| Sky Sports Breaking News 15:46 - Apr 27 with 59676 views | welwynranger |
Reporting that represensatives ofMarti have been talking to another championship club.
5 minutes ago.
No further info at the moment.
Bit worrying
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:04 - Apr 27 with 3238 views | daveB |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 22:33 - Apr 27 by silverbirch |
And now his agent leaks that he’s had an interview, to alert other clubs he’s looking for options |
The story isn't that he has had an interview it's that West Brom have spoken to his representstives. No mention of an interview or that he is going to get the job |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:04 - Apr 27 with 3236 views | Gus_iom |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 22:20 - Apr 27 by davman |
Ben Williams?
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Gregory Vignal.....
Shudders. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:07 - Apr 27 with 3193 views | stowmarketrange |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 18:39 - Apr 27 by davman |
My choice. Dad played Rugby for Saracens, flirted with Millwall, but hated the trouble there, so they weren't for me. Brother is 4 years older and Palace and there was no way I was ever following him. When I got to 5 I had to choose.
Originally I said Liverpool, but my brother scoffed and said you always go for the best, so I went for the team in second. They were a London club, so I chose and stuck with them. After seeing them not score for my first 4 games, I still stayed in and that set the tone for the lat twenty years.
At least between 11 and 22 years old we were more than decent, but since then it has been awful. Still, like you I have indoctrinated my lad in this shite. HE had no choice, but seeing how happy he was when that third went in against Oxford, there are times when he enjoys it. Mostly, he knows we are 'kin awful though... [Post edited 27 Apr 18:40]
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I spoke to the young lad in the back rows of ML at full time yesterday,and told him that he’s got another 40-50 years of watching games like yesterday.
I started watching QPR in 1970 and had 26 seasons of us doing quite well and a few decent seasons after that time.God knows what our younger fans are going to have to put up with in the future years.
Yesterday was so depressing to see how far we’ve fallen behind the top teams in the championship,let alone the premier league. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:23 - Apr 28 with 2443 views | QPROslo |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:04 - Apr 27 by daveB |
The story isn't that he has had an interview it's that West Brom have spoken to his representstives. No mention of an interview or that he is going to get the job |
For me that a Club like West Brom who have just missed out on the Play-Offs this season but will most certainly be targeting at least that next season, are interested enough in Marti that they are talking to his representatives, underlines for the CEO, Hoos and the Owners that we have a Manager who is rated by Clubs higher up the chain than we are. If they have a clue about what they are doing and have doubts about the calibre of MC, it really indicates they should be thinking again. The outstanding vocal support for Marti at games, the sell out home games, the large numbers at away games all do the same. It gives me some hope that either the Board will step in to strongly encourage Nourry to work better with Marti and addresse the issues he has raised, or if he doesn't move Nourry out / encourage him to find himself another job. If this story was leaked it is surely in Marti's interest. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:27 - Apr 28 with 2405 views | ozexile |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:07 - Apr 27 by stowmarketrange |
I spoke to the young lad in the back rows of ML at full time yesterday,and told him that he’s got another 40-50 years of watching games like yesterday.
I started watching QPR in 1970 and had 26 seasons of us doing quite well and a few decent seasons after that time.God knows what our younger fans are going to have to put up with in the future years.
Yesterday was so depressing to see how far we’ve fallen behind the top teams in the championship,let alone the premier league. |
I think younger fans know the situation with a small west London club. Where we will lose them is our complete lack of professionalism. We really are second rate at everything. If I was a younger that's what would turn me off. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:38 - Apr 28 with 2324 views | kingsburyR |
Did Bircham or Ainsworth have any time at all as player managers during our many upheavals? |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:55 - Apr 28 with 2206 views | silverbirch |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 23:04 - Apr 27 by daveB |
The story isn't that he has had an interview it's that West Brom have spoken to his representstives. No mention of an interview or that he is going to get the job |
Yes. Sorry. That wasn’t helpful, from me. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:02 - Apr 28 with 2164 views | SimplyNico |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:23 - Apr 28 by QPROslo |
For me that a Club like West Brom who have just missed out on the Play-Offs this season but will most certainly be targeting at least that next season, are interested enough in Marti that they are talking to his representatives, underlines for the CEO, Hoos and the Owners that we have a Manager who is rated by Clubs higher up the chain than we are. If they have a clue about what they are doing and have doubts about the calibre of MC, it really indicates they should be thinking again. The outstanding vocal support for Marti at games, the sell out home games, the large numbers at away games all do the same. It gives me some hope that either the Board will step in to strongly encourage Nourry to work better with Marti and addresse the issues he has raised, or if he doesn't move Nourry out / encourage him to find himself another job. If this story was leaked it is surely in Marti's interest. |
"It gives me some hope that either the Board will step in to strongly encourage Nourry to work better with Marti and addresse the issues he has raised, or if he doesn't move Nourry out / encourage him to find himself another job."
It doesn’t work like that though. The Board have nailed their colours on Nourry, backing him to the hilt in terms of giving him both CEO and DOF roles. And there is no way practically that you can just work better with someone. It's trust and confidence. And in any other walk of life, if you work with soneone you think is a c nut and who is also your boss, you end up leaving.
It's the collateral damage that will come out of this that will be a big problem. Chair may well go. Marti clearly rates him. I think we have seen what happens to us creatively when he doesn’t play - check out the start of the season. | | | |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:17 - Apr 28 with 2052 views | kingsburyR |
This is all very QPR.
Its natural progression that all managers (and players) that come to QPR are looking to progress up the food chain culminating with a job at a "big" club.
But take a step back and look at Martin from another clubs point of view. They can't see the entire shitshow he took over, the stability he brought to the fanbase or the restrictions he has had to work under.
But they do see that on both seasons we been inconsistent, flirted heavily with relegation three times and taking a few right royal humpings along the way. Why would third parties be that attracted to him currently?
If Marti goes I won't bear any grudge against him. I've enjoyed his time at the club, but he'll move on at some point or get sacked. We will get a new manager and our journey will continue. I will buy my season ticket again because that is what I/we do.
So lets get the last game of the season out of the way and see what the summer brings.
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:22 - Apr 28 with 2000 views | Blue_Castello |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 19:52 - Apr 27 by StreathamRanger |
First season, no doubt that was a rescue mission and it was an incredible one. This season he had a full pre season with the players and had us bottom, playing some of the worst football in November. The turn around after that was remarkable and I'm delighted we stuck with him but he saved us from a mess he'd played a part in creating. |
The start of the season was very poor I spoke with a friend of mine yesterday who supports Fulham, he reminded me that we were destined for relegation until the middle of November, the away win at Cardiff seemed to be the turn around in results. I personally think the Summer recruitment had a lot to do with the poor start to the season, nearly all the players were from European leagues and had not played any Championship football before.
It was apparent very quickly that the new players were finding it hard to adjust and it was going to take time, in the case of Madsen I don't think it will ever happen and I can't believe I'm saying this but we would have been better off keeping Dozzell. That start to the season was because we had a purely analytical approach to recruitment, agreed it's something we've been asking for but it doesn't have to be all or nothing and we needed some Championship experience among the recruits.
The players have developed as the season has progressed, some have shown they are good enough to at least be competitive, sadly the ones we spent the majority of our transfer budget on are either struggling big time or injured and the jury is still out.
This whole saga with Marti is grinding us all down, something needs to be resolved quickly for the good of the club, I want Marti to stay but if he's going then it can't drag on over the Summer, like most I'm not happy with Nourry, I think he's far too inexperienced to have the combined CEO/DOF role and his communication skills are poor to say the least.
Edit - It's unfair to say his communication skills are poor we've all read the Nourry speak which I personally find tedious, it's the blocking of communications to the media and it appears he only relents when under pressure, I'm still baffled why Clive never got his interview with Marti, that's a man running scared. [Post edited 28 Apr 9:42]
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:27 - Apr 28 with 1934 views | SimplyNico |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:22 - Apr 28 by Blue_Castello |
The start of the season was very poor I spoke with a friend of mine yesterday who supports Fulham, he reminded me that we were destined for relegation until the middle of November, the away win at Cardiff seemed to be the turn around in results. I personally think the Summer recruitment had a lot to do with the poor start to the season, nearly all the players were from European leagues and had not played any Championship football before.
It was apparent very quickly that the new players were finding it hard to adjust and it was going to take time, in the case of Madsen I don't think it will ever happen and I can't believe I'm saying this but we would have been better off keeping Dozzell. That start to the season was because we had a purely analytical approach to recruitment, agreed it's something we've been asking for but it doesn't have to be all or nothing and we needed some Championship experience among the recruits.
The players have developed as the season has progressed, some have shown they are good enough to at least be competitive, sadly the ones we spent the majority of our transfer budget on are either struggling big time or injured and the jury is still out.
This whole saga with Marti is grinding us all down, something needs to be resolved quickly for the good of the club, I want Marti to stay but if he's going then it can't drag on over the Summer, like most I'm not happy with Nourry, I think he's far too inexperienced to have the combined CEO/DOF role and his communication skills are poor to say the least.
Edit - It's unfair to say his communication skills are poor we've all read the Nourry speak which I personally find tedious, it's the blocking of communications to the media and it appears he only relents when under pressure, I'm still baffled why Clive never got his interview with Marti, that's a man running scared. [Post edited 28 Apr 9:42]
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I think Nourry would take issue with the fact that he is not good at communicating. His article for Imperial Business School - https://www.imperial.ac.uk/business-school/faculty-research/research-centres/gan was all about his ability to communicate honestly with Gen Z individuals. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:31 - Apr 28 with 1875 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:17 - Apr 28 by kingsburyR |
This is all very QPR.
Its natural progression that all managers (and players) that come to QPR are looking to progress up the food chain culminating with a job at a "big" club.
But take a step back and look at Martin from another clubs point of view. They can't see the entire shitshow he took over, the stability he brought to the fanbase or the restrictions he has had to work under.
But they do see that on both seasons we been inconsistent, flirted heavily with relegation three times and taking a few right royal humpings along the way. Why would third parties be that attracted to him currently?
If Marti goes I won't bear any grudge against him. I've enjoyed his time at the club, but he'll move on at some point or get sacked. We will get a new manager and our journey will continue. I will buy my season ticket again because that is what I/we do.
So lets get the last game of the season out of the way and see what the summer brings.
You R'ssss |
Exactly how I see this, even though left early 2nd half on Saturday, later that evening renewed my season ticket. I have to keep the faith and hope that there is someone out there that can change the direction of our club upwards. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:44 - Apr 28 with 1786 views | Paddyhoops |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:22 - Apr 28 by Blue_Castello |
The start of the season was very poor I spoke with a friend of mine yesterday who supports Fulham, he reminded me that we were destined for relegation until the middle of November, the away win at Cardiff seemed to be the turn around in results. I personally think the Summer recruitment had a lot to do with the poor start to the season, nearly all the players were from European leagues and had not played any Championship football before.
It was apparent very quickly that the new players were finding it hard to adjust and it was going to take time, in the case of Madsen I don't think it will ever happen and I can't believe I'm saying this but we would have been better off keeping Dozzell. That start to the season was because we had a purely analytical approach to recruitment, agreed it's something we've been asking for but it doesn't have to be all or nothing and we needed some Championship experience among the recruits.
The players have developed as the season has progressed, some have shown they are good enough to at least be competitive, sadly the ones we spent the majority of our transfer budget on are either struggling big time or injured and the jury is still out.
This whole saga with Marti is grinding us all down, something needs to be resolved quickly for the good of the club, I want Marti to stay but if he's going then it can't drag on over the Summer, like most I'm not happy with Nourry, I think he's far too inexperienced to have the combined CEO/DOF role and his communication skills are poor to say the least.
Edit - It's unfair to say his communication skills are poor we've all read the Nourry speak which I personally find tedious, it's the blocking of communications to the media and it appears he only relents when under pressure, I'm still baffled why Clive never got his interview with Marti, that's a man running scared. [Post edited 28 Apr 9:42]
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The voice of reason . Managers come and go . We’re always here regardless of what’s served up .
We’re stuck with Nourry unfortunately but let’s be honest if he doesn’t get the next one right we’ll be down anyway and he won’t have a job.
Keep the decent players. we’ve got a few . Get rid of the shirkers .
They’re are some competent managers out there who would love to be managing in front of full houses every week .
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:44 - Apr 28 with 1780 views | hertshoops |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 22:59 - Apr 27 by BostonR |
About a year ago almost 4,000 of us travelled to Coventry to pay homage to Marti for the job he had done. We also won 2-0 on that day. I came away thinking we might just have a special talent on our hands and can we take care of him.
He’s had some incredible challenges this season and perhaps he should have shown some restraint in publicly expressing his concerns about the behind the scenes issues.
Having said that how on earth have the club allowed this to escalate to the point where the best coach we’ve had for some time is going to walk out the door?
Our main problem is actually finding out what the feck has happened but given how Nourry doesn’t communicate that is going to be difficult.
I hope Clive and his like-minded Rs journalists can get stuck in because if this implodes next season is going to be vile and toxic.
I’m genuinely fed up with arse-holes fecking this club up. |
Well put sir, my thoughts exactly
I'm sick of the egos at the top of my club continually shooting us in the foot |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:47 - Apr 28 with 1742 views | Blue_Castello |
I know it makes me laugh, he's very well educated and likes to show it off with every press release, he disappears up his own backside trying to be smart and clever, there's no need for the Nourry speak but sadly it's impressed Lee Hoos big time.
I agree it does appear he's the boards man but I'm thinking he's more Lee Hoos man than he is Amit and Rubens, it's all about what the owners think at the end of the day. Nourry is just a club employee to be given such a level of power at his age is dangerous, I'm not being ageist, he has obviously done some good work in certain areas but there are lots of soft skills you need to develop in a work environment and managing people is tough, something that invariably takes years to develop. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:50 - Apr 28 with 1685 views | FrankRightguard |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 22:59 - Apr 27 by BostonR |
About a year ago almost 4,000 of us travelled to Coventry to pay homage to Marti for the job he had done. We also won 2-0 on that day. I came away thinking we might just have a special talent on our hands and can we take care of him.
He’s had some incredible challenges this season and perhaps he should have shown some restraint in publicly expressing his concerns about the behind the scenes issues.
Having said that how on earth have the club allowed this to escalate to the point where the best coach we’ve had for some time is going to walk out the door?
Our main problem is actually finding out what the feck has happened but given how Nourry doesn’t communicate that is going to be difficult.
I hope Clive and his like-minded Rs journalists can get stuck in because if this implodes next season is going to be vile and toxic.
I’m genuinely fed up with arse-holes fecking this club up. |
Until there is either a change in the ownership or a change in the rules to allow the ownership to invest as they see fit in their own club then I am afraid this is our lot. If a manager does well we cannot give him the resources to take it to the next level and someone else inevitably can.
As always, it all boils down to the utter mismanagement of this ownership at the beginning of their tenure. A millstone that will hang round the neck of the club for god knows how long. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:51 - Apr 28 with 1663 views | Phildo |
I honestly learned years ago to try and not think too hard about it but just to savour the good moments at QPR. They have been by and large an embarrassment for years. Fulham and Brentford have left us long behind- a time when being a London club is a big advantage. Sigh. This season has been objectively sh7t. And still I renew. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:59 - Apr 28 with 1567 views | daveB |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 07:23 - Apr 28 by QPROslo |
For me that a Club like West Brom who have just missed out on the Play-Offs this season but will most certainly be targeting at least that next season, are interested enough in Marti that they are talking to his representatives, underlines for the CEO, Hoos and the Owners that we have a Manager who is rated by Clubs higher up the chain than we are. If they have a clue about what they are doing and have doubts about the calibre of MC, it really indicates they should be thinking again. The outstanding vocal support for Marti at games, the sell out home games, the large numbers at away games all do the same. It gives me some hope that either the Board will step in to strongly encourage Nourry to work better with Marti and addresse the issues he has raised, or if he doesn't move Nourry out / encourage him to find himself another job. If this story was leaked it is surely in Marti's interest. |
I'm not sure, I think the story was leaked to turn fans against him and you only have to look at social media to see it's worked | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:04 - Apr 28 with 1499 views | lassel |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:47 - Apr 28 by Blue_Castello |
I know it makes me laugh, he's very well educated and likes to show it off with every press release, he disappears up his own backside trying to be smart and clever, there's no need for the Nourry speak but sadly it's impressed Lee Hoos big time.
I agree it does appear he's the boards man but I'm thinking he's more Lee Hoos man than he is Amit and Rubens, it's all about what the owners think at the end of the day. Nourry is just a club employee to be given such a level of power at his age is dangerous, I'm not being ageist, he has obviously done some good work in certain areas but there are lots of soft skills you need to develop in a work environment and managing people is tough, something that invariably takes years to develop. |
At the risk of being a stuck record, Hoos is ‘the boards man’ because he is willing to do it and Ruben has no time to spend on QPR. Bhatia is long gone and even when he was around, QPR was just a fun plaything to bring his mates to, he was never anywhere close to the level of hands-on he was happy for it to be portrayed as.
That said, Ruben will still step in if needed - twice this season alone he has given Nourry a slap and put him back in his box when he tried to sack Cifuentes, but now the relationship is so completely devolved that a change has to be made and it’s obviously the right time to do it.
As you say, ultimately Nourry is *just* and employee, but he’s got Hoos’ full support as Hoos sees him as some sort of protege and ultimately Hoos himself doesn’t want to do the job anymore. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:05 - Apr 28 with 1492 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:51 - Apr 28 by Phildo |
I honestly learned years ago to try and not think too hard about it but just to savour the good moments at QPR. They have been by and large an embarrassment for years. Fulham and Brentford have left us long behind- a time when being a London club is a big advantage. Sigh. This season has been objectively sh7t. And still I renew. |
Spot on rationalisation there muchacho.
The parameters of my emotional investment were hammered foursquare into the ground after we lost the 1986 charity shield at Wembley. I treat the pillars of QPRism: calamity; embarrassment; defeat; and woefulness as strange imposters to be ignored or simply laughed at, and never taken seriously. |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:10 - Apr 28 with 1417 views | lassel |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 08:59 - Apr 28 by daveB |
I'm not sure, I think the story was leaked to turn fans against him and you only have to look at social media to see it's worked |
I mean the story in itself is true Dave, his agent has been talking to clubs seriously since the international break end of March, but the part about it not being permitted is underhand nonsense - the end of season seperation was agreed many months ago.
That said i also doubt it’ll be West Brom, they’re just an easy mark for the clubs leak as they’re openly looking and so you can get a friendly local journo to top it up. | | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:26 - Apr 28 with 1255 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 16:28 - Apr 27 by Hunterhoop |
Would be astonished if this wasn’t leaked by Nourry/Hoos to manipulate the fanbase, regardless of whether true or not.
His agents touted him about last summer - no takers - which they knew about and they didn’t leak it.
But remember they want him gone, they just don’t want to pay him off and want to get some comp instead.
Hugely worried about who Nourry will hire instead. |
I feel this is where I am on this "leak" MC has almost universal approval with the fans and this smacks of the early shots in a smear campaign. We have been told regularly that there is a rift between MC and CN and CN is losing the popularity contest, by a distance, so this is an option for him.
CN can't smear with a palpable lie, so I have no doubt that MC has told his agent to start looking around in case it is he, MC, that gets the Spanish archer. It doesn't mean that he doesn't want to stay but he also doesn't want to be out of work with no options either.
We've seen, by the reaction to the Burnley game, how volatile the fanbase is so CN could quite easily sow the seeds against MC and, with a few well placed agent provocateurs in the various SM outlets, push the agenda that MC is a snake and fans want to see the back of him now.
The ugly face of politics in all its glory. |  |
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| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:27 - Apr 28 with 1247 views | GroveR |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 21:03 - Apr 27 by Northernr |
Thank you. Pleased somebody has spotted that.
It's the same on this message board.
A highly unusual, highly irregular number of new accounts registered, or dormant accounts suddenly posting, all with remarkably similar, carefully and very well worded, concise views.
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The analog equivalent would be Paladini going around pubs in the Bush telling everyone how disloyal Ian Holloway was when linked with the Leicester job. |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:28 - Apr 28 with 1215 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:10 - Apr 28 by lassel |
I mean the story in itself is true Dave, his agent has been talking to clubs seriously since the international break end of March, but the part about it not being permitted is underhand nonsense - the end of season seperation was agreed many months ago.
That said i also doubt it’ll be West Brom, they’re just an easy mark for the clubs leak as they’re openly looking and so you can get a friendly local journo to top it up. |
Lassel from your perspective do you have any feel for Ruben's level of comfort with Nourry? Sounds like they've had words at points re Marti's job so is there tension there or are they fully onboard and setting sail upon HMS Nourry? |  | | |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:31 - Apr 28 with 1155 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Sky Sports Breaking News on 09:26 - Apr 28 by Esox_Lucius |
I feel this is where I am on this "leak" MC has almost universal approval with the fans and this smacks of the early shots in a smear campaign. We have been told regularly that there is a rift between MC and CN and CN is losing the popularity contest, by a distance, so this is an option for him.
CN can't smear with a palpable lie, so I have no doubt that MC has told his agent to start looking around in case it is he, MC, that gets the Spanish archer. It doesn't mean that he doesn't want to stay but he also doesn't want to be out of work with no options either.
We've seen, by the reaction to the Burnley game, how volatile the fanbase is so CN could quite easily sow the seeds against MC and, with a few well placed agent provocateurs in the various SM outlets, push the agenda that MC is a snake and fans want to see the back of him now.
The ugly face of politics in all its glory. |
Based on the evidence I'd say that's a perfect summary Esox. Exactly where I've landed. | | | |
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