| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:01 - May 20 with 3157 views | wombat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:35 - May 20 by Hunterhoop |
Nourry and Hoos are adamant that out injuries this season are only “mid table” for the league.
Nourry walked out of LR at one of the last home games repeating this message to fans.
Obviously, the question I’d love to be asked is: “how are your measuring that?” Number of games missed by squad players? Number of injuries overall? What about weighting the games missed to first teamers and back ups? And what about training sessions missed; it’s not only about games. Finally, where are you getting the data for the rest of the league from?
Without answers here, it’s just BS being flung around. We all follow the club closely. We know injuries have been bad this season. Perhaps not dreadful or the worst ever. But bad. And made worse by the quality and depth of the squad assembled. I still think Cifuentes did a remarkable job with it.
The club must resolve the Ben Williams issue. You cannot set standards, create a professional culture, and improve the fitness of the team with the Head of Fitness (Performance, fine) being based remote in Dubai. I cannot fathom how Nourry and Hoos cannot see this. It’s not about whether he can do his role from a laptop; it’s about perception, standards, and professionalism. That needs sorting almost as much as a new Head Coach; it’s that ridiculous in my book. |
by them doing something about williams in a postive manner , as in sacking him it would mean that the manager was correct otherwise why would he need sacking ? its a power game at the club now prob worse than when GP and his merry men were there.both nourry and hoos have been made to look less than brillaint at there jobs by marti so thye was always going to after him , its pretty obvious to all that nourry isnt a people person , zero interaction with the fans , one badly staged fans forum , yet some swallow every drop from the golden boy yes hes done some great things since he arrrived some promisiing youth players have come in , some who hopefully will make the first team and be sold for mega money in the coming years . but on the flip side nourry should no wy be running the club lock stock and barrell , as proven by how bqdly hes fecked this manager situation up pretty much doen to a brused ego from marti saying some truthful things about how things should be |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:04 - May 20 with 3129 views | TheChef |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:31 - May 20 by bullshootr |
You'll burn in the deepest circles of Hell for that one, boyo.
Unless the Buddhists are right about karma, in which case you'll probably come back supporting QPR.
There's tidy :-) |
Latest rumour is Beale is approaching the deepest circles of Hull... |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 with 3103 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:04 - May 20 by TheChef |
Latest rumour is Beale is approaching the deepest circles of Hull... |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:07 - May 20 with 3088 views | wombat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
just one bottle ? | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:59 - May 20 with 2844 views | BAWHoops |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
He has the ingredients to be a good manager. Lest we forget he was doing well for us before he went to Rangers far to early in his career.
The Sunderland job was just weird. They hated him, he hated them.
A scrappy London club where he can have them batting above their station is perfect for him.
Hull a basket case, he'd be better off going to League 1 and starting from there |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:05 - May 20 with 2793 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
Wine? Or local turps? |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:41 - May 20 with 2576 views | silverbirch |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
Even if you’re right, it’s still wrong. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:46 - May 20 with 2495 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:33 - May 20 by TK1 |
Palace went up in 2013. That's 12 years ago! We came down that year. We had three years to get it right, pioneer exactly what Palace did in the years after us (with less money), but we did the exact opposite and now that era is over. It's gone.
You're right that a team can fluke it into the play-offs still - having a Bristol City or Coventry season is obtainable with the right manager. But none of us in that bracket are staying up even if get through the play-offs. Burnley and Leeds look the best equipped for a while, but we're aeons away.
Yeah, Palace found a way to stay up between 2013 and 2016, to get a foot hold in the Prem (while getting to an FA Cup Final during this period!). But the best thing they did was hire a proper sporting director in 2017, someone apart from the board, someone with a really good eye for players and a brilliantly ruthless system. Dougie Freedman was not sitting in on Norwood council meetings trying to argue for a new stand or organise a comms policy. He was running the best recruitment team in London.
We're so far off that, let alone Palace in 2013 - which is a dead model now that B'rum and Wrexham are coming up with all that investment. It's just not comparable, unfortunately. |
Yes, it's all far too depressing if you think about it for too long as it's getting harder for non-parachute payment clubs to even get up, never mind stay there.
Maybe that's what Ruben thinks too and he's giving everyone a big laugh. Why appoint an experienced DOF when you can hire a social media 'expert' who's been sitting in the Bodleian for the last few years? It's pure Python. | | | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:48 - May 20 with 2487 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
Who'd trust him though? I still don't understand the logic of taking a job you had no intention of keeping if a better offer came along. It makes him look a dick and was only going to work if he won the league with Rangers. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:54 - May 20 with 2480 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
A bottle of Thunderbirds with lunch! Nice.
I used to think he might come good but the fact is he's basically lived off one great month with us. Objectively failed at Rangers and Sunderland. And more than just the coaching side he seems to have an impressive ability to p1ss people off mainly through his ego's needs.
I reckon that month plus the narrative that he was behind Stevie G's short lived success (pushed and promoted by his burner accounts no doubt!) might just get him one more decent ish job. Then surely that's it. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:03 - May 20 with 2399 views | QPunkR |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:54 - May 20 by 1BobbyHazell |
A bottle of Thunderbirds with lunch! Nice.
I used to think he might come good but the fact is he's basically lived off one great month with us. Objectively failed at Rangers and Sunderland. And more than just the coaching side he seems to have an impressive ability to p1ss people off mainly through his ego's needs.
I reckon that month plus the narrative that he was behind Stevie G's short lived success (pushed and promoted by his burner accounts no doubt!) might just get him one more decent ish job. Then surely that's it. |
I can't even see him getting that, at present |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:21 - May 20 with 2291 views | Beckenhamhoop |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:09 - May 20 by terryb |
Going by your interpretation, isn't Nourry guilty of breaching his employment contract when he applied/was approached/interviewed for his current job at Rangers?
Perhaps he was self employed, but taking a job with the client that you were auditing would surely question his integrity? At least, as much as you appear to be questioning Cifuentes.
Personally, I don't think there is any chance of Cifuentes returning & the sooner the club pay him off, the better it will be for all. |
Surely as a QPR supporter it would be better if Cifuentes left by mutual consent thereby saving the club a not insignificant amount of money? | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:42 - May 20 with 2171 views | terryb |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:21 - May 20 by Beckenhamhoop |
Surely as a QPR supporter it would be better if Cifuentes left by mutual consent thereby saving the club a not insignificant amount of money? |
And why would he do that?
Not many people walk out of their job with no employment lined up. I did, but I was only six months away from retirement & the mortgage repaid. Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend taking such action! | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:53 - May 20 with 2089 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 12:22 - May 20 by nadera78 |
I try not to do this on here but, seriously, your comment on our squad strength is laughable. It's a L1 squad being kept in the Championship by a coaching staff finding ways to get results in key games. |
It’s laughable to call it a ‘League 1 squad’ as we aren’t and haven’t been in League 1 for years.
‘We have a League 1 squad’ should be in the glossary thread if it’s not already. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:01 - May 20 with 2056 views | ytt28 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
Must've been a very strong wine to write that comment. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:11 - May 20 with 1964 views | 1JD |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:42 - May 20 by Andybrat |
With the injury crisis at the back, we seem to forget our young inexperienced CEO sanctioned the season defining loan in of Ronnie Edwards. 1st day of the window as well, not saying he’s perfect but not all bad. Lots of us at the cup final last week and some of the best performers signed under his watch. If we don’t perform next season he is bound to be under pressure as can’t blame anyone else. I have said this before I am a big Marti fan but really feel the squad strength is better than pre-Nourry. If JD and Koki signed, with Vale lined up and fit and somehow Ben Williams replaced locally ( or he comes back) we are an exciting project for a new coach. I feel I’m being balanced, we all know the best solution ( kiss and make up) but it ain’t gonna happen. |
There was a full on dossier and extensive scouting report on Ronnie Edwards prior to Nourry’s time at the club. If anyone deserves credit for being able to pull the trigger quickly on that signing, it’s Andy Belk and co. All the hard graft had been done prior; the real mistake / missed opportunity was not taking Edwards out on a perm at an earlier date. Albeit, P’Boro wanted serious money, when FFP wouldn’t allow that sort of expense, so it was always difficult to pull off. [Post edited 20 May 19:13]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:22 - May 20 with 1910 views | francisbowles |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:59 - May 20 by BAWHoops |
He has the ingredients to be a good manager. Lest we forget he was doing well for us before he went to Rangers far to early in his career.
The Sunderland job was just weird. They hated him, he hated them.
A scrappy London club where he can have them batting above their station is perfect for him.
Hull a basket case, he'd be better off going to League 1 and starting from there |
Was he doing well for us? No win in six when he left!
Yes, he had a good spell and got us to top of the table, briefly.
He never really showed how he coped with a bad run and screwed us financially, with his insistence that we couldn't sell anyone of our assets.
Overall 9-4-9 but had he/we been worked out before he left? | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:46 - May 20 with 1785 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:21 - May 20 by Beckenhamhoop |
Surely as a QPR supporter it would be better if Cifuentes left by mutual consent thereby saving the club a not insignificant amount of money? |
That's the sort of sound, reasonable thinking we could have done with in the boardroom three weeks ago. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:48 - May 20 with 1774 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:01 - May 20 by ytt28 |
Must've been a very strong wine to write that comment. |
It's the summer, I haven't seen QPR play for three weeks, I can feel myself relaxing. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:49 - May 20 with 1768 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:54 - May 20 by 1BobbyHazell |
A bottle of Thunderbirds with lunch! Nice.
I used to think he might come good but the fact is he's basically lived off one great month with us. Objectively failed at Rangers and Sunderland. And more than just the coaching side he seems to have an impressive ability to p1ss people off mainly through his ego's needs.
I reckon that month plus the narrative that he was behind Stevie G's short lived success (pushed and promoted by his burner accounts no doubt!) might just get him one more decent ish job. Then surely that's it. |
Yeh next one absolutely has to go well. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:54 - May 20 with 1520 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:11 - May 20 by 1JD |
There was a full on dossier and extensive scouting report on Ronnie Edwards prior to Nourry’s time at the club. If anyone deserves credit for being able to pull the trigger quickly on that signing, it’s Andy Belk and co. All the hard graft had been done prior; the real mistake / missed opportunity was not taking Edwards out on a perm at an earlier date. Albeit, P’Boro wanted serious money, when FFP wouldn’t allow that sort of expense, so it was always difficult to pull off. [Post edited 20 May 19:13]
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I've always thought the same when I hear that 'the club should have signed' a particular player earlier in his career.
Sometimes, maybe they really wanted to but just couldn't afford it. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:46 - May 20 with 1140 views | kensalriser |
Anyone heard Jimmy Dunne player manager? Probably deserves a new thread. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:21 - May 21 with 610 views | SW_Ranger |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:06 - May 20 by Northernr |
Am I wrong for thinking Beale might still do a good job for somebody? If his recent chastening experiences have knocked a few of his cnty edges off. Bit more humble...
(I had a bottle of wine with lunch) |
I think you need another bottle after those heinous thoughts!! | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 08:27 - May 21 with 580 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:54 - May 20 by BrianMcCarthy |
I've always thought the same when I hear that 'the club should have signed' a particular player earlier in his career.
Sometimes, maybe they really wanted to but just couldn't afford it. |
Edwards that timing fits, though could have picked him up from Barnet when Peterborough did.
Rudoni it doesn't. We were spending more money on worse players at the point he went from Wimbledon to Huddersfield.
And when they did get some money to spend last summer, they spent it on Madsen and Celar. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 09:50 - May 21 with 317 views | Andybrat |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:11 - May 20 by 1JD |
There was a full on dossier and extensive scouting report on Ronnie Edwards prior to Nourry’s time at the club. If anyone deserves credit for being able to pull the trigger quickly on that signing, it’s Andy Belk and co. All the hard graft had been done prior; the real mistake / missed opportunity was not taking Edwards out on a perm at an earlier date. Albeit, P’Boro wanted serious money, when FFP wouldn’t allow that sort of expense, so it was always difficult to pull off. [Post edited 20 May 19:13]
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Maybe or maybe not but loan was sanctioned under his watch, agree would have been amazing if we got him earlier. Heard Clive’s podcast on defenders yesterday and no one can disagree Nourry made the wrong call here. | | | |
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