| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread 19:06 - Apr 29 with 274098 views | Tonto |
As they have already started, we need a thread. Suspect most of these will be wrong/clickbait sites, but lets store them in one place.
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 12:29 - Jul 25 with 2672 views | derbyhoop |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 23:26 - Jul 24 by numptydumpty |
If he has a good season and we finish 10th, contract extension to Charlie in the push for the play offs or better.
Think that makes the club more attractive to him.
That would be far from a disaster, it would justify keeping him.
We won't finish tenth though... [Post edited 24 Jul 23:26]
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 12:32 - Jul 25 with 2609 views | Stainrod |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 12:24 - Jul 25 by BAWHoops |
If Kelman won't sign a new deal (understandable) and a decent offer is on the table then we should cash in.
I'd rather keep him, but if he starts scoring without that contract then he will walk for free in the summer.
We need to sell players, always. If it's for anything above £2m then we take the money and invest |
Clearly you and several other posters who have made similar points are 100% right.
What I find scary is that this needs to be explained so many times; some issues you can argue the toss on but what you say here is so OBVIOUSLY the case I find it really odd that some intelligent, well informed fans who have followed the twists and turns of players leaving for nowt in recent seasons, plus endless reports on our financial predicament and everyone paying lip service to the idea that we are development club, still say "keep him anyway". |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:14 - Jul 25 with 2313 views | aston_hoop |
Charlton seem to think they are signing Kelman too |  |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 with 2295 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 12:32 - Jul 25 by Stainrod |
Clearly you and several other posters who have made similar points are 100% right.
What I find scary is that this needs to be explained so many times; some issues you can argue the toss on but what you say here is so OBVIOUSLY the case I find it really odd that some intelligent, well informed fans who have followed the twists and turns of players leaving for nowt in recent seasons, plus endless reports on our financial predicament and everyone paying lip service to the idea that we are development club, still say "keep him anyway". |
I think it's born from a fear of doing another Championship winter with Michi Frey and Zan Celar as our strikers. |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 with 2290 views | Lblock |
Imagine if all these Kelman posts had been added onto the Charlie Kelman thread -- surely it'd be up there to rival the Frankie thread? |  |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:24 - Jul 25 with 2196 views | TheChef |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
I think it's born from a fear of doing another Championship winter with Michi Frey and Zan Celar as our strikers. |
Still giving Celar the benefit of the doubt. And I think he was very unfortunate with the injury he got.
Of course we'll still have to see how well he's recovered, and if it makes him more injury prone...
Hopefully all of Frey's fitness work will pay off too. |  |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:01 - Jul 25 with 1949 views | Stainrod |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
I think it's born from a fear of doing another Championship winter with Michi Frey and Zan Celar as our strikers. |
But that’s not an argument against selling Kelman; that’s an argument to use the money to buy a replacement. And it seems we are, probably this Ba fella. Admit this potential signing does not, as Kelvin Mackenzie might have said “stand my c@ck on end” (apologies to younger listeners) but it’s a decision that’s quite hard to second guess on a message board. As you have eloquently written, the much-craved 20-goal-a-season striker is so rare as to almost be mythical. I hated the Madsen and Celar signings because they just don’t look Championship players to me; the jury is still out for me on Nourry but on the basis that he seems a lot more driven and clever than Hoos I am prepared to hope for now that he has learnt from that experience. | | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:09 - Jul 25 with 1846 views | johnhoop |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
I think it's born from a fear of doing another Championship winter with Michi Frey and Zan Celar as our strikers. |
Absolutely. I can see the financial sense in accepting the money for Kerman but only if we have someone lined up to replace him adequately. [Post edited 25 Jul 14:11]
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:13 - Jul 25 with 1806 views | cpgerber |
As much as I believe there is excellent value in signing good African players, my main objection is the 6 odd weeks these guys are out in Jan/Feb on AFCON duty, usually a time the squad is running on fumes injury wise. So Ba coming with a few ifs and buts for me, apart from his stats not blowing me away either. odd one that.
would really have like to see Kelman given a go, but I assume the contract situation is making a sale unavoidable.
As a born and raised South African, very happy to see we signed a lad from there. And from Stellenbosch also, where I studied and worked for a while. |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:20 - Jul 25 with 1711 views | dmm |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:24 - Jul 25 by TheChef |
Still giving Celar the benefit of the doubt. And I think he was very unfortunate with the injury he got.
Of course we'll still have to see how well he's recovered, and if it makes him more injury prone...
Hopefully all of Frey's fitness work will pay off too. |
Celar was nowhere to be seen v Cardiff, as were all our strikers. It'll be interesting, and possibly telling, to see who is picked up front on Saturday. |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:21 - Jul 25 with 1699 views | Monkey_Roots |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:24 - Jul 25 by TheChef |
Still giving Celar the benefit of the doubt. And I think he was very unfortunate with the injury he got.
Of course we'll still have to see how well he's recovered, and if it makes him more injury prone...
Hopefully all of Frey's fitness work will pay off too. |
This is exactly where I am too - He just started to show what he could do - 2 nice finishes if I remember rightly, and then bad injury. I hope he proves most of us fans wrong and smashes it. |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:28 - Jul 25 with 1643 views | Myke |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 13:16 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
I think it's born from a fear of doing another Championship winter with Michi Frey and Zan Celar as our strikers. |
This I think, 100%. I guess I am being a hypocrite by suggesting we keep Kelman when I am always advocating that as a selling club we must sell - even as recently as Varane a month ago.
But the problem is we have no bloody strikers or at
least none that are remotely prolific and to let one go, without giving him a go seems counter productive. We are essentially 3 players away from being ok this season ; a LB, a ball- carrying midfielder and a striker. Of the 3, one would imagine the striker is the most challenging and expensive to recruit. We may already have the solution on our books and he is being sold by all accounts. Seems mad. | | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:29 - Jul 25 with 1622 views | numptydumpty |
Am being really stupid here.,But say for example we kept Charlie on current terms and either he plays badly or very well for us.
In January, we offer him longer contract on higher wages, and if he accepts, all well and good. If he doesn't accept contract then or doesn't perform at a high enough standard for few months, we sell in January.
Are either of these scenarios possible....
Ie could we not write.a possible.contract ahead that gets offered to him in January on the proviso , for example scores.nine.goals by end of December...
Just trying to understand the logic.....
Ie there are no guarantees at all that who we spend extra dosh on, won't flop themselves.. It seems from all explanations, selling in January, is not considered. [Post edited 25 Jul 14:30]
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:38 - Jul 25 with 1537 views | FDC |
Fwiw a Charlton mate writes:
"One of the “in the know” lads reckons the personal terms were agreed ages ago, we’ve just been haggling with you over price
He must think you lot are a basket case if he prefers taking a chance with us
Although in fairness I back Jones to keep us up
Unlikely to be pretty though" |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:39 - Jul 25 with 1533 views | aston_hoop |
Marc Leonard - Birmingham midfielder another link. Not for the first time, were linked with him a couple of times before. | |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:00 - Jul 25 with 1391 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 14:29 - Jul 25 by numptydumpty |
Am being really stupid here.,But say for example we kept Charlie on current terms and either he plays badly or very well for us.
In January, we offer him longer contract on higher wages, and if he accepts, all well and good. If he doesn't accept contract then or doesn't perform at a high enough standard for few months, we sell in January.
Are either of these scenarios possible....
Ie could we not write.a possible.contract ahead that gets offered to him in January on the proviso , for example scores.nine.goals by end of December...
Just trying to understand the logic.....
Ie there are no guarantees at all that who we spend extra dosh on, won't flop themselves.. It seems from all explanations, selling in January, is not considered. [Post edited 25 Jul 14:30]
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You lose all leverage in January... Like we saw with JD if you believe the £250k rumours. Same with Charlie Austin all those years ago too.
There would equally be no guarantee he would take the move in January. I would imagine if he's sat there on 9 goals with an expiring contract his agent would be far more keen for him to move on a free in the summer as he'd make far more money out of it.
It just amplifies the risk. The only two particularly viable options are we believe in him, he wants to play here and he gets a new deal. Or we sell him this transfer window.
That's all assuming his contract ends next summer of course. |  | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:00 - Jul 25 with 1390 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 12:09 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
Once again, very rich for you to be telling everybody to chill out and trust the process and the project when we had to sit through you slating the team all last season even after they'd won. |
If you're referring to the Derby game, I was very much proven right. 7 game losing streak straight after, and all the warning signs were there. And I'll continue to moan if the football is dog shyte.
As with the issues about Kelman, the decision to sell him had been taken ages ago, so I'm not sure why some are surprised. It's been on X for ages. And it was the clubs decision to cash in.
We are signing a replacement, maybe two. I'm really struggling to see what the problem is?
Get some money, a couple of pacey strikers. Just need a really classy CM and we are rocking! | |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:02 - Jul 25 with 1382 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:00 - Jul 25 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
If you're referring to the Derby game, I was very much proven right. 7 game losing streak straight after, and all the warning signs were there. And I'll continue to moan if the football is dog shyte.
As with the issues about Kelman, the decision to sell him had been taken ages ago, so I'm not sure why some are surprised. It's been on X for ages. And it was the clubs decision to cash in.
We are signing a replacement, maybe two. I'm really struggling to see what the problem is?
Get some money, a couple of pacey strikers. Just need a really classy CM and we are rocking! |
Well then if others want a moan it is, like I say, very rich for you to turn around and give it “trust the process”. | | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:03 - Jul 25 with 1354 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
We haven't had a decent striker who we actually owned for a decade and we're going to sell the top scorer in League 1 for £2m? Seriously, this is a clown 🤡 club. [Post edited 25 Jul 15:03]
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:30 - Jul 25 with 1194 views | derbyhoop |
Kelman hadn't done anything for us in his previous, very limited appearances. He had an outstanding season in L1 last year.
As a selling club, there probably isn't a better time to cash in. And, I'm guessing that is what the club plan to do. Of course, if he ends up at another Championship club and tears it up, we are going to look very foolish.
If he does go, then we need to get the best fee we can, e.g. more than Dykes or Armstrong. And we also need to protect ourselves with a sizeable sell-on?
It appears that a deal for Ba from Schalke is virtually done and we are still interested in Nkada from Ligue 2 Rodez and Tovide from Colchester. Either/both could be a Kelman replacement. | |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:31 - Jul 25 with 1194 views | Myke |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:03 - Jul 25 by Wegerles_Stairs |
We haven't had a decent striker who we actually owned for a decade and we're going to sell the top scorer in League 1 for £2m? Seriously, this is a clown 🤡 club. [Post edited 25 Jul 15:03]
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If true, the only thing that would make that palatable would be a 20% of future transfer. | | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:41 - Jul 25 with 1122 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:02 - Jul 25 by Northernr |
Well then if others want a moan it is, like I say, very rich for you to turn around and give it “trust the process”. |
If we get £3/3.5m which is the rumour that Charlton have paid for Kelman then no one should be moaning at that. That's a great bit of business if true.
I mean, what clubs have come in for him? Luton and that MLS team, that says a lot as to how highly he is rated by those outside the club. Grab the money and run.
We might even be able to buy a CM that can pass. | |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:48 - Jul 25 with 1037 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:41 - Jul 25 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
If we get £3/3.5m which is the rumour that Charlton have paid for Kelman then no one should be moaning at that. That's a great bit of business if true.
I mean, what clubs have come in for him? Luton and that MLS team, that says a lot as to how highly he is rated by those outside the club. Grab the money and run.
We might even be able to buy a CM that can pass. |
Not my point at all.
We had to sit through you coating the team off every week last season, if people want to do the same this season you can't then turn round and give it all this "why don't you support the club" "why don't you trust the process" stuff. It's hypocritical.
It'd be like me slagging posters off for writing too much. | | | |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread (n/t) on 15:49 - Jul 25 with 1036 views | KensalT |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:41 - Jul 25 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
If we get £3/3.5m which is the rumour that Charlton have paid for Kelman then no one should be moaning at that. That's a great bit of business if true.
I mean, what clubs have come in for him? Luton and that MLS team, that says a lot as to how highly he is rated by those outside the club. Grab the money and run.
We might even be able to buy a CM that can pass. |
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| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:59 - Jul 25 with 926 views | QPR_John |
| The QPR summer transfer rumours thread on 15:41 - Jul 25 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
If we get £3/3.5m which is the rumour that Charlton have paid for Kelman then no one should be moaning at that. That's a great bit of business if true.
I mean, what clubs have come in for him? Luton and that MLS team, that says a lot as to how highly he is rated by those outside the club. Grab the money and run.
We might even be able to buy a CM that can pass. |
Is it the case Kelman will not sign a contract regardless of what we offer. In the first instance cannot see where Charlton have £3M to spend and then pay at least what we are offering in wages. [Post edited 25 Jul 16:01]
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