| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:19 - May 7 with 4286 views | numptydumpty |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:48 - May 7 by aston_hoop |
I don't have an ST, but I'd take a few months off if we hired Rooney. Back when we replace him in October |
Likewise
Can't say I have ever backed AGAINST QPR with any of my own dosh, but if Rooney was appointed, I certainly would gamble that we achieve the wonders of being relegated.
Even we could not be so stupid, surely ???
The data says..... [Post edited 7 May 20:19]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:30 - May 7 with 3876 views | mart_Goblin |
Tom Cleverley being reported as clear favourite now . |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:44 - May 7 with 3809 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:48 - May 7 by aston_hoop |
I don't have an ST, but I'd take a few months off if we hired Rooney. Back when we replace him in October |
For sure. Rooney or Barton would see me tap out for a while. [Post edited 7 May 22:46]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:53 - May 7 with 3754 views | kensalriser |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:30 - May 7 by mart_Goblin |
Tom Cleverley being reported as clear favourite now . |
Hope not. Far greater resources at his disposal and finished one point better. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 23:31 - May 7 with 3604 views | BristolR |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:44 - May 6 by Dorse |
#announcepiss |
#cookingwithpiss |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:27 - May 8 with 3239 views | Gloucs_R |
Ryan Mason and Gary O'Neill are the two favorites for the West brom job. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:38 - May 8 with 3191 views | SW_Ranger |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:27 - May 8 by Gloucs_R |
Ryan Mason and Gary O'Neill are the two favorites for the West brom job. |
Gut feeling says it won’t be a British manager (but who knows - we sure don’t).
Being right in the mix of so many choices, it’s hard to see us being top of anyone’s list right now. So it feels like we’ll get what we get.
Personally I’d prefer not to be taking someone who is just on the regular managerial roundabout (though that’s probably pretty difficult to do these days).
Sage sounds like a wise option and possibly a recipe for success to spice things up.. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 with 3067 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:38 - May 8 by SW_Ranger |
Gut feeling says it won’t be a British manager (but who knows - we sure don’t).
Being right in the mix of so many choices, it’s hard to see us being top of anyone’s list right now. So it feels like we’ll get what we get.
Personally I’d prefer not to be taking someone who is just on the regular managerial roundabout (though that’s probably pretty difficult to do these days).
Sage sounds like a wise option and possibly a recipe for success to spice things up.. |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |  | | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:11 - May 8 with 2968 views | dmm |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
Very interesting post, Clive. Is the way we're now set up with these heads of depts a model increasingly used in football? |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:14 - May 8 with 2932 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
Which, to me, suggests we should hire Michael Sheen to impersonate Brian Clough. Although we can probably only afford Paul Chuckle, who like Clough had his playing career cut short, but is likely holding out for the Rotherham job. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:15 - May 8 with 2921 views | FDC |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
Yeah it'll be someone we've never heard of with a fairly unspectacular history.
The most significant person at the club right now, with whom any success or failure should be attributed, is young Nourry, for it is he who is putting together this distributed network of responsibilities, in which the first team coach is only one role, with a diminished responsibility relative to a typical manger role.
I'm not inherently against it as a model, but have big doubts about his competence to pull it off, on the basis that he doesn't seem to have any prior experience that suggests he does, and on the evidence of his decision making so far. Will gladly be proven wrong though. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:15 - May 8 with 2912 views | slmrstid |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:11 - May 8 by dmm |
Very interesting post, Clive. Is the way we're now set up with these heads of depts a model increasingly used in football? |
Hire a manager/head coach. Give him no control whatsoever over coaching or transfers, fire him when results are bad, whilst everyone else keeps their job and carries on as normal.
Trebles all round! What a deal... |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:30 - May 8 with 2813 views | wombat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
always sombodey to take the job , why wouldnt u take the job on a 2 year deal , and get sacked in jan and get the rest of your contract paid up and then find a job at a football club which isnt as mad as ours ! |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:34 - May 8 with 2774 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:30 - May 8 by wombat |
always sombodey to take the job , why wouldnt u take the job on a 2 year deal , and get sacked in jan and get the rest of your contract paid up and then find a job at a football club which isnt as mad as ours ! |
Yeh it's not me saying "nobody will want it". Literally hundreds of coaches will want it. And I'm not saying this set up is good or bad. I'm just saying a lot of the names I'm seeing linked are, in my opinion, a bit of a pipe dream. The finances and the set up mean it'll be a different calibre, experience and style of coach to that.
I mean Cleverley had absolutely no control at Watford either so maybe, but I reckon it'll be somebody of similar profile to Cifuentes or the guy that Norwich/Plymouth hired. Scandi leagues, Austrian league, Belgian league, German, French, Spanish second division. A coach, not a manager. Probably quite early in the career. I'd usually add lower league British coach to this, but are there a lot of standout candidates down there?
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:40 - May 8 with 2723 views | wombat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:34 - May 8 by Northernr |
Yeh it's not me saying "nobody will want it". Literally hundreds of coaches will want it. And I'm not saying this set up is good or bad. I'm just saying a lot of the names I'm seeing linked are, in my opinion, a bit of a pipe dream. The finances and the set up mean it'll be a different calibre, experience and style of coach to that.
I mean Cleverley had absolutely no control at Watford either so maybe, but I reckon it'll be somebody of similar profile to Cifuentes or the guy that Norwich/Plymouth hired. Scandi leagues, Austrian league, Belgian league, German, French, Spanish second division. A coach, not a manager. Probably quite early in the career. I'd usually add lower league British coach to this, but are there a lot of standout candidates down there?
Watch Pulis get it now |
sounds like pullis is getting the hull job , so thats another manager looking for work,
im getting to the stage pf past caring who comes in to be honest , we wanted stability we sort of got it , then take five steps back again , im going lower league french manager wanting to try his hand in the uk , exactly what we dont need but fits the laptop numbers game we seem to be playing these days | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 with 2639 views | Hunterhoop |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:15 - May 8 by FDC |
Yeah it'll be someone we've never heard of with a fairly unspectacular history.
The most significant person at the club right now, with whom any success or failure should be attributed, is young Nourry, for it is he who is putting together this distributed network of responsibilities, in which the first team coach is only one role, with a diminished responsibility relative to a typical manger role.
I'm not inherently against it as a model, but have big doubts about his competence to pull it off, on the basis that he doesn't seem to have any prior experience that suggests he does, and on the evidence of his decision making so far. Will gladly be proven wrong though. |
Exactly.
It’s astounding we’ve gone down this path with a complete rookie with very little experience in the game, when we did not commit to this path fully when we had a DOF who had his coaching badges and had spent his entire life in the game, and was respected within it. Yes, he wasn’t perfect and made mistakes (as has Nourry), but there would be some logic in it. Now, I just don’t get it. This is the guy we’re trusting? He was running a fledgling social media advisory firm in 2021. He was a recruitment consultant for non-playing staff/back office personnel in football up to 2023. It’s baffling. Anywhere else you’d say “nepotism” but I don’t know the link. I feel it is something to do with Charles Gould’s Dad, but no evidence for that. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 with 2640 views | ngbqpr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
Sounds like a job for the 2025 version of Gigi Di Canio. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:03 - May 8 with 2617 views | TheChef |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly.
It’s astounding we’ve gone down this path with a complete rookie with very little experience in the game, when we did not commit to this path fully when we had a DOF who had his coaching badges and had spent his entire life in the game, and was respected within it. Yes, he wasn’t perfect and made mistakes (as has Nourry), but there would be some logic in it. Now, I just don’t get it. This is the guy we’re trusting? He was running a fledgling social media advisory firm in 2021. He was a recruitment consultant for non-playing staff/back office personnel in football up to 2023. It’s baffling. Anywhere else you’d say “nepotism” but I don’t know the link. I feel it is something to do with Charles Gould’s Dad, but no evidence for that. |
Well it's the guy Hoos is trusting and Ruben seems to be just letting them get on with it.
Any news of our US saviours coming in to buy the club?? |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:09 - May 8 with 2587 views | dmm |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 by ngbqpr |
Sounds like a job for the 2025 version of Gigi Di Canio. |
I'd enjoy that quite a bit! | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:12 - May 8 with 2571 views | wombat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly.
It’s astounding we’ve gone down this path with a complete rookie with very little experience in the game, when we did not commit to this path fully when we had a DOF who had his coaching badges and had spent his entire life in the game, and was respected within it. Yes, he wasn’t perfect and made mistakes (as has Nourry), but there would be some logic in it. Now, I just don’t get it. This is the guy we’re trusting? He was running a fledgling social media advisory firm in 2021. He was a recruitment consultant for non-playing staff/back office personnel in football up to 2023. It’s baffling. Anywhere else you’d say “nepotism” but I don’t know the link. I feel it is something to do with Charles Gould’s Dad, but no evidence for that. |
he must have serious powerpoint skills though , being in that sort of work myself I woudlnt even consider sending a cv of somebody who has zero experience in the role he would be asked to do , and lets be honest if his cv is longer than a page hes doing well .
had concerns when he got the job scared shitless now , letting him have this much power isnt going to end well .
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:15 - May 8 with 2542 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:59 - May 8 by Northernr |
I mean West Brom are pretty tight on ownership funding and FFP themselves, but still went out and spent £10m last season (recouping £8m). Norwich spent £30m and recouped £40m in sales. West Brom's wage bill at their last set of accounts was £42m, so they're spending double what we are, Norwich's was £51m. These are different levels to where we're at so there will be a different calibre of manager attracted to those jobs.
We're also looking very specifically for a head coach, not a manager. Managers often want to bring their own people with them. Here you've got a CEO/DOf, a head of methodology, head of individual player development, head of goalkeeping, head of set pieces, head of performance - none of which are your picks. So, again, that's going to be a certain kind of candidate who's happy to just come and fit into a set up that's already in place, and they have no control over.
Questions managers are going to want to know - is there money to spend, am I in charge of spending it, can I bring three of my coaches with me. And the answer to all of those things here is no. |
But on your middle part about there being a set up, coaches etc, already there, wasn’t that what you had always wanted? I thought you (like me) were tired of the new manager and everything previous has to get chucked in bin and we start again. I guess proof of whether our new “set up” works will be how we’re doing in a couple of years time and how new manager/coach settles in. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:27 - May 8 with 2488 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:15 - May 8 by JamesB1979 |
But on your middle part about there being a set up, coaches etc, already there, wasn’t that what you had always wanted? I thought you (like me) were tired of the new manager and everything previous has to get chucked in bin and we start again. I guess proof of whether our new “set up” works will be how we’re doing in a couple of years time and how new manager/coach settles in. |
I've answered this a few times. Yes, but I didn't expect/want QPR to put the model in place with somebody in the key seat who's never done the job before.
That system, with an experienced DOF and separate CEO. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:54 - May 8 with 2356 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:27 - May 8 by Northernr |
I've answered this a few times. Yes, but I didn't expect/want QPR to put the model in place with somebody in the key seat who's never done the job before.
That system, with an experienced DOF and separate CEO. |
And yet a lot of people on here were more than happy to see the back of Hoos and Ferdinand. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 11:13 - May 8 with 2273 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 10:54 - May 8 by Ned_Kennedys |
And yet a lot of people on here were more than happy to see the back of Hoos and Ferdinand. |
Yes well those people were probably hoping they'd have been replaced by people with demonstrable experience in their respective roles with perhaps even a proven track record rather than giving a 26 year old who'd never before been an employee of a football club both jobs. Those people thought a change were needed to drive progression. It's not their fault they were served a farcical situation as a replacement.
I'd be a bit careful throwing stones too as certain people around here seem 'more than happy to see the back of' Marti Cifuentes. Let's see how those people feel a few games into next season. Pretty much the exact same situation. [Post edited 8 May 11:21]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 11:26 - May 8 with 2189 views | FDC |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:56 - May 8 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly.
It’s astounding we’ve gone down this path with a complete rookie with very little experience in the game, when we did not commit to this path fully when we had a DOF who had his coaching badges and had spent his entire life in the game, and was respected within it. Yes, he wasn’t perfect and made mistakes (as has Nourry), but there would be some logic in it. Now, I just don’t get it. This is the guy we’re trusting? He was running a fledgling social media advisory firm in 2021. He was a recruitment consultant for non-playing staff/back office personnel in football up to 2023. It’s baffling. Anywhere else you’d say “nepotism” but I don’t know the link. I feel it is something to do with Charles Gould’s Dad, but no evidence for that. |
The comparison to Les is interesting, because on the face of it you'd struggle to find someone with more credit in the bank with the supporters, and yet even he ended up being criticized an awful lot, harshly imo. Nourry doesn't have that going for him, nor does he seem to have... how to put it... the common touch, with people - *and* he's wasted no time at all in treating supporters badly in all the ways that Clive has done an excellent job of outlining recently. So even putting competence to one side, it's a remarkable situation just in terms of so much sitting with one individual who seems destined to be just wildly unpopular with the supporters if it goes tits up, and probably even if it doesn't. | | | |
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