| Sky Sports Breaking News 15:46 - Apr 27 with 69439 views | welwynranger |
Reporting that represensatives ofMarti have been talking to another championship club.
5 minutes ago.
No further info at the moment.
Bit worrying
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:02 - Apr 29 with 3250 views | TheChef |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:58 - Apr 29 by oldmeadoniansR |
I find this bots ghost poster issue interesting. Would Nourry really do this? Seems a bit extreme and ultimately what would be the point. I suppose offering another narrative and challenging the predominant viewpoint. But what does this achieve. Just tends to lead to further polarisation. Honest question. Does fans network have the biggest readership? I reckon so. It is the only one I have used for years but are these ghost posters also appearing on the other forums Before you ask I am mainly a lurker but have occasionally posted for a number of years. |
No idea how it all works but is odd how on my X feed it's suddenly full of random QPR handles all pro Nourry. |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:06 - Apr 29 with 3193 views | captainmycaptian |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:02 - Apr 29 by TheChef |
No idea how it all works but is odd how on my X feed it's suddenly full of random QPR handles all pro Nourry. |
Maybe that's how you get a ceo job or that's how you keep one ?? | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:12 - Apr 29 with 3110 views | TheChef |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:54 - Apr 29 by silverbirch |
No need to apologise.
You challenged NorrisGreen about their post and I questioned something in yours. I think it was then assumed that I shared NorrisGreen’s views. I don’t.
I just wanted to make the point that people may be in the know to an extent but then add on their interpretation of events from that viewpoint. Nourry is unpopular, is said to be unpleasant, has made mistakes…therefore Marti always tells the truth and is being hounded out of the club and forced into the arms of a club that might offer a realistic chance of promotion and double his salary. |
And NorrisGreen has posted on here before and clearly if he dislikes Cifuentes then fine that's his opinion!
For what it's worth I'd rather the manager stays, but ultimately I don't think his preferred way of playing is best suited to the Championship. Let's see where he goes next and see if he proves me wrong! And of course the bigger issue is if he does go, can our board find a replacement who will do better? | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:20 - Apr 29 with 3011 views | hoopedmonkey |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:02 - Apr 29 by TheChef |
No idea how it all works but is odd how on my X feed it's suddenly full of random QPR handles all pro Nourry. |
I may be being oversensitive but I feel I am being subjected to something deceitful and untenable. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:44 - Apr 29 with 2847 views | R_from_afar |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:54 - Apr 29 by silverbirch |
No need to apologise.
You challenged NorrisGreen about their post and I questioned something in yours. I think it was then assumed that I shared NorrisGreen’s views. I don’t.
I just wanted to make the point that people may be in the know to an extent but then add on their interpretation of events from that viewpoint. Nourry is unpopular, is said to be unpleasant, has made mistakes…therefore Marti always tells the truth and is being hounded out of the club and forced into the arms of a club that might offer a realistic chance of promotion and double his salary. |
Debate - respectful debate - is great but we'd all do well to bear in mind a phrase used by the author of a piece of analysis on here earlier this season:
"But a theory making sense doesn’t automatically make it true".
While I am here, I'll just add that the reason I follow QPR is that SilverBirch, his dad and a third, Rangers supporting mutual friend persuaded me to go to Reading v QPR eons ago. Thanks for that, mate 👍
PS: We lost. Because of course, but at least realistic expectations were set  |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:51 - Apr 29 with 2792 views | robith |
Would love to support a club and not have to understand layers and layer of impenetrable meta and lore
lol jks, i love it |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:04 - Apr 29 with 2648 views | TheChef |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:51 - Apr 29 by robith |
Would love to support a club and not have to understand layers and layer of impenetrable meta and lore
lol jks, i love it |
I mean, we can't be the only basket case football club? | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 with 2423 views | daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |  | | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:45 - Apr 29 with 2391 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:02 - Apr 29 by TheChef |
No idea how it all works but is odd how on my X feed it's suddenly full of random QPR handles all pro Nourry. |
Kim Jung's got a bot farm working overtime back in Pyongyang, knocking out the pro-Dear Leader message.
I've just received something telling me that the tractor factory just up from the DMZ has increased productivity by 614% due to Nourry's insightful guidance. |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:46 - Apr 29 with 2384 views | dm97 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
100%. On record many times on here criticising CN, but if you think he’s the fundamental issue here you haven’t been paying attention during the last decade.
Until the owners change nothing changes. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:55 - Apr 29 with 2300 views | Northernr |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:46 - Apr 29 by dm97 |
100%. On record many times on here criticising CN, but if you think he’s the fundamental issue here you haven’t been paying attention during the last decade.
Until the owners change nothing changes. |
Yeh, he's just the latest guy with 'good chat' who's talked his way in with these owners. Kia/Rigg/Hughes, Redknapp, Les, McClaren, Beale...
Fantastic post from Dave. Patterns repeating. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:58 - Apr 29 with 2263 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
You were doing so well there Dave but then stuck up for that snake Beale!  |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:00 - Apr 29 with 2223 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:55 - Apr 29 by Northernr |
Yeh, he's just the latest guy with 'good chat' who's talked his way in with these owners. Kia/Rigg/Hughes, Redknapp, Les, McClaren, Beale...
Fantastic post from Dave. Patterns repeating. |
Dave is spot on. I had always presumed it was the CEO / DofF that was falling out with the managers, rather than the owners. I know Amit always wanted Ainsworth, but aside from that is it actually the owners, just out of interest?
Regardless, they must be wonderful people to pitch to. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:07 - Apr 29 with 2120 views | KensalT |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
Since you mentioned Warnock:
https://www.efl.com/news/2025/april/27/neil-warnock-wins-contribution-to-league- | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:15 - Apr 29 with 2006 views | daveB |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:58 - Apr 29 by CroydonCaptJack |
You were doing so well there Dave but then stuck up for that snake Beale! |
I know I feel dirty now but really why was he so keen to go, it's possible he's just a prat but maybe he was right and he was lied to when he took the job | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:18 - Apr 29 with 1979 views | KensalT |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
Agree with you to a point.
But the ownership structure has changed over the time period you are referring to.
Ruben has been here the whole time but at first he was very much the junior partner to Tony Fernandes.
For reasons only Ruben would understand he bought out TF and has been steadily increasing his shareholding.
What has been constant is the owners operating major businesses on the other side of the world and putting their faith in others to look after the shop for them. And that really hasn't worked out too well.
As for Beale I have no sympathy. Even from very early on he was talking about his career progression after he left us. OK most players and managers who come here probably see us as a stepping stone to something bigger but they at least have the good grace to keep those thoughts to themselves. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:21 - Apr 29 with 1942 views | dm97 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:55 - Apr 29 by Northernr |
Yeh, he's just the latest guy with 'good chat' who's talked his way in with these owners. Kia/Rigg/Hughes, Redknapp, Les, McClaren, Beale...
Fantastic post from Dave. Patterns repeating. |
Yep. Nourry is a symptom not the cause. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:24 - Apr 29 with 1892 views | TheChef |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:58 - Apr 29 by CroydonCaptJack |
You were doing so well there Dave but then stuck up for that snake Beale! |
Beale used us a stepping stone for about three months. And look how well that has turned out for him so far.
Marti on the other hand has used us as a stepping stone for about eighteen months 
Unlike Beale I do at least wish him well! | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:25 - Apr 29 with 1878 views | KensalT |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:15 - Apr 29 by daveB |
I know I feel dirty now but really why was he so keen to go, it's possible he's just a prat but maybe he was right and he was lied to when he took the job |
If we have to lie to persuade someone with zero managerial experience to take the job then we really are a basket case! | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:36 - Apr 29 with 1763 views | daveB |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:18 - Apr 29 by KensalT |
Agree with you to a point.
But the ownership structure has changed over the time period you are referring to.
Ruben has been here the whole time but at first he was very much the junior partner to Tony Fernandes.
For reasons only Ruben would understand he bought out TF and has been steadily increasing his shareholding.
What has been constant is the owners operating major businesses on the other side of the world and putting their faith in others to look after the shop for them. And that really hasn't worked out too well.
As for Beale I have no sympathy. Even from very early on he was talking about his career progression after he left us. OK most players and managers who come here probably see us as a stepping stone to something bigger but they at least have the good grace to keep those thoughts to themselves. |
It has changed but the same problems keep coming up. I don't have an answer, I wish there was an obvious bad guy and you say get rid of him and it's all fixed. I'm just a bit fed up with it all
Whoie club has a losing mentality, you can see that in the cups and as soon as we think we are safe we just give up, has happened twice this season and maybe it will turn out that was down to the manager but just seems to happen far too often | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:37 - Apr 29 with 1745 views | Headington |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
Completely agree. It is astonishing how many mistakes they've made for one reason or the other, whether listening to the wrong people, badly advised, or taking a hunch or scratching an itch.
We lost Warburton and we also lost Eustace who I'd always thought was being prepared to succeed him eventually. I recall that Eustace turned down two championship managers' jobs (inc Swansea) to stay as assistant to Warburton. Since leaving us he has done a great job at clubs even more of a 'basket case' than us. Where Rooney has effectively relegated three championship teams, Eustace has improved three teams quickly. Also it seems he is a principled guy. He would have been a good fit for us though of course he probably wouldn't put up with Nourry. Who would? | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:40 - Apr 29 with 1694 views | JamesB1979 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:42 - Apr 29 by daveB |
My anger and frustration is with this all being a pattern that is repeated with these owners. Time and time again they have fallen out with managers and each time it leaves a mess
You go back to Warnock and listening to agents saying he was not being good enough to attract big players so they sacked him and well safe to say that didn't end well. Second time with Warnock we were too good for him and really we should have swallowed pride and given him another go
Ian Holloway did the job he was asked but he wasn't as smooth talking as McClaren so they made the change and it was wrong
Warbs a similar thing, an internal fall out and the club got rid of the wrong person and now happening again with Marti
When you see all that you kind of get why Beale spent most of his tenure trying to get out. Why is Marti open to leaving, something behind the scenes is just not right. The names change but the same thing keeps happening
the club is so full of bullshit and inflated egos it's never going to get anywhere |
I would say though that it’s different decisions makers today than behind Warnock sacking. I 100% disagreed with that. I also fully agree that we should have kept Warburton. However, some of the other decisions make more sense.
Holloway - his record wasn’t that great or maybe it wasn’t that great compared to the owners ambitions. But also I don’t remember us fans, on the whole, feeling that he was doing a great job. He did an average job. No harm in looking to do better at that time.
McLaren - he had done some good stuff with Derby and as Assistant with us previously. I wasn’t a fan of his appointment but I can see why they went for him.
Beale - he took us top of the league so clearly was a decent appointment for us. The issue was his ridiculous ambition that he deserved to manager a bigger club. I’m pretty certain he regrets leaving us now. But the owners and Les choice of Beale was a good one.
Critchley - we should have stuck with him. He was a decent continuity manager from Beale. It didn’t work out. And then maybe made the decision in the summer.
Ainsworth - he had a big support to be appointed amongst fans.
Also remember they hired Les and Hoos for almost 10 years to make those decisions. The issue was they couldn’t help getting involved at wrong time eg I can’t believe Les would have appointed Ainsworth.
They are a bit all over the place in terms of decisions and way to go but they do pay our ridiculous losses each month. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:44 - Apr 29 with 1636 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
OK, so I am a little perplexed by the issue some have with Nourry. Hear me out before you scream at me!
In the not to distant past managers were given what they wanted and lo and behold it cist us dear. Is all Nourry really guilty of is refusing to bend to MC. Surely that is his remit?
People getting very worked up about stories in the press etc, but this has always gone on, and not just at QPR.
Surely the most important thing is to move MC out, bagging as much compensation as we can and then getting a better manager.
If you're a manager QPR is still an attractive proposition. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:45 - Apr 29 with 1629 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:36 - Apr 29 by daveB |
It has changed but the same problems keep coming up. I don't have an answer, I wish there was an obvious bad guy and you say get rid of him and it's all fixed. I'm just a bit fed up with it all
Whoie club has a losing mentality, you can see that in the cups and as soon as we think we are safe we just give up, has happened twice this season and maybe it will turn out that was down to the manager but just seems to happen far too often |
"Losing mentality" is a great way of putting it. We've been damaged by Beale openly treating us with total disregard, Ainsworth trying to paint us as the minnows of the division and only Critchley had the balls to call it out and it probably cost him his job.
It's not just the players and management, I think the mentality of the fans has changed. Lots of fans actually supporting the manager throwing the FA Cup (against a team that hasn't scored another home goal to date), hardly a murmur of protest against abysmal home defeats....we're all getting beaten down, and as I think Mart Goblin was saying, that can't be a good thing. [Post edited 29 Apr 11:45]
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:49 - Apr 29 with 1572 views | KensalT |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:40 - Apr 29 by JamesB1979 |
I would say though that it’s different decisions makers today than behind Warnock sacking. I 100% disagreed with that. I also fully agree that we should have kept Warburton. However, some of the other decisions make more sense.
Holloway - his record wasn’t that great or maybe it wasn’t that great compared to the owners ambitions. But also I don’t remember us fans, on the whole, feeling that he was doing a great job. He did an average job. No harm in looking to do better at that time.
McLaren - he had done some good stuff with Derby and as Assistant with us previously. I wasn’t a fan of his appointment but I can see why they went for him.
Beale - he took us top of the league so clearly was a decent appointment for us. The issue was his ridiculous ambition that he deserved to manager a bigger club. I’m pretty certain he regrets leaving us now. But the owners and Les choice of Beale was a good one.
Critchley - we should have stuck with him. He was a decent continuity manager from Beale. It didn’t work out. And then maybe made the decision in the summer.
Ainsworth - he had a big support to be appointed amongst fans.
Also remember they hired Les and Hoos for almost 10 years to make those decisions. The issue was they couldn’t help getting involved at wrong time eg I can’t believe Les would have appointed Ainsworth.
They are a bit all over the place in terms of decisions and way to go but they do pay our ridiculous losses each month. |
"Critchley - we should have stuck with him. He was a decent continuity manager from Beale. It didn’t work out. And then maybe made the decision in the summer."
Disagree with you about Critchley. He had lost the dressing room and we would certainly have gone done if he stayed. He has since been sacked by both Blackpool and just last week by Hearts.
Holloway and Ainsworth both came here at a time when probably no one else would have taken the job. I think their loyalty does tend to get overlooked in appraising their time here. | | | |
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