| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:38 - May 31 with 2907 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:02 - May 31 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Not necessarily. U can still bring someone in. Also, if Cifuentes has breached the terms of his contract, then QPR could go legal, so no payout, and the board would have done this with legal advice, not Nourry on his own.
We'll have our targets, so I'm not panicking.
It's all a bit of a mess, but there is certainly a pattern emerging. I think this is being done to put a marker in the ground and state publicly that QPR won't be taken advantage of anymore.
Kollis alleged contract situation 9 months, don't sign don't play.
Cifuentes alleged contact with WBA, you're finished here.
Not pushing for a 1st team place by 21 years old, you're out.
Personally, I'm sick of people taking the pish out of us, so I much prefer this style than having our tummy tickled. |
Want to work for the Brooklyn Nets and live in Dubai? OUT.
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:39 - May 31 with 2881 views | vanrrrr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:16 - May 31 by mart_Goblin |
You are aware that clubs would still have to pay compensation right now , knowing that sooner rather than later QPR will have to pay him off and he become a free agent? Why would anyone do that especially at mid championship level . |
Apparently Schalke paid a million release for the guy at Plymouth and Norwich paid a release for Manning. So they can get a manager in and sorted as a transfer window starts and properly plan off season…. i know, what is this wizardry?!
I like Marti and wish he’d stayed as we won’t find anyone much better but I do think we may have over estimated his appeal to others. [Post edited 31 May 13:47]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:46 - May 31 with 2785 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:16 - May 31 by mart_Goblin |
You are aware that clubs would still have to pay compensation right now , knowing that sooner rather than later QPR will have to pay him off and he become a free agent? Why would anyone do that especially at mid championship level . |
Firstly this is club decision not just Nourry. Secondly, I think the club made decision when they did because they didn’t want to have the whole summer of uncertainty about whether he was staying or not. Last summer being an example. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:46 - May 31 with 2785 views | Match82 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 12:25 - May 31 by Pindarus |
If Cifuentes really is the bees knees and so much better than most of the candidates being discussed, how come he hasn't been snapped up by another club?
Perhaps he's not quite as wonderful as some people seem to think. |
You can argue for or against the fact that he's better than other candidates being discussed
What's absolutely not arguable is that there's no way he's coming back and the way this situation has been handled will have put off some potentially good replacements.
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:51 - May 31 with 2751 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:46 - May 31 by JamesB1979 |
Firstly this is club decision not just Nourry. Secondly, I think the club made decision when they did because they didn’t want to have the whole summer of uncertainty about whether he was staying or not. Last summer being an example. |
I’m loving all the certainty we’ve been blessed with this summer. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:57 - May 31 with 2721 views | DannyPaddox |
I keep reading that legally we can’t employ a coach while Marti is still at the club (albeit on gardening leave). Can’t the club get round that semantically by employing someone and just giving them a new title, ‘chief assistant of turf operations’ or some such. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:11 - May 31 with 2633 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:57 - May 31 by DannyPaddox |
I keep reading that legally we can’t employ a coach while Marti is still at the club (albeit on gardening leave). Can’t the club get round that semantically by employing someone and just giving them a new title, ‘chief assistant of turf operations’ or some such. |
It’s a bit of a myth that seems to have sprung up out of nowhere. As with any employment contract it *could* be a theoretical issue if Cifuentes pursued it but he’s going to happily keep taking his paycheque whilst waiting for a new club to snap him up. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:15 - May 31 with 2604 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 12:25 - May 31 by Pindarus |
If Cifuentes really is the bees knees and so much better than most of the candidates being discussed, how come he hasn't been snapped up by another club?
Perhaps he's not quite as wonderful as some people seem to think. |
Same reason the eminently better Röhl hasn’t been snapped up either - there’s a lot of competition for not many jobs, not just from out of work managers here but also European managers wanting to get on the gravy train. | | | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:27 - May 31 with 2506 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:51 - May 31 by Northernr |
I’m loving all the certainty we’ve been blessed with this summer. |
The players are all on holiday. Certainty in May and June isn’t that important. For the players and next season, we need to have someone in place for start of pre-season. What we don’t want is to have a manager at start of pre-season who may be gone by start of the league. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:39 - May 31 with 2435 views | KensalT |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:15 - May 31 by lassel |
Same reason the eminently better Röhl hasn’t been snapped up either - there’s a lot of competition for not many jobs, not just from out of work managers here but also European managers wanting to get on the gravy train. |
Plenty of aspiring young European managers have come to the Championship and fallen flat on their face.
Rohl and Cifuentes have proven they can do a job in the Championship and they have both done it in fairly chaotic circumstances.
Maybe the big obstacle to them moving on is that the buyout clauses in their contracts are just a bit too steep for any Championship club that doesn't have the benefit of parachute payments. [Post edited 31 May 18:02]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:41 - May 31 with 2410 views | lave16 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:39 - May 31 by KensalT |
Plenty of aspiring young European managers have come to the Championship and fallen flat on their face.
Rohl and Cifuentes have proven they can do a job in the Championship and they have both done it in fairly chaotic circumstances.
Maybe the big obstacle to them moving on is that the buyout clauses in their contracts are just a bit too steep for any Championship club that doesn't have the benefit of parachute payments. [Post edited 31 May 18:02]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:47 - May 31 with 2358 views | QPR_Jim |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:27 - May 31 by JamesB1979 |
The players are all on holiday. Certainty in May and June isn’t that important. For the players and next season, we need to have someone in place for start of pre-season. What we don’t want is to have a manager at start of pre-season who may be gone by start of the league. |
I thought that the DoF arrangement was supposed to offer that continuity so that the head coach leaving wasn't a massive issue, are you saying our DoF isn't up to it or are you worried about our CEO's ability for continuity planning? |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:00 - May 31 with 2236 views | LazyFan |
So, if a L1 club can do it then we should be able to as well.
This is the question that should be asked at the fans forum.
Can we have monthly updates like this from the club as L1 club can do it? |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:04 - May 31 with 2207 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 14:47 - May 31 by QPR_Jim |
I thought that the DoF arrangement was supposed to offer that continuity so that the head coach leaving wasn't a massive issue, are you saying our DoF isn't up to it or are you worried about our CEO's ability for continuity planning? |
I’m trying to think of reasons why the club did what they did. But as for your question, it’s pretty obvious that having a coach leaving mid-way through your pre-season is pretty disruptive. Much more so than at end of season. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:13 - May 31 with 2140 views | mart_Goblin |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:46 - May 31 by JamesB1979 |
Firstly this is club decision not just Nourry. Secondly, I think the club made decision when they did because they didn’t want to have the whole summer of uncertainty about whether he was staying or not. Last summer being an example. |
Have another read and let me know where I said it was Nourry’s not the clubs decision .
But, now you mention it, it is the same thing .
The decision was taken months ago, hence the haste he was thrown on gardening leave for not doing anything different to any other manager OR CLUB in football.
I think it’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water .
I’m over Marti. He was only passing through, same as everyone else except us .
Moved on ….Shame the club hasn’t. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:25 - May 31 with 1575 views | ArcticHoop |
Cinel, Thorup and Stephan all even now 4/1 | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:36 - May 31 with 1487 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:51 - May 31 by Northernr |
I’m loving all the certainty we’ve been blessed with this summer. |
It’s not even June yet….. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:41 - May 31 with 1440 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 15:13 - May 31 by mart_Goblin |
Have another read and let me know where I said it was Nourry’s not the clubs decision .
But, now you mention it, it is the same thing .
The decision was taken months ago, hence the haste he was thrown on gardening leave for not doing anything different to any other manager OR CLUB in football.
I think it’s called throwing the baby out with the bath water .
I’m over Marti. He was only passing through, same as everyone else except us .
Moved on ….Shame the club hasn’t. |
So you know the reasons he was put on gardening leave?
Think the fact he was leaking information like a sieve might have been a factor. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:57 - May 31 with 1345 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 13:38 - May 31 by Northernr |
Want to work for the Brooklyn Nets and live in Dubai? OUT.
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I never said it was perfect, but I'm sick of managers/players treating this club like shyte.
Look at the Joel Lynch link, disgraceful and if Nourry can do something different then I'm all in.
We have been going from crisis to joke and back again numerous times over the past 30 years and it needs to change.
I want PL football and I want to watch exciting football. Marti kept us up, but Christ the football was garbage for all of last season. U can count the number of good performances on one hand, it had to change and MC gave them the excuse. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:29 - May 31 with 1205 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:36 - May 31 by Ned_Kennedys |
It’s not even June yet….. |
It’s amazing. Based on what many were saying on here, there was no chance of Marti staying. And most of same people are saying he was looking for other jobs and that’s fine. If he was still our manager, knowing all that, how on earth could we be in a better position today? We’d be going into a big pre-season with a manager who in all likelihood would be gone before the season kicks off. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:31 - May 31 with 1195 views | Rangersw12 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:57 - May 31 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I never said it was perfect, but I'm sick of managers/players treating this club like shyte.
Look at the Joel Lynch link, disgraceful and if Nourry can do something different then I'm all in.
We have been going from crisis to joke and back again numerous times over the past 30 years and it needs to change.
I want PL football and I want to watch exciting football. Marti kept us up, but Christ the football was garbage for all of last season. U can count the number of good performances on one hand, it had to change and MC gave them the excuse. |
I'm 100% certain it will be worse next season if fact I can't see anything other than relegation | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:38 - May 31 with 1161 views | QPRJill |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:57 - May 31 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I never said it was perfect, but I'm sick of managers/players treating this club like shyte.
Look at the Joel Lynch link, disgraceful and if Nourry can do something different then I'm all in.
We have been going from crisis to joke and back again numerous times over the past 30 years and it needs to change.
I want PL football and I want to watch exciting football. Marti kept us up, but Christ the football was garbage for all of last season. U can count the number of good performances on one hand, it had to change and MC gave them the excuse. |
With all the injuries Marti had to deal with it wasn`t really that easy to play exciting football Imo. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:45 - May 31 with 1103 views | HammersmithR |
Well this is what AI says about Onur Cinel…
Onur Cinel is recognised for his dynamic, high-intensity football philosophy, shaped by his extensive experience in youth development and his tenure within the Red Bull football network. His approach is characterised by proactive pressing, swift transitions, and a commitment to attacking play. 
Coaching Background and Influences
Cinel’s coaching journey began in the youth systems of Rot-Weiss Essen and Schalke 04, where he spent over a decade honing his skills. At Schalke, he notably led the U17 team to consecutive West German championships and secured the 2021/22 B Juniors Bundesliga title, achieving an impressive points average of 2.66 per match . His development was further enriched by internships at esteemed clubs such as Chelsea, Ajax, and Manchester City under Pep Guardiola, providing him with a diverse tactical perspective . 
Tactical Philosophy
Cinel’s teams are known for their:
• High Pressing: Implementing an intense pressing game across various thirds of the field to regain possession swiftly and disrupt opponents’ build-up play . 
• Quick Transitions: Emphasising rapid shifts from defence to attack, aiming to capitalise on unsettled defences.
• Attacking Play: Fostering a proactive and dynamic style that seeks to control the game through aggressive offensive strategies.
During his initial training sessions at Red Bull Salzburg, Cinel focused on fast ball relays, counter-pressing, and goal-scoring exercises, underscoring his commitment to an energetic and forward-thinking approach . 
Expectations at QPR
Should Onur Cinel take the managerial role at Queens Park Rangers, fans can anticipate a transformation towards a more aggressive and entertaining style of play. His emphasis on youth development aligns with QPR’s tradition of nurturing young talent, potentially leading to increased opportunities for academy players. The implementation of his high-pressing and attacking philosophy may require an adaptation period, but it promises a revitalised and ambitious team ethos.
In summary, Cinel’s appointment would likely herald a new era for QPR, characterised by energetic performances, tactical innovation, and a renewed focus on developing young talent. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:54 - May 31 with 1052 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:29 - May 31 by JamesB1979 |
It’s amazing. Based on what many were saying on here, there was no chance of Marti staying. And most of same people are saying he was looking for other jobs and that’s fine. If he was still our manager, knowing all that, how on earth could we be in a better position today? We’d be going into a big pre-season with a manager who in all likelihood would be gone before the season kicks off. |
He was always leaving this summer which makes the attempt to win the PR battle by putting him on gardening leave even more stupid. Just pay him the modest settlement and move on with your lives…sure he may have hurt some ego’s but be the grown ups in the room.
Instead they’re offering to let him join another club compensation free to try and dig themselves out of a whole they created for themselves whilst he’s chilling in the background still being paid and going to be an awkward black cloud for as long as it takes to find a resolution. | | | |
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