| Sky Sports Breaking News 15:46 - Apr 27 with 59719 views | welwynranger |
Reporting that represensatives ofMarti have been talking to another championship club.
5 minutes ago.
No further info at the moment.
Bit worrying
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:45 - Apr 28 with 2474 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:39 - Apr 28 by lassel |
It’s a ‘fun’ little plaything to talk about to his mates. For every pound he puts in to keep it going he makes 10 with Westport so why not hold out for your price to sell your toy. Other rich people have yachts, planes etc that aren’t investments, why not a football club.
Westports market cap today is c. £2.5bn and it’s increased over £300m over the past 12 months (it was more like £500m before trump went even more nuts) so is £2m a month a problem when you’re making £25m a month? [Post edited 28 Apr 10:43]
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I'm glad you put fun in quote marks. Jesus, imagine being Ruben sitting there on Saturday - surely it's humiliating for him? What I don't understand is why people persistently say no one is interested in buying us - clearly they would if the price were lower. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:47 - Apr 28 with 2453 views | francisbowles |
If the compensation figure, that another club would have to pay to take Marti, is the rumoured £4 million, which Championship club is going to be prepared to pay that much?
I can only see the parachute payments clubs having that kind of money. I would imagine they will be looking for a Scott Parker, Neil Warnock type proven record. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:48 - Apr 28 with 2432 views | Northernr |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:45 - Apr 28 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I'm glad you put fun in quote marks. Jesus, imagine being Ruben sitting there on Saturday - surely it's humiliating for him? What I don't understand is why people persistently say no one is interested in buying us - clearly they would if the price were lower. |
Well it's not a particularly attractive proposition even if they gave you it for free.
At the last set of accounts it's costing them around £2m a month.
For that you get a team that's a million miles away from a promotion prospect and needs major surgery in every area, but FFP restrictions mean you can't really spend on the team. We had a half decent opportunity last summer and bought this lot.
So who wants to pay £2m a month to keep QPR kicking around 16th in the Championship, stuck in a tiny and decaying stadium? |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:50 - Apr 28 with 2401 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:48 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
Well it's not a particularly attractive proposition even if they gave you it for free.
At the last set of accounts it's costing them around £2m a month.
For that you get a team that's a million miles away from a promotion prospect and needs major surgery in every area, but FFP restrictions mean you can't really spend on the team. We had a half decent opportunity last summer and bought this lot.
So who wants to pay £2m a month to keep QPR kicking around 16th in the Championship, stuck in a tiny and decaying stadium? |
Form an orderly queue! |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 with 2371 views | wombat |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:43 - Apr 28 by PlanetHonneywood |
I'd put money on that scenario playing out. |
id prob add in a new player signing to the scenario just for the younguns to go mad over |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 with 2368 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:29 - Apr 28 by Wegerles_Stairs |
If Ruben is doing so well, why can't he lower the valuation? For the love of God, why do they persist in owning the club if they patently have no interest in running it properly? |
Not wanting to start a row, but how do you define "running it properly"?
The owners continue to fund a loss making enterprise with their own money, as far as I know they haven't asset stripped anything, don't we now own a training ground?
Year on year we have operated at the maximum loss that P&S rules allow.
I don't think they can literally do any more |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:56 - Apr 28 with 2292 views | BAWHoops |
Marti is going. Think we need to be at peace with that. If there was none of the backstabbing and bitching and WBA came in for him because he is, quite clearly, a good manager then we would probably all accept it. He left another club to come to us, that's the football food chain.
What *might* keep him here is that there's some big Championship fish out there whos whole schtick is they will get you promoted. Cooper, O'Neil and probably Farke are going to be available this summer. So if you are a larger Champ club (WBA, Norwich, Leicester, Saints, Boro) then you will probably want to go all in on those. And before anyone here suggests we look at those managers I ask you to get in the real world!
Rohl and Marti have been outstanding managers in terrible circumstances. They've both earned their shot at bigger and better run clubs. QPR just need to (somehow) not shit the bed and make sure they bring in the right manager |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:56 - Apr 28 with 2289 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:48 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
Well it's not a particularly attractive proposition even if they gave you it for free.
At the last set of accounts it's costing them around £2m a month.
For that you get a team that's a million miles away from a promotion prospect and needs major surgery in every area, but FFP restrictions mean you can't really spend on the team. We had a half decent opportunity last summer and bought this lot.
So who wants to pay £2m a month to keep QPR kicking around 16th in the Championship, stuck in a tiny and decaying stadium? |
Probably the type of person we don't want.
Maybe the type of owner who will try and strip any assets the club has, like Reading and many others have gone through already.
I'm not sure what fans want. At the min we have an owner who stays out the limelight, pays all the bills and invests the maximum he's allowed to every season.
Unless the P&S rules change no other owner can do anything different, unless the only things fans want is to change the CEO (which I think the boardroom need to do). | | | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:57 - Apr 28 with 2278 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by wombat |
id prob add in a new player signing to the scenario just for the younguns to go mad over |
Oh god, its going to be Ashby isn't it? | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:58 - Apr 28 with 2264 views | GroveR |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:45 - Apr 28 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I'm glad you put fun in quote marks. Jesus, imagine being Ruben sitting there on Saturday - surely it's humiliating for him? What I don't understand is why people persistently say no one is interested in buying us - clearly they would if the price were lower. |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:58 - Apr 28 with 2269 views | aston_hoop |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by wombat |
id prob add in a new player signing to the scenario just for the younguns to go mad over |
Either Saito on a permanent or Dunne's contract, one of those will be released at the same time. |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:59 - Apr 28 with 2250 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by nick_hammersmith |
Not wanting to start a row, but how do you define "running it properly"?
The owners continue to fund a loss making enterprise with their own money, as far as I know they haven't asset stripped anything, don't we now own a training ground?
Year on year we have operated at the maximum loss that P&S rules allow.
I don't think they can literally do any more |
They can do lots more. They could make the club nearer the top of their agenda. They could run it like they run their other businesses - I bet you if any PR consultant they hired to do an analysis at Westport recommended their own services as the solution they would laugh in their face.
They can sort out the Nourry mess. They can sort out the ongoing Loftus Road debacle - soon our capacity will be under 15k. They could come up with a plan and communicate it to the fans. They could make a decent footballing decision.
I think they are good honest people, I respect the fact they keep us alive, but come on chaps, give it some love and attention. [Post edited 28 Apr 11:00]
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:01 - Apr 28 with 2201 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by nick_hammersmith |
Not wanting to start a row, but how do you define "running it properly"?
The owners continue to fund a loss making enterprise with their own money, as far as I know they haven't asset stripped anything, don't we now own a training ground?
Year on year we have operated at the maximum loss that P&S rules allow.
I don't think they can literally do any more |
Running it properly means actually having a vision and ideally not delegating everything to 27-year-old bullshitters. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:02 - Apr 28 with 2199 views | dmm |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:48 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
Well it's not a particularly attractive proposition even if they gave you it for free.
At the last set of accounts it's costing them around £2m a month.
For that you get a team that's a million miles away from a promotion prospect and needs major surgery in every area, but FFP restrictions mean you can't really spend on the team. We had a half decent opportunity last summer and bought this lot.
So who wants to pay £2m a month to keep QPR kicking around 16th in the Championship, stuck in a tiny and decaying stadium? |
I'm assuming our stadium is safe from developers' hands because that would be a reason for some vulture capitalist to consider acquiring QPR. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:07 - Apr 28 with 2112 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:59 - Apr 28 by GaryBannister86 |
They can do lots more. They could make the club nearer the top of their agenda. They could run it like they run their other businesses - I bet you if any PR consultant they hired to do an analysis at Westport recommended their own services as the solution they would laugh in their face.
They can sort out the Nourry mess. They can sort out the ongoing Loftus Road debacle - soon our capacity will be under 15k. They could come up with a plan and communicate it to the fans. They could make a decent footballing decision.
I think they are good honest people, I respect the fact they keep us alive, but come on chaps, give it some love and attention. [Post edited 28 Apr 11:00]
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I agree, I think a lot of that should come from the Chairman though.
The owners might normally only set the overall strategy for the business.
It sounds like most fans real problem is with CN, who was flavour of the month about a year ago | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:08 - Apr 28 with 2103 views | Northernr |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:02 - Apr 28 by dmm |
I'm assuming our stadium is safe from developers' hands because that would be a reason for some vulture capitalist to consider acquiring QPR. |
Well I believe it's got planning covenants on it that it has to be a sports ground or words to that effect. Otherwise, like you say, we become attractive to sharks. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:09 - Apr 28 with 2093 views | nadera78 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by nick_hammersmith |
Not wanting to start a row, but how do you define "running it properly"?
The owners continue to fund a loss making enterprise with their own money, as far as I know they haven't asset stripped anything, don't we now own a training ground?
Year on year we have operated at the maximum loss that P&S rules allow.
I don't think they can literally do any more |
Every single problem we face is directly attributable to the decisions these owners have made in the 15 years they've been here. Every single one. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:12 - Apr 28 with 2044 views | wombat |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:57 - Apr 28 by nick_hammersmith |
Oh god, its going to be Ashby isn't it? |
he does have lovely tattoos though. that would actually finish me i think ,
i heard madson has a younger shorter brother i reckon it will be him. | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:12 - Apr 28 with 2036 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:08 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
Well I believe it's got planning covenants on it that it has to be a sports ground or words to that effect. Otherwise, like you say, we become attractive to sharks. |
If one of the covenants says that we have to play football there then we are bang in trouble | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:17 - Apr 28 with 1948 views | FDC |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:22 - Apr 28 by lassel |
Impossible to know, other than to say that Ruben is as much guided by fan sentiment as anyone involved over the past 15 years and saved Cifuentes because he had widespread fab support still.
Ultimately though the club has been openly for sale for 5+ years now. Carl Lindner kicked the tyres when his good friend Reilly bought in but ran a mile at the valuation, John Textor did the same more recently but also baulked at the valuation and Ruben simply doesn’t have time for the club. Every minute he spends on QPR is a minute taken from Westports which is growing at crazy rates and I’m sure he’s ‘happy’ to have Hoos and his protege Nourry to tick it over for him. |
"widespread fab support"
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:24 - Apr 28 with 1829 views | derbyhoop |
This needs to be sorted ASAP. One way or another. Ideal would be a joint statement from Nourry and Marti.
I won't hold my breath |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:34 - Apr 28 with 1682 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:09 - Apr 28 by nadera78 |
Every single problem we face is directly attributable to the decisions these owners have made in the 15 years they've been here. Every single one. |
C'mon we had different owners 15 years ago didn't we?
Our main problem is that we are constrained with the P&S rules, which the owner cannot do anything about | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:35 - Apr 28 with 1669 views | GaryHaddock |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:17 - Apr 28 by FDC |
"widespread fab support"
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Gavin Peacock is crying now, cheers. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:39 - Apr 28 with 1589 views | lassel |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:51 - Apr 28 by nick_hammersmith |
Not wanting to start a row, but how do you define "running it properly"?
The owners continue to fund a loss making enterprise with their own money, as far as I know they haven't asset stripped anything, don't we now own a training ground?
Year on year we have operated at the maximum loss that P&S rules allow.
I don't think they can literally do any more |
Norf has said it elsewhere but the one thing they’ve been extremely naive about is bringing in sponsorship to the club, not only from their companies on the toilet stalls, hand dryers, stairs etc etc but also from business contacts and friends in Malaysia.
That said, nobody gives two shits about QPR in Malaysia so it’s possible they tried and their friends and associates told them to do one. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 11:42 - Apr 28 with 1541 views | stowmarketrange |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 10:48 - Apr 28 by Northernr |
Well it's not a particularly attractive proposition even if they gave you it for free.
At the last set of accounts it's costing them around £2m a month.
For that you get a team that's a million miles away from a promotion prospect and needs major surgery in every area, but FFP restrictions mean you can't really spend on the team. We had a half decent opportunity last summer and bought this lot.
So who wants to pay £2m a month to keep QPR kicking around 16th in the Championship, stuck in a tiny and decaying stadium? |
I’m Spartacus. |  | | |
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