| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:01 - Apr 29 with 2779 views | Mr_Beef |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 21:56 - Apr 29 by Ned_Kennedys |
Agreed.
The story about his agent speaking to West Brom about the job is clearly true: if not then Cifuentes would have denied it which he hasn’t. He wants to go.
Amongst all the errant nonsense that the ‘intheknow’ experts have been throwing at the wall was Cifuentes was sniffing around the Burnley and Sunderland jobs last summer after about 6 months with us: the guy has always been using us as a foot in the door of English football, knows he can’t take us any further and wants to move on to a ‘bigger’ job and is making his move now as jobs such as WBA, Southampton, Norwich, almost certainly Leicester, possibly Leeds and Ipswich become available.
He wants to leave, he’s not committed to QPR, he shouldn’t be in charge against Sunderland. Resolve quickly and get someone in early.
Looking forward to the ‘are you Nourry’ etc posts from the usual suspects. |
For someone so quick to criticise "in the knows" you're pretty good at presenting your opinions as facts yourself |  | |  |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:04 - Apr 29 with 2703 views | lightwaterhoop |
I cant help feeling that there would'nt be so much support on here for Marti if he was a dour
northener or a chavy southerner instead of a cool Spaniard. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:06 - Apr 29 with 2656 views | bosh67 |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 21:56 - Apr 29 by Ned_Kennedys |
Agreed.
The story about his agent speaking to West Brom about the job is clearly true: if not then Cifuentes would have denied it which he hasn’t. He wants to go.
Amongst all the errant nonsense that the ‘intheknow’ experts have been throwing at the wall was Cifuentes was sniffing around the Burnley and Sunderland jobs last summer after about 6 months with us: the guy has always been using us as a foot in the door of English football, knows he can’t take us any further and wants to move on to a ‘bigger’ job and is making his move now as jobs such as WBA, Southampton, Norwich, almost certainly Leicester, possibly Leeds and Ipswich become available.
He wants to leave, he’s not committed to QPR, he shouldn’t be in charge against Sunderland. Resolve quickly and get someone in early.
Looking forward to the ‘are you Nourry’ etc posts from the usual suspects. |
To be honest if you were Nourry your post would have read...
Marti was an inquisitive little owl with an insatiable thirst for knowledge at every level. Unfortunately like some owls their head gets turned so far that the only kind thing to do is to snap it and end it all. We wish him well and will watch his future life on a perch with interest.
Or some such thing... |  |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:07 - Apr 29 with 2639 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:01 - Apr 29 by Mr_Beef |
For someone so quick to criticise "in the knows" you're pretty good at presenting your opinions as facts yourself |
See how it works? Easy isn’t it. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:07 - Apr 29 with 2646 views | colinallcars |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:04 - Apr 29 by lightwaterhoop |
I cant help feeling that there would'nt be so much support on here for Marti if he was a dour
northener or a chavy southerner instead of a cool Spaniard. |
Garden leave it aahht…. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:11 - Apr 29 with 2557 views | baz_qpr |
Its all a bit over dramatic isn't, maybe I'm missing something, his agent obviously spoke with us when he was at Hammerby, pretty sure this stuff goes on all the time, not sure what either side gains from the drama apart from West Brom who dont want to pay compensation. Fans will take sides, players will take sides. All very unnecessary IMHO. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:12 - Apr 29 with 2519 views | BrianWilson |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 21:50 - Apr 29 by Northernr |
Well it's the same over a lot of things - Paul Smyth a couple of weeks ago.
It's very different demographics, this message board vs Twitter. |
Presume its all Neil Warnock/Clint Hill/Shaun Derry shouts on social media. Honestly think some "fans" on social media haven't a clue whats goin on for years at the club yet still chime in with "Get Warnock back in" everytime we change manager. |  |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:13 - Apr 29 with 2501 views | SimonJames |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:13 - Apr 29 with 2480 views | queensparker |
Weirdly I’m also about to enter gardening leave for the summer because my boss is an over promoted arrogant cnt who I disagreed with every day.
To allow such a popular and clearly talented manger to leave in this way is an abject failure as CEO. If he’s going then fine, it’s football, it happens, bank the compo and move on. Say thank you
Creating this level of drama stinks of inexperience [Post edited 29 Apr 22:15]
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:13 - Apr 29 with 2487 views | vanrrrr |
I thought this time last year we were on the ups- good manager in place, team gelling a bit of money to spend …. Literally back to square one
I am so tired of it. | | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:14 - Apr 29 with 2463 views | StreathamRanger |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:04 - Apr 29 by lightwaterhoop |
I cant help feeling that there would'nt be so much support on here for Marti if he was a dour
northener or a chavy southerner instead of a cool Spaniard. |
He's definitely worked the crowd brilliantly. All this stuff about if he wrote a book there'd be a chapter on the QPR fans while he knows that his agent is actively looking for another club is a bit rich but most are happy to drink it in.
I've no problem with him being ambitious and wanting to move on to a better/bigger club. I think we're so used to changing managers when we're sick to the back teeth of the current one that we've forgotten that this is part of the game.
I'm sure there are challenges working with Nourry and the recruitment last summer failed in areas but also did okay in others.
Let's see who comes in before we completely lose our minds. Back in November, people were queueing up to say we were definitely getting relegated. We weren't. Right now nobody really knows what next season will look like. At least we've got a bit of time to try and get our house in order. | | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:17 - Apr 29 with 2374 views | OldPedro |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 21:56 - Apr 29 by Ned_Kennedys |
Agreed.
The story about his agent speaking to West Brom about the job is clearly true: if not then Cifuentes would have denied it which he hasn’t. He wants to go.
Amongst all the errant nonsense that the ‘intheknow’ experts have been throwing at the wall was Cifuentes was sniffing around the Burnley and Sunderland jobs last summer after about 6 months with us: the guy has always been using us as a foot in the door of English football, knows he can’t take us any further and wants to move on to a ‘bigger’ job and is making his move now as jobs such as WBA, Southampton, Norwich, almost certainly Leicester, possibly Leeds and Ipswich become available.
He wants to leave, he’s not committed to QPR, he shouldn’t be in charge against Sunderland. Resolve quickly and get someone in early.
Looking forward to the ‘are you Nourry’ etc posts from the usual suspects. |
I agree he is ambitious and was always likely to move on, but still think the club have handled this badly.
Comms from the club on almost everything have been poor this season and that seems to come from Nourry. |  |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:18 - Apr 29 with 2356 views | bosh67 |
'Kevin Betsy and Xavi Calm' sounds like a naughty 80s threesome romcom. | |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:19 - Apr 29 with 2332 views | SimplyNico |
Oh dear. We are back to circling the drain. What sane individual would want to come here and answer to data boy or to take on the squad he has so expertly assembled? The only thing keeping us from falling down the plug hole has gone. Lump on for relegation next season. What a sh!tshow. | | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:22 - Apr 29 with 2238 views | stevec |
If it’s true that Marti’s agent had been touting him around then it’s a bit of a slap in the face for the club so hardly surprising they’ve put him on gardening leave.
If the club had let him manage the side at Sunderland it would have shown extraordinary weakness so, for the moment, they’re having to play it by the book and stand him down. It’s the clubs only realistic option from a contractual standpoint that avoids a payout. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:22 - Apr 29 with 2231 views | Hunterhoop |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:01 - Apr 29 by Mr_Beef |
For someone so quick to criticise "in the knows" you're pretty good at presenting your opinions as facts yourself |
And also taking what suits your preconception from those you criticise and ignoring the rest as nonsense. A boxing historian if ever there was one. “I don’t like all the ITK stuff you say, but that bit suits my agenda, so we’ll add that to my argument but ignore the rest.”
As many of us have kept saying, Cifuentes is no angel. On Nourry, you simply don’t want to know/listen though. You’re entrenched. If that’s where you want to be, that’s up to you. But what others are saying is not “errant nonsense”. It’s from first and second hand accounts of the fella, feedback from those closer, and quite easy piecing together of his background, including interviews and quotes he’s given. Ignore if you want. Ignore at your peril, but then I would say that. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:25 - Apr 29 with 2160 views | BklynRanger |
People coming on and moaning about posts being pro-Marti, or even pro-Nourry are missing the point I think.
Nourry seems to have at best tied himself into pursuing the breach of contract approach, so we can presumably avoid paying up all or part of his contract. That's the best he can hope for now. But if the word is out that they don't get on he should still have had it about him to make a semi convincing argument that he's determined to put it all behind them and look forward to next season.
Even if it was complete balls it would have been a position. Instead he's just spat his dummy and made a childish power play that could cost us whatever small but useful compensation we might have managed to get. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:26 - Apr 29 with 2114 views | will16macgill |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:12 - Apr 29 by BrianWilson |
Presume its all Neil Warnock/Clint Hill/Shaun Derry shouts on social media. Honestly think some "fans" on social media haven't a clue whats goin on for years at the club yet still chime in with "Get Warnock back in" everytime we change manager. |
I think its closer to "Bring back Beale" on Twitter than it is to this. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:31 - Apr 29 with 2016 views | queensparker |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:26 - Apr 29 by will16macgill |
I think its closer to "Bring back Beale" on Twitter than it is to this. |
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave (n/t) on 22:32 - Apr 29 with 1991 views | TeddRanger |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave (n/t) on 20:48 - Apr 29 by Mr_Beef |
Fair points. The owners are incompetent, and ultimately the club will drift under their "leadership". Had they appointed a DOF and a separate CEO with experience then we may have made some progress despite that. Instead, well we all know the rest. |
Spot on.
We are in a purgatory where we rely on the owners to put money in, whilst knowing that they haven’t got the slightest clue as to how to run a football club.
I thought Marti was a superb manager and I’m gutted to see him depart. Quite frankly, given what he has had to deal with, I don’t blame him if he’s been making eyes at other clubs.
Nourry is an inexperienced chancer who is totally out of his depth.
Does anyone really think he’ll get a good manager on board who he won’t subsequently fall out with?
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:36 - Apr 29 with 1920 views | eastside_r |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:26 - Apr 29 by will16macgill |
I think its closer to "Bring back Beale" on Twitter than it is to this. |
There’s clearly been faults by both parties (see Clive’s Mummy and Daddy analogy) but I would have preferred for MC to stay and Nourry to get the boot.
Sadly, Marti’s now gone and I think for his role in the debacle Nourry should go too. |  | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:44 - Apr 29 with 1758 views | baz_qpr |
Dave Mc is not one to toe the party line so I'm more likely to believe what he has to say on this [Post edited 29 Apr 22:45]
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| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:46 - Apr 29 with 1720 views | ozexile |
I think there's a lot of naivete on twitter. Football managers are ambitious. Do people really think he came to Loftus Road because he loved QPR. Of course he didn't he came to better himself. He has no loyalty to us, why would he? It'll be the same if he goes to WBA and a premier league come knocking.
And to be honest if my CEO or DOF or whatever name he goes by had presented me with Celar and Madsen as marquee signings I'd be questioning my role at the club too.
Again that's not to say Marti has been perfect some of his selections have been very odd. But as usual we move on. Let's hope next man in can finally add that stubbornness and steel to the team that we desperately need. | | | |
| Cifuentes on gardening leave on 22:47 - Apr 29 with 1707 views | PunteR |
Be interesting to see how the players respond this weekend The whole point of a DoF (I thought) was managers can come and go. But that means the players have to buy into what the DoF does and not the manager doesn't it?.
If the players down tools, which it kinda looked like last Saturday, (although Burnley were immense.) than it should give us an idea of what they think of Nourry. I wouldn't be surprised if Nourry goes too. |  |
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