am on Lloyd also. |  | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:16 - Sep 23 with 2457 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 09:17 - Sep 23 by Lblock |
I get it…. IF an offer came in for Kone in January that was £10mill plus then it’s probably got to be taken.
The flaw is he then needs replacing and we’re pretty shoite at that.
I’m just wistful for the old days where you stumbled upon a couple of golden nuggets of players and then added to them, set up to make them your stars and, you know, actually tried to win a few things. Can we not dream of adding Handsome Ron, more legs centre mid, a monster keeper or other players to push us to the play offs or beyond?
I get that ambition doesn’t pay the bills but just what has it come to when success is judged by balance sheets?
I dunno…… |
We don’t sell Kone in January unless we get a ridiculously high offer and circa £10m is nowhere near that. With the expected large sell on clause for Wycombe we’d be lucky to clear a few million profit at that kind of price. |  | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:21 - Sep 23 with 2424 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Not sure about this one.
If this extension takes him from 2026 to 2027 (we're guessing) that will be an extension for a 32-year old who even now is rarely available, and rarely fit when available.
Wouldn't we be better off spending that money on someone we're developing?
I'm just not sure I see the logic. |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:45 - Sep 23 with 2309 views | Malintabuk |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:21 - Sep 23 by BrianMcCarthy |
Not sure about this one.
If this extension takes him from 2026 to 2027 (we're guessing) that will be an extension for a 32-year old who even now is rarely available, and rarely fit when available.
Wouldn't we be better off spending that money on someone we're developing?
I'm just not sure I see the logic. |
Good points Brian...
I can only think that it might be both continuity and someone who can do a job for us.
Chances are Kone is going to be off in a year or even less, especially if he stays injury free. Finding another nugget like him will be a hard ask... so Frey will step in... not an exact replacement but can do a job for us
We know what we have in Frey... and I think this new up and at 'em approach will suit him more that tikka ticca.
If he is on film star wages then yes would seem a little strange, but if he is on reasonable wages, then it would seem good business
Think Nourry has moved us on from keeping someone in the hope they come good, so Frey must be part of the "project" | | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 12:26 - Sep 23 with 2159 views | RatKingCole |
I expect we've spent a fair bit this summer so a new striker would be far more expensive than just renewing Frey's contract. Fine with him being an impact sub and cover for Kone, as others have said.
Furthermore, we have one of the youngest squads in the league so retaining Frey means we have some of that dressing room experience that we're starting to run a bit dry of. | | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 12:46 - Sep 23 with 2072 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 11:21 - Sep 23 by BrianMcCarthy |
Not sure about this one.
If this extension takes him from 2026 to 2027 (we're guessing) that will be an extension for a 32-year old who even now is rarely available, and rarely fit when available.
Wouldn't we be better off spending that money on someone we're developing?
I'm just not sure I see the logic. |
Maybe he triggered, Steve Cook style. |  | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 12:58 - Sep 23 with 2041 views | cpgerber |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 12:46 - Sep 23 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Maybe he triggered, Steve Cook style. |
Highly unlikely, as Cook's extension clause (I believe) was based on appearances for a large part. Frey almost certainly would not have met such a clause. | | | |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 13:04 - Sep 23 with 2014 views | Dorse |
Fair enough, he's certainly a good squad option. I've said previously that I don't believe we need to tying him down to anything longer than the extra year. In 12 months time, we'll know whether or not Alfie Lloyd or Rayan Kolli have got the chops for this and having Frey as squad player will get us to that point with (hopefully) the minimum of fuss as we know what he brings to the team.
I don't believe he's a long-term solution but he's certainly helpful. He'd be a nightmare for a tiring centreback to face as a second half substitute! And he wins his fair share of headers in both boxes. Injuries and fitness notwithstanding, he's a known quantity and low risk. |  |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 13:24 - Sep 23 with 1913 views | DannyPaddox |
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| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 14:05 - Sep 23 with 1797 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The unicorn stays a bit longer on 12:58 - Sep 23 by cpgerber |
Highly unlikely, as Cook's extension clause (I believe) was based on appearances for a large part. Frey almost certainly would not have met such a clause. |
Top scorer clause maybe?
I’m just riffing because I am surprised as Brian, although I do like him. [Post edited 23 Sep 14:08]
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