| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:18 - Jun 5 with 3980 views | daveB |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:41 - Jun 5 by ichbinnaughty |
For what it's worth, I'd be happy with one of
- Lee Carsley
- Michael Carrick
- Steve Cooper
- Gary O'Neill |
I'd be quite happy with Margot Robbie or Kelly Brook but thats as likely to happen as any of those 4 |  | |  |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:20 - Jun 5 with 3947 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 18:03 - Jun 5 by lassel |
At the risk of being cynical Brian, the club have effectively blacklisted North for daring to ask for interviews with the manager, refusing ‘interviews’ asking preapproved questions to less senior staff members and writing how he feels on here.
Whilst I’m sure QPR don’t make or break Dave Mc’s year financially, he probably can’t afford to be banished completely as well. |
So now you’re saying, Dave Mc is on QPR payroll. Amazing. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:26 - Jun 5 with 3887 views | 1JD |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 16:16 - Jun 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree.
Dave Mc. seems to have gone very soft on the club of late. |
Noticed this too.
Almost as if a deal has been made with Nourry. I’ll seed you club insights if you give me good press.
Queue the new articles that are appearing in higher frequency than prior and the media blackout. But with a far softer tone than before, and arguably with a positive spin.
Something smells fishy to me. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:28 - Jun 5 with 3867 views | sprocket |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:18 - Jun 5 by daveB |
I'd be quite happy with Margot Robbie or Kelly Brook but thats as likely to happen as any of those 4 |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:28 - Jun 5 with 3867 views | 1JD |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:49 - Jun 5 by daveB |
Always laugh at the club when they reveal these numbers, up 4% on last year, is all bollocks, is only open to renewals so far so by the end of the month best case we have sold the same number as last year, it can't be more |
Additionally, who trusts anything coming out of the club these days? Probably 4% down. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:43 - Jun 5 with 3763 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:20 - Jun 5 by JamesB1979 |
So now you’re saying, Dave Mc is on QPR payroll. Amazing. |
That’s not what I said at all. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:45 - Jun 5 with 3742 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:43 - Jun 5 by lassel |
That’s not what I said at all. |
You definitely implied it. Read your last sentence again. Why mention financial side of things? He can’t afford to be banished….. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:48 - Jun 5 with 3716 views | baz_qpr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 17:56 - Jun 5 by dmm |
Julien Stephan now evens. Thorup 3/1. Alessio Lisci 8/1. And so it goes. Do the bookies have any real idea? I don't think so. They're just putting stuff out there to tempt people to part with their hard earned.. |
its a book it follows the money and it takes very little to move this market |  | | |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:49 - Jun 5 with 3702 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:26 - Jun 5 by 1JD |
Noticed this too.
Almost as if a deal has been made with Nourry. I’ll seed you club insights if you give me good press.
Queue the new articles that are appearing in higher frequency than prior and the media blackout. But with a far softer tone than before, and arguably with a positive spin.
Something smells fishy to me. |
Well, to be fair, there could be a few reasons for the softening.
But it is noticeable. |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:54 - Jun 5 with 3645 views | lassel |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:45 - Jun 5 by JamesB1979 |
You definitely implied it. Read your last sentence again. Why mention financial side of things? He can’t afford to be banished….. |
I implied nothing. You’re just desperate to see something that isn’t there.
I assume his income comes at least in part from West London Sport. While QPR aren’t the focus there anymore, they still do regular pieces on the club & Dave still clearly has some ins at the club. Getting banished like North for being mildly critical and having to wind down even further his content on the club would presumably affect that.
The club already have a PR consultancy on retainer, they aren’t paying Dave to write favourable stuff ffs. [Post edited 5 Jun 19:55]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:03 - Jun 5 with 3569 views | QPRSam |
Reading through this thread I'm ready to learn that Christian Nourry is the head of the New World Order. I think we need football season back ASAP | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 with 3431 views | Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:34 - Jun 5 with 3368 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 by Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. |
I’m a shit poster, but can I ask a question anyway?
Overall, are we in a better place under Nourry than we was under Ferdinand in your opinion? [Post edited 5 Jun 20:36]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:36 - Jun 5 with 3327 views | PhilmyRs |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:26 - Jun 5 by 1JD |
Noticed this too.
Almost as if a deal has been made with Nourry. I’ll seed you club insights if you give me good press.
Queue the new articles that are appearing in higher frequency than prior and the media blackout. But with a far softer tone than before, and arguably with a positive spin.
Something smells fishy to me. |
Oh come on, Dave Mc on the Nourry payroll haha. Those that don’t lose their sh*t at every move of Christian must have an ulterior motive. I listened to the podcast and it was quite balanced. Rightfully flagged a lot wrong, particularly with the Ben Williams stuff but people suggesting Dave Mc is being played by the club…no, not for me. Gallen and him were also very much on the same page, although perhaps not on what to do with Varane. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:39 - Jun 5 with 3307 views | JamesB1979 |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 by Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. |
I thought you were balanced. I did have one question…..is a manager announcement imminent or was this just me reading too much into what you said at the end? | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 21:23 - Jun 5 with 2954 views | PhilmyRs |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 by Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. |
I don’t know you Dave but very much enjoy your west London podcast, and even the sly digs at MK Dons Kevin Gallen. I think you provide honest opinions on Rangers, most of which is backed up with fact. I don’t think you need to come on here to defend yourself.
Think emotions are running high with a popular, and to me at least, decent manager, having been effectively sacked by the club, has riled a lot of the fanbase. I think you’re interpretation of events has been balanced. | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 21:52 - Jun 5 with 2735 views | QPunkR |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:18 - Jun 5 by daveB |
I'd be quite happy with Margot Robbie or Kelly Brook but thats as likely to happen as any of those 4 |
My mate had that Kelly Brook in the back of his cab a couple of weeks back. Said she was a smashing lass |  |
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:26 - Jun 5 with 2535 views | oldchap |
I do not normally post but in case of doubt, I have supported QPR since 1968 when we beat Sheffield Wed at home in the old First Division. Various reasons led to me not attending matches for most of the 1980s and 90s. Change of circumstances meant I returned and have been a season ticket holder now for a number of years.
So I have no allegiance to the current board, CEO or head coach, all of whom come and go. My allegiance and emotional bond is to QPR for the many disappointments and the occasional amazing moments of joy.
It is sad to see fellow supporters pick holes in each other and seek out reasons as to why they display a particular bias. This situation is an embarrassment for the club but I suspect that the current silence is one imposed by the solicitors representing each party as they attempt to reach a settlement. Ultimately this is simply abouit money, who gets what and any restrictions and what either side can say. The solicitors will be stressing that any public statements that are capable of being used in a negative way by the other side will prolong and make more difficult any outcome. I would say that if the issue was cut and dried, e.g that MC had committed a serious breach of his contract then the situation would have been resolved much more quickly. Clearly both parties believe they hold the strongest position and that it is worth pursuing. There will not be a clear winner and loser in this mess.
It is not unknown for senior managers to act prematurely and step outside the process with an expectation that smart employment lawyers or HR professionals can simply 'retrofit' the justification for their decision. This can be a costly error. Who knows whether or not this was a factor, something obviously did occur to muddy the waters.
The issue as to whether it is the right decision in the interests of the club is entirely separate and obviously a subject of great interest and debate by us all. Whether that is a debate that will be better informed will depend on what 'facts' leak out in the coming months. Likewise, whether the skill set of the young CEO is adequate for the role(s) he holds will be much clearer over the next 12 months. Hopefully whatever the outcome of this situation, he learns from it, and does not treat it as some form of victory and personal vindication. To get to this position is a failure for everyone. Kicking lumps out of each other or questioning whether a journalist has been 'got at' is a result of the distrust that has grown by the approach of senior leaders at the football club. They need to do better.
From a football perspective, I think it is a shame that MC will be leaving. The football was inconsistent and he still had a lot to learn but he seemed to be a smart guy and some stability in that position would have been welcome, but lets hope for better things...! | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:28 - Jun 5 with 2523 views | daveB |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:26 - Jun 5 by 1JD |
Noticed this too.
Almost as if a deal has been made with Nourry. I’ll seed you club insights if you give me good press.
Queue the new articles that are appearing in higher frequency than prior and the media blackout. But with a far softer tone than before, and arguably with a positive spin.
Something smells fishy to me. |
What did he say in that podcast that was good press for Nourry? | | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:29 - Jun 5 with 2518 views | Northernr |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 by Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. |
No apology necessary I wish you posted a bit more. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:37 - Jun 5 with 2449 views | eastside_r |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:26 - Jun 5 by oldchap |
I do not normally post but in case of doubt, I have supported QPR since 1968 when we beat Sheffield Wed at home in the old First Division. Various reasons led to me not attending matches for most of the 1980s and 90s. Change of circumstances meant I returned and have been a season ticket holder now for a number of years.
So I have no allegiance to the current board, CEO or head coach, all of whom come and go. My allegiance and emotional bond is to QPR for the many disappointments and the occasional amazing moments of joy.
It is sad to see fellow supporters pick holes in each other and seek out reasons as to why they display a particular bias. This situation is an embarrassment for the club but I suspect that the current silence is one imposed by the solicitors representing each party as they attempt to reach a settlement. Ultimately this is simply abouit money, who gets what and any restrictions and what either side can say. The solicitors will be stressing that any public statements that are capable of being used in a negative way by the other side will prolong and make more difficult any outcome. I would say that if the issue was cut and dried, e.g that MC had committed a serious breach of his contract then the situation would have been resolved much more quickly. Clearly both parties believe they hold the strongest position and that it is worth pursuing. There will not be a clear winner and loser in this mess.
It is not unknown for senior managers to act prematurely and step outside the process with an expectation that smart employment lawyers or HR professionals can simply 'retrofit' the justification for their decision. This can be a costly error. Who knows whether or not this was a factor, something obviously did occur to muddy the waters.
The issue as to whether it is the right decision in the interests of the club is entirely separate and obviously a subject of great interest and debate by us all. Whether that is a debate that will be better informed will depend on what 'facts' leak out in the coming months. Likewise, whether the skill set of the young CEO is adequate for the role(s) he holds will be much clearer over the next 12 months. Hopefully whatever the outcome of this situation, he learns from it, and does not treat it as some form of victory and personal vindication. To get to this position is a failure for everyone. Kicking lumps out of each other or questioning whether a journalist has been 'got at' is a result of the distrust that has grown by the approach of senior leaders at the football club. They need to do better.
From a football perspective, I think it is a shame that MC will be leaving. The football was inconsistent and he still had a lot to learn but he seemed to be a smart guy and some stability in that position would have been welcome, but lets hope for better things...! |
Well said Old Chap. If I could upvote this more than once, I would’ve done. |  | | |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 22:44 - Jun 5 with 2400 views | Gloucs_R |
I don't think Dave Mc is on the payroll. I like his dry sense of humour and his podcasts, however sometimes I raise an eyebrow. I posted on here not so long ago that I thought what he was saying felt a little bit club scripted.
But....I do suspect a few free season tickets have been handed out to some Twitter posters. Their complete u turns on Nourry is very suspect. [Post edited 6 Jun 8:53]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 00:24 - Jun 6 with 2085 views | numptydumpty |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 20:25 - Jun 5 by Dave_Mc |
Hi all
I don't usually post (various reasons) and am very, very used to getting stick, although I'm not thinking of this forum when I say that. Also well used to comments about being in or out of favour with various QPR regimes and so on - happens all the time. It's always total and utter rubbish and often ironic to the point that it has me laughing out loud.
But when good posters on here feel like there's some kind of softening or compromise of any kind, I feel like I should respond.
I just wondered if anyone has any examples of this they'd point to or any thoughts on things that should be covered/said that haven't been.
Part of the reason I wouldn't usually do this is out of respect for Clive - not wanting to come on here discussing me! So apologies to him for this. But, like I said, I feel like on this occasion I should respond and might be able to clarify a few things.
Cheers. |
I understand why you wouldn't as a journalist post on a forum that chats about most of the topics you report on Dave and can understand that thinking also and I guess it could bring up a few scenarios that may be legally difficult or opening up cans of worms that are misinterpreted by many of us on here so do respect that.
Myself personally I have learnt not to take much notice of some of the headlines on other sites that are designed for us to delve in and when you read the article its deliberately vague
With WLS, I do take note in particular when you mention strong interest in a player transfer because you do have a very high hit rate as against others that for me are just pure speculation with zero substance
The only article I would say I have seen that for me had seen West London Sport deviate from your norms was the one today. About SWP (obviously many not ultra great memories from QPR fans) recommending Ashley Cole (even less great memories from QPR fans)
For me thats the sort of thing I would post on here for a laugh ie I could not ever see this happening, its not the worst, only the appointment of the man, JT, himself would wind up QPR fans more. I thought perhaps it was a tongue in cheek title because it made me smile. That kind of article is unusual for your organisation though as unlike many other information sources, it certainly appears you are much more in the know as a group compared to others that try to report speculation out of nowhere just to have written something done. And from all I have seen WLS don't operate in this way, which is good.
Whether your in the know compared to others is through experience, contacts or just good old intuition, as said your hit rate is much higher.
If the comment in that article that said appointment soon and the other suggestion being Lee Carsley, I would love that. I would say out of all the names mentioned most of which I personally have no knowledge of them, Lee Carsley would be a brilliant appointment.
Whatever you do or don't know though, please keep doing what you doing and I love to hear all the different pods to get varied reactions.
If I was a journalist I would always be very interested why some got more relevant information and some didn't. Obviously the key to yours and Clives profession, I would assume.
I guessing like most, do want this manager scenario cleared up as quickly as possible and probably like a majority, most of us are disappointed with the treatment of Marti.
The in the know thing on here is amusing. I guess there are perhaps a couple that are much more aware than most but to me me included its clear most of us know diddly squat.... [Post edited 6 Jun 0:41]
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| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 00:36 - Jun 6 with 2070 views | Hunterhoop |
| The QPR summer managers rumours thread on 19:20 - Jun 5 by JamesB1979 |
So now you’re saying, Dave Mc is on QPR payroll. Amazing. |
I think the tone has changed but it is hard to explain/evidence. [Post edited 6 Jun 0:40]
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