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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 07:57 - Aug 28 by Ad99
Why do these gimps on Twitter feel the need to sit there and make stuff up? Bizarre existence.
Absolutely. They get a few hours of fame followed by a lifetime of hatred when if turns out they just made everything up.
But then in life in general, lying seems to be becoming perfectly acceptable. It's appalling.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:44 - Aug 28 with 2342 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:31 - Aug 28 by Stainrod
That was more because players were not fit/ performing / motivated sufficiently.
We have seen every single one of those players (bar perhaps Walsh) play to a much higher level.
You have long argued that one of our mistakes is to constantly think Nirvana lies with yet another signing.
Are you now saying we bin off Morrison or Varane (just picked at random) because they are playing poorly, and buy better players?
We can’t buy a new squad because they have had a terrible start. If anything, the opposite. We need to build fitness levels, understand why the motivation appears lacking, work on that, and somehow craft these players into a team.
But with a new coach, half a new team, a few signings who haven’t had a pre-season, and the usual ridiculous number of injuries that isn’t (realistically) all going to happen immediately.
No, it's the club that seem to think nirvana lies with another signing. We've made three already this week, and now chasing another. It's certainly not me signing one tiny ten after another when we don't have a midfield, or one centre back after another when we don't have a full back.
I think you don't win many games by losing midfield. And it's been bloody obvious for literally years that's a key problem with the team. Until we signed Isaac Hayden on Monday, which we could have done at any point over the past 12 months and certainly at any point this summer, we've done nothing about that. That will help us stop teams walking right through the middle of us, but it won't progress the ball out of midfield.
But there's so much else wrong than that. Our physical conditioning, fitness and injury situation is a joke. They're trying to blind you with new signing and availability stats, but it's there for all to see. And while that's the case you can sign who you like basically, you're just pissing into a furnace.
This international break has to be spent redoing the pre-season we clearly haven't done. This 'slow burn' nonsense needs knocking on the head, or the people leading it do. We've started the last two seasons 2/17 and as it stands will do that again. People were trying to tell me Cifuentes was at fault for that last year - looks good at this point doesn't it?
That's without getting into a general discussion about the standards at QPR. What's acceptable and what's not. Why we lose 7-1, 6-0 and 5-0 as often as we do. Why we crash out of cups to lower league teams as often as we do. That's a standards issue. There's no accountability for that. Nobody standing there at 3-0 and saying 'right, no fcking more now'.
There's a lot more wrong than a new midfielder. But a new midfielder would be fcking useful atm.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:45 - Aug 28 with 2324 views
At the moment we are like a Christmas tree with lots of shiny baubles and glittery stars hangingfrom it, but it has a rotten trunk that means it all comes crashing down the moment it comes under any pressure.
Fix the CM finish top half, don't and its 16th again.
I'd prefer not to sign Ronnie and fix the midfield.
There is no way we can sign 2 or 3 CMs on top of Field, Varane, Hayden, Madsen, Morgan and Vale (even ignoring EDB and Richards). You might not think some or perhaps even all of those players are good enough but they are the players we have.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:46 - Aug 28 with 2303 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:08 - Aug 28 by JamesB1979
Agree on the wages but I guess that shouldn’t be too big an issue. I’m not Itk at all, so all just a hunch, but I think Ronnie is pushing this because he doesn’t want to sit on the bench. And it seems that he will. I don’t think Southampton do want him out, even on a loan, as they need the “cover” but they also don’t want an unhappy player. Also, more he plays, better his value. His value will also go down on the bench.
I’ve just checked, and RE has started three games this season.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:49 - Aug 28 with 2234 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:44 - Aug 28 by Northernr
No, it's the club that seem to think nirvana lies with another signing. We've made three already this week, and now chasing another. It's certainly not me signing one tiny ten after another when we don't have a midfield, or one centre back after another when we don't have a full back.
I think you don't win many games by losing midfield. And it's been bloody obvious for literally years that's a key problem with the team. Until we signed Isaac Hayden on Monday, which we could have done at any point over the past 12 months and certainly at any point this summer, we've done nothing about that. That will help us stop teams walking right through the middle of us, but it won't progress the ball out of midfield.
But there's so much else wrong than that. Our physical conditioning, fitness and injury situation is a joke. They're trying to blind you with new signing and availability stats, but it's there for all to see. And while that's the case you can sign who you like basically, you're just pissing into a furnace.
This international break has to be spent redoing the pre-season we clearly haven't done. This 'slow burn' nonsense needs knocking on the head, or the people leading it do. We've started the last two seasons 2/17 and as it stands will do that again. People were trying to tell me Cifuentes was at fault for that last year - looks good at this point doesn't it?
That's without getting into a general discussion about the standards at QPR. What's acceptable and what's not. Why we lose 7-1, 6-0 and 5-0 as often as we do. Why we crash out of cups to lower league teams as often as we do. That's a standards issue. There's no accountability for that. Nobody standing there at 3-0 and saying 'right, no fcking more now'.
There's a lot more wrong than a new midfielder. But a new midfielder would be fcking useful atm.
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The QPR paradox is that we always make a signing but never in the right position.
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:44 - Aug 28 by Northernr
No, it's the club that seem to think nirvana lies with another signing. We've made three already this week, and now chasing another. It's certainly not me signing one tiny ten after another when we don't have a midfield, or one centre back after another when we don't have a full back.
I think you don't win many games by losing midfield. And it's been bloody obvious for literally years that's a key problem with the team. Until we signed Isaac Hayden on Monday, which we could have done at any point over the past 12 months and certainly at any point this summer, we've done nothing about that. That will help us stop teams walking right through the middle of us, but it won't progress the ball out of midfield.
But there's so much else wrong than that. Our physical conditioning, fitness and injury situation is a joke. They're trying to blind you with new signing and availability stats, but it's there for all to see. And while that's the case you can sign who you like basically, you're just pissing into a furnace.
This international break has to be spent redoing the pre-season we clearly haven't done. This 'slow burn' nonsense needs knocking on the head, or the people leading it do. We've started the last two seasons 2/17 and as it stands will do that again. People were trying to tell me Cifuentes was at fault for that last year - looks good at this point doesn't it?
That's without getting into a general discussion about the standards at QPR. What's acceptable and what's not. Why we lose 7-1, 6-0 and 5-0 as often as we do. Why we crash out of cups to lower league teams as often as we do. That's a standards issue. There's no accountability for that. Nobody standing there at 3-0 and saying 'right, no fcking more now'.
There's a lot more wrong than a new midfielder. But a new midfielder would be fcking useful atm.
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Don’t disagree with anything you say in this post.
I was taking issue with your previous post when you said we are more than one player short.
Pretty well every fan has identified the inability of the midfield to progress the ball (I had to self censor myself from commenting on it last season because I was starting to bore myself).
But where do we go from here?
Personally I’m not convinced Varane or Field can be taught to pass forward. The way Varane pinged a heavy ball straight back to Walsh on Saturday who had already conceded several goals and was clearly soiling himself was just unacceptable. And very few truly believe Madsen can be taught to tackle. And Morgan looks fairly lightweight.
So can we sell any of those players?
I don’t see a queue of buyers.
But as you would say we can’t keep racking and stacking players on top of the existing.
So we (as fans anyway) all get the problem: but in fairness, no easy solutions.
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:44 - Aug 28 by Northernr
No, it's the club that seem to think nirvana lies with another signing. We've made three already this week, and now chasing another. It's certainly not me signing one tiny ten after another when we don't have a midfield, or one centre back after another when we don't have a full back.
I think you don't win many games by losing midfield. And it's been bloody obvious for literally years that's a key problem with the team. Until we signed Isaac Hayden on Monday, which we could have done at any point over the past 12 months and certainly at any point this summer, we've done nothing about that. That will help us stop teams walking right through the middle of us, but it won't progress the ball out of midfield.
But there's so much else wrong than that. Our physical conditioning, fitness and injury situation is a joke. They're trying to blind you with new signing and availability stats, but it's there for all to see. And while that's the case you can sign who you like basically, you're just pissing into a furnace.
This international break has to be spent redoing the pre-season we clearly haven't done. This 'slow burn' nonsense needs knocking on the head, or the people leading it do. We've started the last two seasons 2/17 and as it stands will do that again. People were trying to tell me Cifuentes was at fault for that last year - looks good at this point doesn't it?
That's without getting into a general discussion about the standards at QPR. What's acceptable and what's not. Why we lose 7-1, 6-0 and 5-0 as often as we do. Why we crash out of cups to lower league teams as often as we do. That's a standards issue. There's no accountability for that. Nobody standing there at 3-0 and saying 'right, no fcking more now'.
There's a lot more wrong than a new midfielder. But a new midfielder would be fcking useful atm.
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Quite. I posted a few weeks ago that we would be signing 2x strikers, a RB, a LB, a CM and one of Nourry’s midgets.
Since then we have signed 2x strikers, a LB, a CM and one of Nourry’s midgets, with a RB still to come…..
Certain clubs have it in their DNA. Leeds will tell the world they’re massive and embarrass themselves on the pitch. Millwall will disgrace themselves with regularity. Man Utd will get ‘questionable’ refereeing asssutance. QPR sign players!!!
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:06 - Aug 28 with 1928 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:57 - Aug 28 by Stainrod
Don’t disagree with anything you say in this post.
I was taking issue with your previous post when you said we are more than one player short.
Pretty well every fan has identified the inability of the midfield to progress the ball (I had to self censor myself from commenting on it last season because I was starting to bore myself).
But where do we go from here?
Personally I’m not convinced Varane or Field can be taught to pass forward. The way Varane pinged a heavy ball straight back to Walsh on Saturday who had already conceded several goals and was clearly soiling himself was just unacceptable. And very few truly believe Madsen can be taught to tackle. And Morgan looks fairly lightweight.
So can we sell any of those players?
I don’t see a queue of buyers.
But as you would say we can’t keep racking and stacking players on top of the existing.
So we (as fans anyway) all get the problem: but in fairness, no easy solutions.
One simple solution which our whole coaching team and heads of methodology seem to have overlooked is to move the damn ball quicker. One of the reasons we can't progress the ball forward is that our midfield are constantly facing our goal. If we moved the ball quicker they'd have time to turn and face forward. Plus here's some Neanderthal thinking....... go long and turn the other team round so we're running towards their goal for a change. And maybe just maybe if we go long it will create more space in midfield.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:14 - Aug 28 with 1807 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:06 - Aug 28 by charmr
It crossed my mind while on the official website how propergandist it seems to have become.
Everything’s awesome.
this is a tough one though I think - cos what else are they supposed to say? If you read my few posts on here you will see that I'm no fan of the current regime but this is not one of the areas I am critical of. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see things ain't sweetness and light currently, but I really don't see what else the club could or should do on the official website
Glory hunter, me
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:37 - Aug 28 with 1474 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:44 - Aug 28 by Northernr
No, it's the club that seem to think nirvana lies with another signing. We've made three already this week, and now chasing another. It's certainly not me signing one tiny ten after another when we don't have a midfield, or one centre back after another when we don't have a full back.
I think you don't win many games by losing midfield. And it's been bloody obvious for literally years that's a key problem with the team. Until we signed Isaac Hayden on Monday, which we could have done at any point over the past 12 months and certainly at any point this summer, we've done nothing about that. That will help us stop teams walking right through the middle of us, but it won't progress the ball out of midfield.
But there's so much else wrong than that. Our physical conditioning, fitness and injury situation is a joke. They're trying to blind you with new signing and availability stats, but it's there for all to see. And while that's the case you can sign who you like basically, you're just pissing into a furnace.
This international break has to be spent redoing the pre-season we clearly haven't done. This 'slow burn' nonsense needs knocking on the head, or the people leading it do. We've started the last two seasons 2/17 and as it stands will do that again. People were trying to tell me Cifuentes was at fault for that last year - looks good at this point doesn't it?
That's without getting into a general discussion about the standards at QPR. What's acceptable and what's not. Why we lose 7-1, 6-0 and 5-0 as often as we do. Why we crash out of cups to lower league teams as often as we do. That's a standards issue. There's no accountability for that. Nobody standing there at 3-0 and saying 'right, no fcking more now'.
There's a lot more wrong than a new midfielder. But a new midfielder would be fcking useful atm.
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All fantastic points. But, we should also talk about our desire to please fans, and the huge PR exercise, around some of our signings. So we must "bring Saito", "bring Edwards" without really looking at the balance of the squad.
Why does this keep happening, because we have not got a football person in any senior position at the club. Recruitment and structure built on sand. Brighton and Brentford, seen as the forerunners for these models, still had football people there.
I do think we needed Hayden though, he's a grown up, he should set some standards on the pitch, because some of the stuff we've seen recently from some of our attacking midfielders after losing the ball constantly, has been nothing short of disgraceful.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:41 - Aug 28 with 1377 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:47 - Aug 28 by BazzaInTheLoft
I’ve just checked, and RE has started three games this season.
He has but as I say it’s just my hunch. He played first league game and then was benched for the next 2 league games. But he played in the cup. I imagine he expects to play every game. He should do.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:44 - Aug 28 with 1336 views
I remember one of the nails in GA’s coffin being the gaslighting (we’re lucky to be a champs club, Watford are champions-elect, we were great today (they were not great)).
Feels a bit like history repeating itself but this time it’s the suits. I don’t know how you change that, when the suits hold the strings.
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In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 12:53 - Aug 28 with 1158 views
In Advanced Talks With Edwards on 11:45 - Aug 28 by Stainrod
There is no way we can sign 2 or 3 CMs on top of Field, Varane, Hayden, Madsen, Morgan and Vale (even ignoring EDB and Richards). You might not think some or perhaps even all of those players are good enough but they are the players we have.
You can sign two or three CM as that list you gave is, well being really honest, not good enough. And this has been the same for the past 3 or 4 years.
£6m on Ronnie Edwards, who isn't really needed, or two x £3m CM signings? I know which signings would transform this team.
I like what CN has done overall, but not signing CM despite the problems last year is shockingly stupid.
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