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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF 18:22 - Aug 30 with 12769 viewsgazza1

Madsen is a decent footballer and far far better player than the uneducated supporter on this very MB can see. Selected again today to start and played another decent match adding to the opening game against PNE where he did a decent job as well. He was OK against Watford as well despite being ‘singled out’ as poor, etc, etc – he was not poor in ‘my book’. MB people need to actually look at what he does well. Left out at Coventry but soon introduced from half time replacing ‘fans favorite’ Morgan who was so so poor in the first half giving Coventry at least two of the goals that we conceded & giving the ball away time after time and very overrated generally by many posters.

Going back to today, he played next to Varane in a near defensive type role, he took many dead ball situations, and took them well, including a well saved free kick, some of his forward passes were very good indeed, passed the ball generally very well and at times very quickly to get attacks moving. Nothing wrong with his game today overall but I see that ParkRoyalRanger still finds time to disrespect him…….not surprising really when you know he thinks that Dykes is a good player and it is everyone elses fault!!!!

Madsen is one of our best footballers in the Team, ‘head & shoulders’ above many and it is sad that many can’t see it.

If Madsen is as poor, as many on this MB appear to think (& believe), then why is he being picked to play by the new Manager/Coach/CEO this season and, also, picked by Cleventes at the back end of last season, who is a many MB poster hero,, ……why would he be selected to start by those two, the coaches, if he is so poor??? He has been selected to start around 10 times out of 12 of our last matches

Now, he is not my favorite player and I do not think that Madsen is any Ray Wilkins but he is nowhere near as bad as many think, a very long way from it – worth a place in the starting 11, currently for sure, even keeping Sam Field off the field for the whole game. And by the way, those who cheered him sarcastically today should be ashamed of themselves.
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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 21:19 - Sep 1 with 730 viewsmart_Goblin

CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 17:06 - Sep 1 by BrianMcCarthy

Wilkins was 100% committed, drove his team-mates on relentlessly, on and off the pitch. He changed our club like very few others - Gregory, Marsh, Bowles, Venables - he's in that group.

Yes, he was immensely talented. Yes, he was short. Yes he was over thirty. But let's not get him wrong now: the QPR's Ray Wilkins was a Gent, but he was no dillitante. He was a dog.

He played with purpose, with drive, with a fierce and relentless determination. The man was a born winner.

And he did tackle, and he did head. And, yes, he did help out the defence.

He played the ref, he played the oppo. He bollocked his players. When we scored he was in their ear, he had an arm around them but he was in their ear. When they made a mistake he was in their ear, an arm around them but he was in their ear. They loved him, but he never let up.

That man drove the standards of our club for the best part of a decade.

Wilkins was one of QPR's greatest: not just because of his talent, but because of his raw hunger and raw determination. A winner.


I’m biased but that is spot on Brian
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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 22:37 - Sep 1 with 592 viewscharmr

The only similarity I can acknowledge between Wilkins and Madsen is they both have vowels and consonants in their names.
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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 20:02 - Sep 2 with 339 viewsNorthLondonR

CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 09:07 - Sep 1 by sdm1508

Wow. A fly on the wall as well as a c***. Someone can multitask. Also no 't' in that little C word. If your mind is gravitating towards other options, maybe you are subconsciously aware you are acting like one


Would it, and should it be an aberration for a Johnny whatshisface rendition of 'Woman in a tabard' for our intricate ball-playing demand?

"Madsen in the middle ooo ah, ooo ah" (and so forth).

Or are we totally anti-Madsen?


*"demand was intentionally meant to be midfielder"
[Post edited 2 Sep 20:03]
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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 21:11 - Sep 2 with 221 viewsStreathamRanger

CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 17:06 - Sep 1 by BrianMcCarthy

Wilkins was 100% committed, drove his team-mates on relentlessly, on and off the pitch. He changed our club like very few others - Gregory, Marsh, Bowles, Venables - he's in that group.

Yes, he was immensely talented. Yes, he was short. Yes he was over thirty. But let's not get him wrong now: the QPR's Ray Wilkins was a Gent, but he was no dillitante. He was a dog.

He played with purpose, with drive, with a fierce and relentless determination. The man was a born winner.

And he did tackle, and he did head. And, yes, he did help out the defence.

He played the ref, he played the oppo. He bollocked his players. When we scored he was in their ear, he had an arm around them but he was in their ear. When they made a mistake he was in their ear, an arm around them but he was in their ear. They loved him, but he never let up.

That man drove the standards of our club for the best part of a decade.

Wilkins was one of QPR's greatest: not just because of his talent, but because of his raw hunger and raw determination. A winner.


Super Ray came along around the time my dad started taking me to Loftus Road. I just assumed every team must have a player that good in the heart of their midfield. An absolute legend and a gentleman.
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CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 21:19 - Sep 2 with 205 viewsCiderwithRsie

CONTRARY to FIRM BELIEF on 17:06 - Sep 1 by BrianMcCarthy

Wilkins was 100% committed, drove his team-mates on relentlessly, on and off the pitch. He changed our club like very few others - Gregory, Marsh, Bowles, Venables - he's in that group.

Yes, he was immensely talented. Yes, he was short. Yes he was over thirty. But let's not get him wrong now: the QPR's Ray Wilkins was a Gent, but he was no dillitante. He was a dog.

He played with purpose, with drive, with a fierce and relentless determination. The man was a born winner.

And he did tackle, and he did head. And, yes, he did help out the defence.

He played the ref, he played the oppo. He bollocked his players. When we scored he was in their ear, he had an arm around them but he was in their ear. When they made a mistake he was in their ear, an arm around them but he was in their ear. They loved him, but he never let up.

That man drove the standards of our club for the best part of a decade.

Wilkins was one of QPR's greatest: not just because of his talent, but because of his raw hunger and raw determination. A winner.


Exactly right, Brian, and IMO this sets out exactly what Madsen doesn't do.

Which does not mean Madsen is rubbish. As you say, Wilkins was transformational, players like that don't come along often. (If I recall correctly we got him on a free from Glasgow Rangers; amazing, really.)
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