| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient 12:00 - Feb 8 with 143075 views | DannyPaddox |
Up against Man City in the FFS that was offside FA Cup. I prepare to stand corrected but I think Charlie is still our player but as I take as much interest in modern football players contracts and transfers as I do in mobile phone contracts I could be wrong. Either way seems like a good lad and having a decent season with a club I like so up the O’s!
Up against a central defender today in Ruben Dias who’s worth approx £75 mil … would love to see Charlie meg him. [Post edited 8 Feb 12:07]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:09 - May 11 with 4320 views | nadera78 |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:52 - May 11 by Ned_Kennedys |
What was your point then? If it wasn’t about anyone at the club having any time to assess Kelman it was therefore just an attempt to shoehorn in another dig at the inexperienced DOF. |
It was a very simple one, actually. Waiting until the season starts isn't a smart thing to do because if he starts poorly then his price will have fallen. Hence the need to make that decision now. I don't know about you, but I want qualified, competent people making these decisions. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:20 - May 11 with 4250 views | QPROslo |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:44 - May 11 by mart_Goblin |
It’s odd because Celar and Kelman are very similar in style , build , speed and attributes. Both really don’t want to get involved too much until the ball is played into the box .
Both completely different to the striker our style of play has required , not just in the first team but watching a little of the Dev squad too.
So do we adjust our way of playing slightly to get the best out of a pair of strikers who have potential to know where the goal is at this level, or will we just watch them flounder and seem uninterested according to the club’s ‘methodology’ and be calling them both useless ( I know I was ) after 3 games of next season ?
Hate to go over old ground but it brings into question again why Celar was brought in knowing how we were going to play and set up and who made that disjointed decision ? |
Our main priority for me if affordable, is a big, strong, hold-up type traditional striker who can feed balls into space in the box for the likes of Kelman, Celar, Koli maybe and can score a few himself. He'd need to have some pace, an upgrade on Dykes if you like with Frey as back-up if he's staying for next season. But as you say that would need a "tweak" to the favoured methodology. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:39 - May 11 with 4153 views | Loyalitat |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:21 - May 10 by davman |
It's not all about the goals he has scored though. We have to bring him in at the start of pre-season and evaluate him. He may work out, he may not. I do not profess to have seen too much of him this season, but I have watched a couple of games including today's one and I just don't see much there that would endear him to me.
Yes, the goals are really important and the tally is massively impressive, but he doesn't seem to be involved enough in the game. Not a big presser,not a target man as he doesn't seem to hold up particularly well and isn't any presence defensively.
But. The. Goals.
Got to try him, got to have everything crossed that I am wrong, but from what I have seen, it is no shoe in that he will solve our long standing goalscoring issues. |
I can think of 23 reasons, and counting, why he should be given his chance next season. He has clearly acquired the knack to score goals by getting himself into dangerous scoring areas through his improved anticipation.
Nobody held Ryan Hardie in high regard before Plymouth's promotion. Yet he went on to score 13 and 10 league goals, respectively, in his two seasons at championship level. Kelman has scored more goals than Hardie did when he last played in division one. The portents are promising, he's earned the right to be given a proper opportunity next season. [Post edited 11 May 10:41]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:48 - May 11 with 4100 views | francisbowles |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:09 - May 11 by nadera78 |
It was a very simple one, actually. Waiting until the season starts isn't a smart thing to do because if he starts poorly then his price will have fallen. Hence the need to make that decision now. I don't know about you, but I want qualified, competent people making these decisions. |
We need to try and extend his contract very soon to increase his valuation. If he only has a year left then it will be much lower. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:52 - May 11 with 3830 views | paulparker |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:16 - May 10 by Northernr |
We spent a transfer fee on this guy, and four years of wages.
We sent him out on a development loan, he's developed.
Your other strikers are absolute fcking toilet.
Very excited to see what we do next. |
Needs to be playing for us next year and have a manager who says your playing in your natural position for at least 5 games straight no matter what
The poor lad has never been given a real run of games here and I can’t see a BOS / Manning situation this time next year |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:56 - May 11 with 3834 views | terryb |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:43 - May 11 by Hoopstar |
I didn't catch the pre-match interview but saw mentioned that Wellens said a deal for Kelman would be sorted un the next week. Would be odd if we sold to Orient as can't imagine they'd be paying what has been touted on here - I'm in the keep and see how he goes camp but couldn't begrudge him wanting to move after four years here though a shame to not see if he could now cut it in the Champ after such a strong season. |
Maybe a part of the loan deal for Kelman was that a fee was set for his transfer if he achieved his targets or if Orient wanted to sign him? as we did for our star player Taylor Richards & for Dembele.
I have no idea if this would be the case, but I can envisage that it's possible. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:02 - May 11 with 3791 views | Gus_iom |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:56 - May 11 by terryb |
Maybe a part of the loan deal for Kelman was that a fee was set for his transfer if he achieved his targets or if Orient wanted to sign him? as we did for our star player Taylor Richards & for Dembele.
I have no idea if this would be the case, but I can envisage that it's possible. |
Ha ha, that would be bloody typical, although given Kelmans career to date and contract situation, understandable. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:20 - May 11 with 3717 views | R_from_afar |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:16 - May 10 by Northernr |
We spent a transfer fee on this guy, and four years of wages.
We sent him out on a development loan, he's developed.
Your other strikers are absolute fcking toilet.
Very excited to see what we do next. |
"Very excited to see what we do next".
With a great fanfare, we'll bring him back.
Then play him in goal, or as a wingback  |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:28 - May 11 with 3652 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:09 - May 11 by nadera78 |
It was a very simple one, actually. Waiting until the season starts isn't a smart thing to do because if he starts poorly then his price will have fallen. Hence the need to make that decision now. I don't know about you, but I want qualified, competent people making these decisions. |
Like the decisions to extend his contract and loan him to Leyton Orient last year? |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:32 - May 11 with 3617 views | johncharles |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:20 - May 11 by R_from_afar |
"Very excited to see what we do next".
With a great fanfare, we'll bring him back.
Then play him in goal, or as a wingback |
On the bench |  |
| Strong and stable my arse. |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:51 - May 11 with 3484 views | MrSheen |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:32 - May 11 by johncharles |
On the bench |
On an associated topic, Albert Adomah was on for the last ten minutes of Walsall’s win at Chesterfield. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - May 12 with 3002 views | SW_Ranger |
So it’s looking, after 24 pages of opinions, very likely that Orient have an option to sign Kelman when his loan finishes. No wonder HQ has been all quiet about his achievements of late. Without knowing the details, we may have lost our best prospect on the cheap.
Watch Orient then sell him on for a massive profit! Nowhere else! | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:40 - May 12 with 2986 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - May 12 by SW_Ranger |
So it’s looking, after 24 pages of opinions, very likely that Orient have an option to sign Kelman when his loan finishes. No wonder HQ has been all quiet about his achievements of late. Without knowing the details, we may have lost our best prospect on the cheap.
Watch Orient then sell him on for a massive profit! Nowhere else! |
We don't know this for a fact, do we? And Kelman's goals, to be fair, have been all over QPR official socials. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:06 - May 12 with 2884 views | QPRSam |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - May 12 by SW_Ranger |
So it’s looking, after 24 pages of opinions, very likely that Orient have an option to sign Kelman when his loan finishes. No wonder HQ has been all quiet about his achievements of late. Without knowing the details, we may have lost our best prospect on the cheap.
Watch Orient then sell him on for a massive profit! Nowhere else! |
They've stepped up his coverage massively on socials recently so I don't get this. Where is the information on a buy option also? | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:13 - May 12 with 2844 views | QPRSam |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:41 - May 10 by nadera78 |
This is a perfect example of why we need an experienced, and qualified, DoF running the show.
If you think he's strictly a L1 player on a hot streak, or that you could better use the money generated elsewhere, then you sell him while the price is high. If you think he's going to get a dozen goals for you next season then you don't.
Whatever decision you come to, there isn't time to give the new coach a chance to assess him, because if you wait and he has a poor start to the season then you miss your window and his value falls. |
A 24 page thread on our loan striker scoring 27 goals eventually being spun into Nourry comments. That wasn't predictable at all | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:25 - May 12 with 2777 views | eghamranger |
I think we need a page for every goal scored. He probably has another 2 games, so we have a few pages to go yet |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 10:19 - May 12 with 2656 views | TheChef |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 09:25 - May 12 by eghamranger |
I think we need a page for every goal scored. He probably has another 2 games, so we have a few pages to go yet |
LOLZ!
FFS 24 pages on this.
Look forward to him coming back next season and either being good or toilet, with accompanying 'I told you so' thread across 50 pages. |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:34 - May 12 with 2464 views | stantheman10 |
No wonder Kelman has scored loads of goals in in League 1 his first touch is like a shot! He couldn't trap a bag of sand | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 13:00 - May 12 with 2322 views | Ghost_on_the_Westway |
I had a nose on the Bristol City forum at the weekend and there’s a thread suggesting that they should have signed Charlie and not Armstrong.
Ok it’s just one bloke and he didn’t get much support for the suggestion, but I had to laugh. Safe to say they’ve run out of patience with Sinclair down there. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 13:39 - May 12 with 2135 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:56 - May 11 by terryb |
Maybe a part of the loan deal for Kelman was that a fee was set for his transfer if he achieved his targets or if Orient wanted to sign him? as we did for our star player Taylor Richards & for Dembele.
I have no idea if this would be the case, but I can envisage that it's possible. |
Easy tiger. Some folk reading this can't tell the difference between speculation and fact. It'll be in the LFW Glossary soon. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:46 - May 12 with 2019 views | aston_hoop |
I believe Leyton Orient's record transfer is something like £115k from back in the early 90s. Would have to have a very sudden change of budget to suddenly afford Kelman |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:33 - May 12 with 1901 views | kensalriser |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - May 12 by SW_Ranger |
So it’s looking, after 24 pages of opinions, very likely that Orient have an option to sign Kelman when his loan finishes. No wonder HQ has been all quiet about his achievements of late. Without knowing the details, we may have lost our best prospect on the cheap.
Watch Orient then sell him on for a massive profit! Nowhere else! |
Nowhere else? You might want to take a look at Chelsea's recent record on that count. |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:41 - May 12 with 1645 views | francisbowles |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - May 12 by SW_Ranger |
So it’s looking, after 24 pages of opinions, very likely that Orient have an option to sign Kelman when his loan finishes. No wonder HQ has been all quiet about his achievements of late. Without knowing the details, we may have lost our best prospect on the cheap.
Watch Orient then sell him on for a massive profit! Nowhere else! |
Over reaction to speculation? | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:44 - May 14 with 1110 views | Dorse |
Charlie's playing tonight. 2-2 from the first leg - winner stays on. Donley, on loan from Spurs, is also getting rave reviews. It's not like we need another '10' but people rate him. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:06 - May 14 with 1031 views | MrSheen |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:44 - May 14 by Dorse |
Charlie's playing tonight. 2-2 from the first leg - winner stays on. Donley, on loan from Spurs, is also getting rave reviews. It's not like we need another '10' but people rate him. |
Os one up already. Not Charlie shock. | | | |
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