| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:08 - Jun 23 with 2578 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 09:33 - Jun 23 by dmm |
Thank you so much. I'd never have known if you hadn't pointed that out. |
My pleasure - I think the point is made (even though you seem to have missed it). |  |
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:17 - Jun 23 with 2620 views | nix |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 10:38 - Jun 23 by nick_hammersmith |
We weren't the only club chasing him though. Don't forget the much lauded recruitment at Brighton also signed him.
I think this is the reality of where QPR is, we have to take chances with our recruitment.
On paper Eze was also a massive punt, released from stacks of other clubs, just looking for the clouds to align and a career to develop.
I think the issue with Taylor is 100% down to personality, which is why the Human part of scouting should never be replaced. I'm sure a Mark Warburton/Neil Warnock experienced person could have worked out his character in 5 mins and decided it would never work out |
I think he was a Beale signing not a data related signing. Reminds me of Tyler Roberts, Laird, Iroegbunan, all way too up themselves and lazy. |  | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:23 - Jun 23 with 2561 views | QPRSam |
I think the move to us was the worst he could have done. It was a nice thought, the local guy, childhood supporting. But ultimately that was probably his undoing with the local influence. He should have stayed up north, he showed a lot of promise at Doncaster but nothing since |  | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:29 - Jun 23 with 2521 views | 7374Ranger |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 10:38 - Jun 23 by nick_hammersmith |
We weren't the only club chasing him though. Don't forget the much lauded recruitment at Brighton also signed him.
I think this is the reality of where QPR is, we have to take chances with our recruitment.
On paper Eze was also a massive punt, released from stacks of other clubs, just looking for the clouds to align and a career to develop.
I think the issue with Taylor is 100% down to personality, which is why the Human part of scouting should never be replaced. I'm sure a Mark Warburton/Neil Warnock experienced person could have worked out his character in 5 mins and decided it would never work out |
I agree with the Warburton/Warnock comment. That's how managers used to recruit players. Although Warnock did sign SWP and Bothroyd (although the latter was desperate signing largely down to Flavio & Eccleston refusing to fund new transfers). | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:36 - Jun 23 with 2482 views | 7374Ranger |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 12:56 - Jun 23 by dmm |
Interesting. There are supposed to be a number of clubs after him including Charlton, Watford and Preston. At 5' 11" he's a bit on the small side for a CB, but he can play RB as well. |
Paul Parker was a few inches shorter, but was a decent defender for us in the First Division. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:40 - Jun 23 with 2453 views | QPRSam |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:36 - Jun 23 by 7374Ranger |
Paul Parker was a few inches shorter, but was a decent defender for us in the First Division. |
We don't even have to go that far back. Ronnie Lee Edwards, Height - 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:58 - Jun 23 with 2338 views | lassel |
Another £1m burned through….
At this point it might be cathartic to literally burn it in the centre circle and sell tickets. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 15:38 - Jun 23 with 2203 views | numptydumpty |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:17 - Jun 23 by nix |
I think he was a Beale signing not a data related signing. Reminds me of Tyler Roberts, Laird, Iroegbunan, all way too up themselves and lazy. |
Was strange how that Beale squad made it to the top of the division after quite a number of games but then a lot of them reverted to type.
Was amazed when saw Iroegbunam featuring reasonably regularly for Villa.
Thought he was ok ish for us, but cut him some slack as was only 19 and played very regularly at one point but never saw him much above an Andre Dozzell type player and surprised he has stayed at Villa. Must have had some hidden depths.
But Laird and Roberts agree. Both appeared like they were too good for us when in reality they were worse.
Richards though, for whatever reasons, I suspect his mental health, but none of us can be sure about that. His career is finished as a pro footballer.
Not even at National League level.
It happens and despite all the fans being disappointed by him and his non performances or non availability, I do hope he can get to a better place for him. I doubt any player particularly chucks in a career at the start of his ascent.
We had plenty that have done it to us on the way down.
Seems like WestLondonSport is the mouthpiece of QPR as I expect everything that they write to happen.
An announcement a day keeps the Nourry monster away !!! [Post edited 23 Jun 15:40]
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 15:45 - Jun 23 with 2186 views | QPRSam |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 15:38 - Jun 23 by numptydumpty |
Was strange how that Beale squad made it to the top of the division after quite a number of games but then a lot of them reverted to type.
Was amazed when saw Iroegbunam featuring reasonably regularly for Villa.
Thought he was ok ish for us, but cut him some slack as was only 19 and played very regularly at one point but never saw him much above an Andre Dozzell type player and surprised he has stayed at Villa. Must have had some hidden depths.
But Laird and Roberts agree. Both appeared like they were too good for us when in reality they were worse.
Richards though, for whatever reasons, I suspect his mental health, but none of us can be sure about that. His career is finished as a pro footballer.
Not even at National League level.
It happens and despite all the fans being disappointed by him and his non performances or non availability, I do hope he can get to a better place for him. I doubt any player particularly chucks in a career at the start of his ascent.
We had plenty that have done it to us on the way down.
Seems like WestLondonSport is the mouthpiece of QPR as I expect everything that they write to happen.
An announcement a day keeps the Nourry monster away !!! [Post edited 23 Jun 15:40]
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"Was amazed when saw Iroegbunam featuring reasonably regularly for Villa"
Wait until you realise he's since transferred to Everton for £10m and made a further 21 appearances (including an assist to the last minute equaliser vs Liverpool)! | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 15:51 - Jun 23 with 2133 views | numptydumpty |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 15:45 - Jun 23 by QPRSam |
"Was amazed when saw Iroegbunam featuring reasonably regularly for Villa"
Wait until you realise he's since transferred to Everton for £10m and made a further 21 appearances (including an assist to the last minute equaliser vs Liverpool)! |
Oh yes he did.
I still very surprised at his supposed success at premiership level.
I hadn't seen anything in him to suggest he would do any better than bog standard quality championship player at best. | |
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:02 - Jun 23 with 2111 views | kensalriser |
In truth Iroegbunam doesn't really belong in the catgegory of wasters from that season, in fact the entire notion is a bit of a lazy shorthand.
I thought he showed a lot of potential but was in dire need of coaching. Laird was OK, perhaps even quite good to begin with but went missing when the going got tough. Tyler Roberts was in Minder parlance a right tart. No need to add to the millions of words already written about Richards. |  |
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:14 - Jun 23 with 2047 views | Jules4367 |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 12:10 - Jun 23 by Gloucs_R |
Who? |
You beat me to it!   | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:17 - Jun 23 with 2049 views | ngbqpr |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 14:58 - Jun 23 by lassel |
Another £1m burned through….
At this point it might be cathartic to literally burn it in the centre circle and sell tickets. |
Oh come on - every club makes transfer mistakes. It's nature of the beast.
It's getting a better hits to misses ratio than the competition that dictates how well you do.
The much-heralded Brighton model also invested in Richards. We took the gamble after their gamble failed cos we're that much further down the food chain. Look at how many people kept taking gambles on Ravel Morison, thinking we might be the ones to get it right with him.
And as Clive points out regularly - our situation means we need to take more gambles than most as the more boxes they tick, the less likely we can afford them.
Of course our recent history is stuffed with transfers that didn't work out, but I'm sure you could find similar sentiments on the LFW equivalents of at least another two or three dozen clubs. |  |
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 17:59 - Jun 23 with 1847 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:17 - Jun 23 by ngbqpr |
Oh come on - every club makes transfer mistakes. It's nature of the beast.
It's getting a better hits to misses ratio than the competition that dictates how well you do.
The much-heralded Brighton model also invested in Richards. We took the gamble after their gamble failed cos we're that much further down the food chain. Look at how many people kept taking gambles on Ravel Morison, thinking we might be the ones to get it right with him.
And as Clive points out regularly - our situation means we need to take more gambles than most as the more boxes they tick, the less likely we can afford them.
Of course our recent history is stuffed with transfers that didn't work out, but I'm sure you could find similar sentiments on the LFW equivalents of at least another two or three dozen clubs. |
With respect, I don't think it's the failure to work that annoys as much as the fact that he didn't seem to care or make a decent go of it, that really wrankles.
We know our situation requires gambles, and some will work out others not. But as mentioned above, what real due diligence was done on the guy. If the Rangers rely too much on numbers and not characters, then you run the risk of buying time wasters. If a bloke doesn't work out but he's given it his all, then we shrug shoulders, shake hands, and wish each other the best. With TR, that's not happened. He's not put the hard yards in, for whatever reason(s). So adieu. [Post edited 23 Jun 18:20]
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 18:27 - Jun 23 with 1770 views | nomar |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 17:59 - Jun 23 by PlanetHonneywood |
With respect, I don't think it's the failure to work that annoys as much as the fact that he didn't seem to care or make a decent go of it, that really wrankles.
We know our situation requires gambles, and some will work out others not. But as mentioned above, what real due diligence was done on the guy. If the Rangers rely too much on numbers and not characters, then you run the risk of buying time wasters. If a bloke doesn't work out but he's given it his all, then we shrug shoulders, shake hands, and wish each other the best. With TR, that's not happened. He's not put the hard yards in, for whatever reason(s). So adieu. [Post edited 23 Jun 18:20]
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A guy who has rewritten the definition of “robbing a living”. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 18:42 - Jun 23 with 1696 views | lassel |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:17 - Jun 23 by ngbqpr |
Oh come on - every club makes transfer mistakes. It's nature of the beast.
It's getting a better hits to misses ratio than the competition that dictates how well you do.
The much-heralded Brighton model also invested in Richards. We took the gamble after their gamble failed cos we're that much further down the food chain. Look at how many people kept taking gambles on Ravel Morison, thinking we might be the ones to get it right with him.
And as Clive points out regularly - our situation means we need to take more gambles than most as the more boxes they tick, the less likely we can afford them.
Of course our recent history is stuffed with transfers that didn't work out, but I'm sure you could find similar sentiments on the LFW equivalents of at least another two or three dozen clubs. |
Every club is entitled to errors, even catastrophic ones like Richards. The frustration is that seemingly at no point in the process of giving him a lucrative long term deal did anybody stop and ask why Brighton were willing to take a loss on him so quickly and bent over backwards to facilitate the deal. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 18:42 - Jun 23 with 1693 views | Northernr |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:17 - Jun 23 by ngbqpr |
Oh come on - every club makes transfer mistakes. It's nature of the beast.
It's getting a better hits to misses ratio than the competition that dictates how well you do.
The much-heralded Brighton model also invested in Richards. We took the gamble after their gamble failed cos we're that much further down the food chain. Look at how many people kept taking gambles on Ravel Morison, thinking we might be the ones to get it right with him.
And as Clive points out regularly - our situation means we need to take more gambles than most as the more boxes they tick, the less likely we can afford them.
Of course our recent history is stuffed with transfers that didn't work out, but I'm sure you could find similar sentiments on the LFW equivalents of at least another two or three dozen clubs. |
Agree mate. The particular frustration here is they were told, repeatedly, including by their own scouts, not to do this one under any circs. They pressed on regardless because Beale insisted - manager wants manager gets in action again.
I was very supportive of Les throughout his time here but he really ballsed up that 18 month period. He didn’t even want to do the deal himself.
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 18:52 - Jun 23 with 1632 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 18:42 - Jun 23 by Northernr |
Agree mate. The particular frustration here is they were told, repeatedly, including by their own scouts, not to do this one under any circs. They pressed on regardless because Beale insisted - manager wants manager gets in action again.
I was very supportive of Les throughout his time here but he really ballsed up that 18 month period. He didn’t even want to do the deal himself.
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So, you're saying: it boils down to Beale! | |
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:03 - Jun 23 with 1483 views | Andybrat |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 12:47 - Jun 23 by aston_hoop |
After chatting to some Reading fans, I've never been more keen to sign someone than Mbengue. They're talking about him in legendary terms there |
Ditto
His biggest asset is his pace and apparently jumps like a Salmon | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:06 - Jun 23 with 1461 views | Northernr |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:03 - Jun 23 by Andybrat |
Ditto
His biggest asset is his pace and apparently jumps like a Salmon |
Fck me, pace?! | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:13 - Jun 23 with 1424 views | numptydumpty |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:03 - Jun 23 by Andybrat |
Ditto
His biggest asset is his pace and apparently jumps like a Salmon |
If this Mbengue is what is muted,what with Morrison also showing extreme promise at a very young age also.
Centre back pairing supreme for QPR.
M and M indeed !!! [Post edited 23 Jun 20:14]
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| Taylor Richards finally going? on 22:07 - Jun 23 with 1170 views | nix |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 16:02 - Jun 23 by kensalriser |
In truth Iroegbunam doesn't really belong in the catgegory of wasters from that season, in fact the entire notion is a bit of a lazy shorthand.
I thought he showed a lot of potential but was in dire need of coaching. Laird was OK, perhaps even quite good to begin with but went missing when the going got tough. Tyler Roberts was in Minder parlance a right tart. No need to add to the millions of words already written about Richards. |
He looked lazy to me. Did the odd decisive dribble every match but didn't want to do the link up play, tackling and tracking back that are equally important.
How he plays now is irrelevant. He wasn't brought in as Yang-style back up. We needed him to hit the ground running. That he couldn't do that is not the player's fault - FFS Beale must have known him from Villa. But it is a counterpoint to the oft-repeated 'truth' that physically scouted people are invariably better.
That season Middlesboro had Cameron Archer from Villa, 11 goals, six assists; Cardiff had Jaden Philogene, four goals and one assist, we had Tim, two goals in 32 appearances. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 22:22 - Jun 23 with 1117 views | Maggsinho |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 22:07 - Jun 23 by nix |
He looked lazy to me. Did the odd decisive dribble every match but didn't want to do the link up play, tackling and tracking back that are equally important.
How he plays now is irrelevant. He wasn't brought in as Yang-style back up. We needed him to hit the ground running. That he couldn't do that is not the player's fault - FFS Beale must have known him from Villa. But it is a counterpoint to the oft-repeated 'truth' that physically scouted people are invariably better.
That season Middlesboro had Cameron Archer from Villa, 11 goals, six assists; Cardiff had Jaden Philogene, four goals and one assist, we had Tim, two goals in 32 appearances. |
Not sure you’re comparing apples with apples there, Philogene is a winger and Archer a striker. |  | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 22:43 - Jun 23 with 1027 views | SW_Ranger |
Jesus is leaving the building. Looks like Judas is following at last. | | | |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 01:16 - Jun 24 with 826 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Taylor Richards finally going? on 20:03 - Jun 23 by Andybrat |
Ditto
His biggest asset is his pace and apparently jumps like a Salmon |
"Leaps like a salmon"
Live, smoked, or tinned? | | | |
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