| How did Madsen play yesterday? 11:35 - Sep 14 with 21682 views | HotCurrie |
I saw he played 84 mins and on the highlights there was a great turn and pass for Kone's goal. How was he the rest of the match? |  | | |  |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:05 - Sep 14 with 3595 views | ParkRoyalR |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 14:53 - Sep 14 by charmr |
We get it, we all see the game differently. See Dykes, Dozzel and Eze for reference. [Post edited 14 Sep 14:56]
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I've seen many players put in superb individual performances when the team has been well beaten,
Just because Burrell & Kone won us that game yesterday doesn't mean all players in thd team contributed to a great win, as we still carried Madesn,
We've set the bar so low with our biggest money signing were now raving if he makes a 10 yard pass forward or the ball hits him,
Yet again lacked courage to show, take & hold the ball,
We will face much tougher tests than Charlton & Wrexham and need to develop a coherent attacking style of play, preferably with 10 outfield players contributing,
If we're giving Madsen an Assist for that pass yesterday, the bar is very low. |  | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:14 - Sep 14 with 3539 views | DieByYourSide |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:05 - Sep 14 by ParkRoyalR |
I've seen many players put in superb individual performances when the team has been well beaten,
Just because Burrell & Kone won us that game yesterday doesn't mean all players in thd team contributed to a great win, as we still carried Madesn,
We've set the bar so low with our biggest money signing were now raving if he makes a 10 yard pass forward or the ball hits him,
Yet again lacked courage to show, take & hold the ball,
We will face much tougher tests than Charlton & Wrexham and need to develop a coherent attacking style of play, preferably with 10 outfield players contributing,
If we're giving Madsen an Assist for that pass yesterday, the bar is very low. |
Not as low as a Dunne assist for the Burrell goal 😎 | |
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:21 - Sep 14 with 3497 views | ParkRoyalR |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:14 - Sep 14 by DieByYourSide |
Not as low as a Dunne assist for the Burrell goal 😎 |
100% agree, neither were goal creating Assists, they just happened to be the last pass before Kone & Burrell produced 2 superb individual goals. | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:33 - Sep 14 with 3450 views | sdm1508 |
Hi Gazza. I can tell from your posts that you do have some knowledge of football even if you feel the need to put down others who you feel don't. On a serious note though, did you play or coach at some sort of level. Genuinely curious | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:45 - Sep 14 with 3403 views | Kiko |
Played better than before, but still has glaring weaknesses. Performance yesterday will be good enough againat poor teams, but the minute we play a top half team that midfield will get torn apart.
Personally would rather have stability and robustness with Hayden in the middle rather than the supposed creativity Madsen brings and we all know with Madsen there's always a 90% chance he has a total stinker and we basically play most of the match with 10 men | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 16:15 - Sep 14 with 3291 views | Dorse |
Madsen, to me, feels like someone who will still lose, even if we win. Some people see him as 'better than we feared', whilst others see exactly the same performance and see 'not as good as we hoped'.
No player yesterday had a perfect game. But, unlike last season, Madsen isn't hiding: he is putting in the work and making a positive contribution to a winning side. I was cheesed off with him last year but I've seen improvement. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:16]
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 16:21 - Sep 14 with 3239 views | dm97 |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 16:15 - Sep 14 by Dorse |
Madsen, to me, feels like someone who will still lose, even if we win. Some people see him as 'better than we feared', whilst others see exactly the same performance and see 'not as good as we hoped'.
No player yesterday had a perfect game. But, unlike last season, Madsen isn't hiding: he is putting in the work and making a positive contribution to a winning side. I was cheesed off with him last year but I've seen improvement. [Post edited 14 Sep 16:16]
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Strong agree. Against weaker teams I think JS will play him or Morgan, because they’re the CMs we have who can pass forwards. He’s trying to fill that brief and isn’t shirking as much as has. Doesn’t make him brilliant but also doesn’t warrant (bias) criticism.
He’s been fine, and that’s an improvement. No more no less |  | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 16:43 - Sep 14 with 3132 views | QPR_Pro_Max |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 12:44 - Sep 14 by charmr |
As soon as we get an upgrade he will be on the bench. See Kone or Saito for reference. |
Madden is an upgrade on Field, so Field is on the bench. | | | |
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:05 - Sep 14 with 3062 views | Pindarus |
Unless players come dripping in sweat making crunching tackles and getting yellow cards every other game they obviously aren't any good.
Some people don't appreciate vision and creativity. | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:12 - Sep 14 with 3024 views | jeffranger50 |
Last 2 games with Madsen & vale scored 6 & conceded 2 so doing something right or wrong? | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:31 - Sep 14 with 2962 views | mart_Goblin |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 15:05 - Sep 14 by ParkRoyalR |
I've seen many players put in superb individual performances when the team has been well beaten,
Just because Burrell & Kone won us that game yesterday doesn't mean all players in thd team contributed to a great win, as we still carried Madesn,
We've set the bar so low with our biggest money signing were now raving if he makes a 10 yard pass forward or the ball hits him,
Yet again lacked courage to show, take & hold the ball,
We will face much tougher tests than Charlton & Wrexham and need to develop a coherent attacking style of play, preferably with 10 outfield players contributing,
If we're giving Madsen an Assist for that pass yesterday, the bar is very low. |
Jesus . Ok .
Only a matter of time before you start your anti Frey blurb again this season, just because he was preferred to your beloved Lyndon.
I get it , we all have players we like more than others, but this just looks a bit silly to me. |  | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:34 - Sep 14 with 2952 views | nix |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:05 - Sep 14 by Pindarus |
Unless players come dripping in sweat making crunching tackles and getting yellow cards every other game they obviously aren't any good.
Some people don't appreciate vision and creativity. |
I agree. He made four key passes yesterday. He also did some cracking long balls in the Charlton match that should really have led to goals.
I don’t think he’ll play in the matches where you need a solid midfield. But where you can carry the midfield a bit but need to break down a defence he’s a valuable option. Anyone who thinks that assist something Field or Varane would have made regularly has not been watching us recently (and I rate both of them)!
Fortunately some of the people on here don’t pick or coach the team. I’ve got much more faith in Stephan who’s just got us two wins in two. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:35]
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 18:11 - Sep 14 with 2818 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 14:11 - Sep 14 by ParkRoyalR |
Like you do, Cifuentres picked an 18 year old Development Squad player ahead of him last season,
A player on £300 a week who was getting the Central Line to & from the game,
Varane played a superb no look pass to Dembele the other week which Dembele should have scored from but fluffed,
Madsen played a 10 yard pass your elderly Auntie would make, Kone scores a worldy & Madsen gets credited with an Assist, laughable.
Madsen should thank Kone & Burrell for another abject performance yesterday, Saito showed him yet again what courage in possession is all about. |
You were utterly broken when Lyndon left a year ago and have been shouting at clouds on here ever since, lashing out at the players who replaced him in the squad (but could never replace him in your heart). Thoughts and prayers. |  | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 18:33 - Sep 14 with 2758 views | kensalriser |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 12:44 - Sep 14 by charmr |
As soon as we get an upgrade he will be on the bench. See Kone or Saito for reference. |
The same applies to every player doesn't it? |  |
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 23:02 - Sep 14 with 2364 views | ParkRoyalR |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:31 - Sep 14 by mart_Goblin |
Jesus . Ok .
Only a matter of time before you start your anti Frey blurb again this season, just because he was preferred to your beloved Lyndon.
I get it , we all have players we like more than others, but this just looks a bit silly to me. |
Someone posted that when Frey came on it looked like someone's Dad joined in the game,
I think that says it all. | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 23:13 - Sep 14 with 2340 views | ParkRoyalR |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 17:34 - Sep 14 by nix |
I agree. He made four key passes yesterday. He also did some cracking long balls in the Charlton match that should really have led to goals.
I don’t think he’ll play in the matches where you need a solid midfield. But where you can carry the midfield a bit but need to break down a defence he’s a valuable option. Anyone who thinks that assist something Field or Varane would have made regularly has not been watching us recently (and I rate both of them)!
Fortunately some of the people on here don’t pick or coach the team. I’ve got much more faith in Stephan who’s just got us two wins in two. [Post edited 14 Sep 17:35]
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Not being contrary but I'd give Kone & Burrell the credit for that win more than the Manager,
The stats will tell us Dunne & Madsen both got Assists yesterday, in the same way they told us Coventry should have only scored 1 Goal against us, our eyes told us different.
We've beaten two promoted teams who are adjusting to the Championship and look poor sides, let's hope we can beat the better teams too. | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 00:51 - Sep 15 with 2235 views | NW5Hoop |
Madsen induces madness in some people in a way I have never seen before with one of our own players.
Last season, in one game where he was subbed off, he walked around the edge of the pitch back tp the dugouts, past us in the West Paddock. A fella from a row or two back ran down the perimeter wall and walked alongside him for 10 yards, screaming filth at him from a foot away. Spittle flying out, cheeks purple. My son got up to try to calm him, fella pushed him away. I got up and had a word. He pushed me and sent me staggering.
Is that worth it because a midfielder had a bad game? Really? | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 01:05 - Sep 15 with 2195 views | ParkRoyalR |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 00:51 - Sep 15 by NW5Hoop |
Madsen induces madness in some people in a way I have never seen before with one of our own players.
Last season, in one game where he was subbed off, he walked around the edge of the pitch back tp the dugouts, past us in the West Paddock. A fella from a row or two back ran down the perimeter wall and walked alongside him for 10 yards, screaming filth at him from a foot away. Spittle flying out, cheeks purple. My son got up to try to calm him, fella pushed him away. I got up and had a word. He pushed me and sent me staggering.
Is that worth it because a midfielder had a bad game? Really? |
No, that's ridiculous behaviour
But just because we win doesn't mean you can't post on a forum to disagree with other posters who come on and say well he made a simple 10 yard pass so job done,
Hadyn played maybe 10 minutes, played the best pass of the match (if Jimmy didn't mean that long pass) but would we accept him plodding round for another 80 minutes doing jack all?
I want Madsen to show for the ball like Bannan @ Wednesday does & Woods when @ Brentford did, I want him to run games,
Is that too much to ask of our £3.5m star signing?
Varane & Hadyn have shown in our last 2 games they have passes to unlock defences,
But they run, head, tackle & most importantly show for the ball. | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 06:18 - Sep 15 with 1996 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 00:51 - Sep 15 by NW5Hoop |
Madsen induces madness in some people in a way I have never seen before with one of our own players.
Last season, in one game where he was subbed off, he walked around the edge of the pitch back tp the dugouts, past us in the West Paddock. A fella from a row or two back ran down the perimeter wall and walked alongside him for 10 yards, screaming filth at him from a foot away. Spittle flying out, cheeks purple. My son got up to try to calm him, fella pushed him away. I got up and had a word. He pushed me and sent me staggering.
Is that worth it because a midfielder had a bad game? Really? |
You'd think being the DOF/CEO, Nourry would be sat in the Directors' Box, not the West Paddock! |  |
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 07:05 - Sep 15 with 1914 views | nix |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 23:13 - Sep 14 by ParkRoyalR |
Not being contrary but I'd give Kone & Burrell the credit for that win more than the Manager,
The stats will tell us Dunne & Madsen both got Assists yesterday, in the same way they told us Coventry should have only scored 1 Goal against us, our eyes told us different.
We've beaten two promoted teams who are adjusting to the Championship and look poor sides, let's hope we can beat the better teams too. |
Funny that because I think you absolutely are being contrary.
Of course the manager picks the team, chooses the tactics and sets the tone. Ask the Sheffield United fans. Yes you need the personnel too and I wouldn’t underplay Kone and Burrell’s contribution but unlike you I wouldn’t underplay Madsen’s or Stephan’s either. If you look back to yhe Charlton game he created several chances that players e.g. Smyth arguably could have done better with. Same yesterday. When teams like Wrexham like go get people behind the ball someone who can unlock defences can be very useful. I know you would say it was just a simple pass but you need both the vision to see it in real time and the skill to execute it. I can’t tell you how often I can see a pass from the stands that the players in the heat of the moment don’t spot and then pass back/sideways instead or they see the pass and (generally) overhit it and it goes out for a goal kick.
Madsen has the ability and the vision. What he lacks is the physicality and the focus as he sometimes switches off. He’s definitely working on the former, executing blocks, clearances and headers that he wouldn’t have made last season. He still needs to improve focus but I’m guessing that can be worked on too.
He may still not be a quite the value for money purchase tbat say Richard Kone or Romarn Burrell are but he certainly isn’t Mark Hately, Macaulay Bonne or Conor Washington either as he seems to be portrayed on here. Even Dozzell got an easier time on here, certainly for his first season and a half and I think he did much less than Madsen is doing now. He was certainly not up to Championship level in his first two thirds of last season but I think he’s being judged for that period now more than his current performances demand. [Post edited 15 Sep 7:06]
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 08:49 - Sep 15 with 1745 views | francisbowles |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 07:05 - Sep 15 by nix |
Funny that because I think you absolutely are being contrary.
Of course the manager picks the team, chooses the tactics and sets the tone. Ask the Sheffield United fans. Yes you need the personnel too and I wouldn’t underplay Kone and Burrell’s contribution but unlike you I wouldn’t underplay Madsen’s or Stephan’s either. If you look back to yhe Charlton game he created several chances that players e.g. Smyth arguably could have done better with. Same yesterday. When teams like Wrexham like go get people behind the ball someone who can unlock defences can be very useful. I know you would say it was just a simple pass but you need both the vision to see it in real time and the skill to execute it. I can’t tell you how often I can see a pass from the stands that the players in the heat of the moment don’t spot and then pass back/sideways instead or they see the pass and (generally) overhit it and it goes out for a goal kick.
Madsen has the ability and the vision. What he lacks is the physicality and the focus as he sometimes switches off. He’s definitely working on the former, executing blocks, clearances and headers that he wouldn’t have made last season. He still needs to improve focus but I’m guessing that can be worked on too.
He may still not be a quite the value for money purchase tbat say Richard Kone or Romarn Burrell are but he certainly isn’t Mark Hately, Macaulay Bonne or Conor Washington either as he seems to be portrayed on here. Even Dozzell got an easier time on here, certainly for his first season and a half and I think he did much less than Madsen is doing now. He was certainly not up to Championship level in his first two thirds of last season but I think he’s being judged for that period now more than his current performances demand. [Post edited 15 Sep 7:06]
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Excellent post, Nix. Let's get behind a player that is, after a difficult start last season, showing that he is gradually adapting to the Championship and integrating facets into his game that he hasn't been known for previously.
We didn't buy a tough tacking, running around a lot midfielder. We bought a player with a creative skill set. Check out the excellent piece that was posted on this site last year. https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/62838/is-madsen-th | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 09:04 - Sep 15 with 1704 views | Andybrat |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 08:49 - Sep 15 by francisbowles |
Excellent post, Nix. Let's get behind a player that is, after a difficult start last season, showing that he is gradually adapting to the Championship and integrating facets into his game that he hasn't been known for previously.
We didn't buy a tough tacking, running around a lot midfielder. We bought a player with a creative skill set. Check out the excellent piece that was posted on this site last year. https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/62838/is-madsen-th |
Thing is if we play him we are likeLy to create more chances, conversely we are likely to concede more goals. We all know that is the balance. He is the best passer in the team and doesn’t waste time on the ball. The Charlton game ( I wasn’t at Wrexham) it was noticeable how many times he passed the ball with his 1st touch. I see that as creative and acceleration of the ball up the pitch rather than not taking responsibility. He lets the ball do the work. We all know the price of this in his defensive duties but he is improving. Will never be a Field, Varane or Hayden but that’s not what JS wants him for. Thing is we have options depending on where the game is, I assume he came off at the weekend | | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 09:10 - Sep 15 with 1680 views | E17hoop |
Made 4 key passes, 80+% pass completion, wasn't tackled, made a block.
He's not Varane but a foil for the DCM he's playing with. Decent game - 7. |  |
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| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 10:08 - Sep 15 with 1572 views | daveB |
The thing with Madsen is he has that ability to put in a defence splitting pass, always looks to go forward with the ball and thats what the manager wants, get the bal into those attacking players as quickly as possibly and although at the moment it's once or twice a game that he does this but with Varane next him and the likes of Saito and Vale coming into the middle to help I can see the benefits and his shortcoming are not being exposed.
He does drive me mada bit when he disapears in games but I think thats just the type of player he is and his defensive side has got better even if it's a long way short of what we need at times.
We'll have games where the riskis too high and you play a 3 man midfield and someone like a Field or Hayden in there but for now I quite like that the manager is having a look to try and find a solution to our midfield issues |  | | |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 10:20 - Sep 15 with 1534 views | terryb |
| How did Madsen play yesterday? on 23:02 - Sep 14 by ParkRoyalR |
Someone posted that when Frey came on it looked like someone's Dad joined in the game,
I think that says it all. |
I think that says it all about you & the one person you quote!
Of course, Frey made the wrong decision to shoot rather than play the ball to Vale(?), but he made himself available to receive passes & defended from the front.
Not as good as Burrell was, but faster & far more mobile than Dykes was in 90% of the games he played for us. And I'm one of the few on the board who appreciated what Lyndon gave us in the other 10% of matches. Expecially against Preston! | | | |
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