| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient 12:00 - Feb 8 with 143417 views | DannyPaddox |
Up against Man City in the FFS that was offside FA Cup. I prepare to stand corrected but I think Charlie is still our player but as I take as much interest in modern football players contracts and transfers as I do in mobile phone contracts I could be wrong. Either way seems like a good lad and having a decent season with a club I like so up the O’s!
Up against a central defender today in Ruben Dias who’s worth approx £75 mil … would love to see Charlie meg him. [Post edited 8 Feb 12:07]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:03 - May 10 with 3551 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 16:17 - May 10 by QuillPenRiot |
All opinions aside the new head coach will want to take a look at him. If his improvement is deemed good enough and fits the style of play, he’ll stay. If either of those aren’t true, they’ll likely sell him and use the money for another statistically-sound-non-proven-in-the-championship-foreign-player. |
I agree though the new head coach may be hamstrung by Charlie's current contract situation. Even if he likes him there's no guarantee that the club are willing to offer a contract extension or that the player is interested in signing one. If neither the club nor the player is interested in extending then the smart play is to sell whilst Kelman's stock is high.
Given our dearth of options up front and Charlie's clear improvement, I think he's worth a contract extension. However, this club and its board works in mysterious ways. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:05 - May 10 with 3558 views | aston_hoop |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 18:54 - May 10 by kensalriser |
Madsen £4m now. At this rate he'll have cost us £10m by August. |
Always fascinates me this. Was £2 million according to WLS when we first signed him. Since then he's been £3 million mostly, occasionally £3.5 million. I suppose 4 is the natural progression |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:41 - May 10 with 3369 views | FDC |
Four million euros was the figure banded around when he signed I think. Maybe it's fluctuating with the exchange rate? [Post edited 10 May 19:42]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:45 - May 10 with 3344 views | daveB |
problem might be him not wanting to sign a new contract, he won't be short of offers now but well worth giving him a chance next season |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:13 - May 10 with 3207 views | Toast_R |
Strange situation: If he wasn't already a signed QPR player, we'd be delighted to be linked with signing him. It's quite possible a player can improve once he's found his confidence. I think of Les Ferdinand out on loan at Turkey. Did anyone think then, he'd become possibly the greatest player to pull on the shirt? |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:16 - May 10 with 3179 views | Northernr |
We spent a transfer fee on this guy, and four years of wages.
We sent him out on a development loan, he's developed.
Your other strikers are absolute fcking toilet.
Very excited to see what we do next. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:48 - May 10 with 2909 views | derbyhoop |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:21 - May 10 by SW_Ranger |
A dozen goals! That’s a high bar Nadera, our top scorer this season only has 8; our second highest has 5 and he’s out of contract and likely leaving. |
CK may not be good enough for the Championship but, if he turns out to be a 1 in 4 striker, at our level, that would be more than acceptable |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:49 - May 10 with 2891 views | numptydumpty |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 18:40 - May 10 by richpr |
Oh numpty dumpty - IT'S ONLY AN OPINION !!!!!!
Obviously not allowed on LFW
No - I don't think I should be head coach,
yes, he has been sleeping with my deceased wife
Yes, I'm totally ridiculous and bonkers
What a bunch of vitriolic bigots
You've achieved your objective
Adios |
Sorry wasn't meant to upset
Was all said tongue in cheek
Yes you.are allowed an opinion
I am sorry part of my humour fell flat
I don't.agree we.shoild get rid.of Charlie when he comes.back but yes if thats your opinion you are entitled to it and i am sorry you no longer have your.wife alongside you. That's tough absolutely.
Take good care.of yourself Rich. |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:53 - May 10 with 2853 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Loving the 23 pages on the greatest QPR striker to never having actually scored for QPR.
Que him being sold 🤣 |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:08 - May 10 with 2792 views | VancouverHoop |
The cardinal skill Kelman's acquired at Orient — and it's one every successful striker has to have — is to know where to be before the ball arrives. It sounds simple, stupid even, but it isn't. Charlie Austin had that ability, Lyndon Dykes never did. You don't see Kelman running around futilely chasing lost causes very often, at least not in the few games I've watched him in this season. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:26 - May 10 with 2723 views | corse |
Pheeeewwww....ok. He has been far better than I expected him to be this season playing for Os and surely has had an excellent season but i cant help it that i do have this nagging feeling and what i ve seen of him that he wont do it in championship. I hope im wrong and eventually we do make a hefty load of cash selling him.
Time will tell. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:41 - May 10 with 2647 views | francisbowles |
I posted this a month ago. Nothing since had made me change my mind. In fact I am even stronger in this view.
'We should offer him a new contract. If he signs it will increase his value and give us a chance to have a look and make a decision in time for the January window.
If he won't sign we should look for the highest offer this summer and then decide to stick, knowing he will eventually leave for nothing, or sell.' | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:47 - May 10 with 2609 views | nadera78 |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:40 - May 10 by Ned_Kennedys |
Kelman is going to be at Orient for at least another week: bit premature to be moaning about assessing him yet. We then have all summer to assess him as the transfer window doesn’t close until September. |
You couldn't have missed the point more if you'd tried. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:03 - May 10 with 2535 views | silky |
All depends if we can play to his strengths and fits in with whatever style we are playing.
Definitely worth keeping in my opinion, every player develops at different ages. Look at Vardy, 27 and went on to have a fantastic career.
We'd definitely would have a thread saying we should look to buy if he wasn't our player. He is, let's see what he can do.
Unless we get a ridiculously high offer for him. |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:31 - May 10 with 2460 views | hoops_legend |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:16 - May 10 by Northernr |
We spent a transfer fee on this guy, and four years of wages.
We sent him out on a development loan, he's developed.
Your other strikers are absolute fcking toilet.
Very excited to see what we do next. |
Hard to say out strikers are toilet. Improvement needed? Yea, but Celar has been injured half the season, Frey has been fine but still rusty, kolli is more a forward, Lloyd needs developing
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 01:22 - May 11 with 2247 views | Boston |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:26 - May 10 by corse |
Pheeeewwww....ok. He has been far better than I expected him to be this season playing for Os and surely has had an excellent season but i cant help it that i do have this nagging feeling and what i ve seen of him that he wont do it in championship. I hope im wrong and eventually we do make a hefty load of cash selling him.
Time will tell. |
Even if he can't hack it at this level, he's a bloody valuable asset in League One, where he will fetch decent offers. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 04:32 - May 11 with 2130 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:31 - May 10 by hoops_legend |
Hard to say out strikers are toilet. Improvement needed? Yea, but Celar has been injured half the season, Frey has been fine but still rusty, kolli is more a forward, Lloyd needs developing
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I find it easy. Prior to his injury Celar was poor in every game bar Cardiff. Frey isn't rusty, he's injury prone. Lloyd is very raw and should be out on loan instead of Kelman. Kolli has shown some promise and is probably the only one I'm excited to see develop. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 05:02 - May 11 with 2109 views | QPROslo |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 23:03 - May 10 by silky |
All depends if we can play to his strengths and fits in with whatever style we are playing.
Definitely worth keeping in my opinion, every player develops at different ages. Look at Vardy, 27 and went on to have a fantastic career.
We'd definitely would have a thread saying we should look to buy if he wasn't our player. He is, let's see what he can do.
Unless we get a ridiculously high offer for him. |
If potentially he can score close to the number of goals for us next season as he has for Orient this, it's not inconceivable that we adapt our our style of play to fit his strengths. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:13 - May 11 with 2013 views | dmm |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:48 - May 10 by derbyhoop |
CK may not be good enough for the Championship but, if he turns out to be a 1 in 4 striker, at our level, that would be more than acceptable |
That would be 11/12 goals for the season, so as good a goals to games ratio as any striker we've had since Austin 10 years ago.
Interestingly, Frey is slightly better than that this season at 1 in 3.5 games.
I'm yet to be convinced that Kelman or Frey - or Celar for that matter - are the answers to our long-standing striker problem, but unless there's an Eze sale this summer, they will probably be the best we can hope for. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:55 - May 11 with 1922 views | Gus_iom |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 18:54 - May 10 by kensalriser |
Madsen £4m now. At this rate he'll have cost us £10m by August. |
He must have been signed on a contract with add-on's.
So, 3 assists and a goal late on added another million.
Apparently the next add-on is triggered by him sprinting, which is why he was told not to until next year.
Similar thing with Celar, the next outgoing on him is triggered by his third goal, so we told him to play dead for the rest of the season. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:00 - May 11 with 1908 views | Gus_iom |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:08 - May 10 by VancouverHoop |
The cardinal skill Kelman's acquired at Orient — and it's one every successful striker has to have — is to know where to be before the ball arrives. It sounds simple, stupid even, but it isn't. Charlie Austin had that ability, Lyndon Dykes never did. You don't see Kelman running around futilely chasing lost causes very often, at least not in the few games I've watched him in this season. |
'Cardinal skill' - we were hoping the Vatican were going to make a bid. I actually thought they had when I heard about the nationality of the new incumbent.
Was worried we'd do a direct swap. Still haunted by the Sinclair transfer. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:43 - May 11 with 1773 views | Hoopstar |
I didn't catch the pre-match interview but saw mentioned that Wellens said a deal for Kelman would be sorted un the next week. Would be odd if we sold to Orient as can't imagine they'd be paying what has been touted on here - I'm in the keep and see how he goes camp but couldn't begrudge him wanting to move after four years here though a shame to not see if he could now cut it in the Champ after such a strong season. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:24 - May 11 with 1603 views | Hoopsie |
We are tearing at each other speculating is Kelman any good, why not ask the man himself - any QPR. Podcast or Clive here happy to do a one-on-one interview to see if the man himself is happy to stay? |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:44 - May 11 with 1526 views | mart_Goblin |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 05:02 - May 11 by QPROslo |
If potentially he can score close to the number of goals for us next season as he has for Orient this, it's not inconceivable that we adapt our our style of play to fit his strengths. |
It’s odd because Celar and Kelman are very similar in style , build , speed and attributes. Both really don’t want to get involved too much until the ball is played into the box .
Both completely different to the striker our style of play has required , not just in the first team but watching a little of the Dev squad too.
So do we adjust our way of playing slightly to get the best out of a pair of strikers who have potential to know where the goal is at this level, or will we just watch them flounder and seem uninterested according to the club’s ‘methodology’ and be calling them both useless ( I know I was ) after 3 games of next season ?
Hate to go over old ground but it brings into question again why Celar was brought in knowing how we were going to play and set up and who made that disjointed decision ? |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:52 - May 11 with 1478 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:47 - May 10 by nadera78 |
You couldn't have missed the point more if you'd tried. |
What was your point then? If it wasn’t about anyone at the club having any time to assess Kelman it was therefore just an attempt to shoehorn in another dig at the inexperienced DOF. |  | | |
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