| Marti, stick or twist? 18:34 - Apr 18 with 66092 views | Gloucs_R |
I'm really hoping all of the rumours about Marti leaving at the end of the season are untrue.
Consistency is absolutely key for us.
I think he's doing a decent job, definitely had his challenges this year.
What is everyone else's view?
Gary O'Neill would be my alternative if he were to depart. But I would much rather he was here next season. |  |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 20:11 - Apr 22 with 2266 views | hantssi |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 21:41 - Apr 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Even if I didn't rate Marti, which I do, the problems at this club do not lie with the manager. |
Hello Bazza, wondered if we’d see you on here again, haven’t see you post for a while. |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 21:18 - Apr 22 with 2138 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 20:11 - Apr 22 by hantssi |
Hello Bazza, wondered if we’d see you on here again, haven’t see you post for a while. |
Hmmm….. that sounds fishy. |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 21:31 - Apr 22 with 2107 views | hantssi |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 21:18 - Apr 22 by Ned_Kennedys |
Hmmm….. that sounds fishy. |
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Was actually legit, haven’t seen Bazza post for a while. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 22:30 - Apr 22 with 1989 views | JamesB1979 |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 20:57 - Apr 21 by NorrisGreen |
He's mentioned bettering last season's 56pts. Doubt we will frankly but it's a pretty spurious target anyway.
Last season has Ainsworth's appaling contribution. Strip that out and Marti achieved 48pts from 32 games which is 1.5pts per game and extrapolates to 69pts over a full season.
So, his points haul this season is pathetic by comparison and he has missed his personal target by a dozen points or more. He has patently gone backwards and you don't really need a calculator to see that.
I think he should go. He just doesn't get the EFL. |
The only thing I do agree with you on is this target of beating 56 points. We finished last season strongly and started this one terribly. Results are secondary in these last games. It’s all about the summer and 1) keeping Marti 2) sorting out the injury issues and 3) making 3-4 key additions (full backs, centre mid and striker). We do not need a major overhaul in manager and squad! | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 09:22 - Apr 23 with 1640 views | TheChef |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 22:30 - Apr 22 by JamesB1979 |
The only thing I do agree with you on is this target of beating 56 points. We finished last season strongly and started this one terribly. Results are secondary in these last games. It’s all about the summer and 1) keeping Marti 2) sorting out the injury issues and 3) making 3-4 key additions (full backs, centre mid and striker). We do not need a major overhaul in manager and squad! |
Surely 56 points at best this season.
We might beat Sunderland protecting players for the play offs, but no way we beat Burnley who are still chasing the title. |  |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:09 - Apr 23 with 1578 views | daveB |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 09:22 - Apr 23 by TheChef |
Surely 56 points at best this season.
We might beat Sunderland protecting players for the play offs, but no way we beat Burnley who are still chasing the title. |
I think we can beat Burnley, they are due a defeat and we do have it in us to beat them |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:27 - Apr 23 with 1523 views | Landshark |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:09 - Apr 23 by daveB |
I think we can beat Burnley, they are due a defeat and we do have it in us to beat them |
What is it in us that you can see to defeat Burnley?
Burnley, the team that have broken all sorts of defensive records this season, conceding just 15 goals...against our fearsome strikeforce?
I don't mind losing against Burnley, someone has to stop Leeds winning the league and our season is over. All this talk about finishing the season strongly to carry momentum into next season is nonsense as was shown from last season going into this season. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:48 - Apr 23 with 1490 views | lassel |
I don’t think matching the points total of last year really means much in the ultimate debrief of the season. Undoubtedly he and the club targeted more and if you’d got him over a nice Rioja pre-season he would’ve been quietly eyeing a playoff run or close to it, but when your best CB misses most of the season, your historic source of goals misses most of it, you spend half the season with no strikers and the seasons big statement signing takes 9 months to work out which foot his boots go on, to match that points tally, even in a poor league is a pretty solid result.
He’s not been perfect, but I’d say a solid B+A- for the report card. | | | |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:53 - Apr 23 with 1469 views | GaryHaddock |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:48 - Apr 23 by lassel |
I don’t think matching the points total of last year really means much in the ultimate debrief of the season. Undoubtedly he and the club targeted more and if you’d got him over a nice Rioja pre-season he would’ve been quietly eyeing a playoff run or close to it, but when your best CB misses most of the season, your historic source of goals misses most of it, you spend half the season with no strikers and the seasons big statement signing takes 9 months to work out which foot his boots go on, to match that points tally, even in a poor league is a pretty solid result.
He’s not been perfect, but I’d say a solid B+A- for the report card. |
Also not fussed about points tally.
Would rather risk losing by putting minutes into youngsters. |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:54 - Apr 23 with 1465 views | TheChef |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:09 - Apr 23 by daveB |
I think we can beat Burnley, they are due a defeat and we do have it in us to beat them |
I'll have whatever you're having Dave 
Just as long as we don't roll over and have our tummies tickled like Stoke did at Leeds (hint to manager: play Morrison and Edwards together at CB). | |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:03 - Apr 23 with 1439 views | Landshark |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:48 - Apr 23 by lassel |
I don’t think matching the points total of last year really means much in the ultimate debrief of the season. Undoubtedly he and the club targeted more and if you’d got him over a nice Rioja pre-season he would’ve been quietly eyeing a playoff run or close to it, but when your best CB misses most of the season, your historic source of goals misses most of it, you spend half the season with no strikers and the seasons big statement signing takes 9 months to work out which foot his boots go on, to match that points tally, even in a poor league is a pretty solid result.
He’s not been perfect, but I’d say a solid B+A- for the report card. |
Considering we don't have a striker we have actually not done too bad in scoring goals this season.
This season currently we have scored 48 goals (14th) with 20 scorers (2nd)
Last season 44 goals (22nd) with 16 scorers (15th)
22/23 - 43 goals (23rd) with 15 scorers (12th)
Were on an upward trajectory over the previous 3 seasons, it would be better if we had a striker that could get us 15 goals next season though. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:08 - Apr 23 with 1416 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:48 - Apr 23 by lassel |
I don’t think matching the points total of last year really means much in the ultimate debrief of the season. Undoubtedly he and the club targeted more and if you’d got him over a nice Rioja pre-season he would’ve been quietly eyeing a playoff run or close to it, but when your best CB misses most of the season, your historic source of goals misses most of it, you spend half the season with no strikers and the seasons big statement signing takes 9 months to work out which foot his boots go on, to match that points tally, even in a poor league is a pretty solid result.
He’s not been perfect, but I’d say a solid B+A- for the report card. |
I want him to stay but think that's far too generous. C- for me as it's been a lamentable season.
Marti gets away with a lot from the fans because it's assumed he's a victim and had signings foisted on him by Nourry but we don't know that. I can only judge him on how we've performed on the pitch and we've been poor for the majority of the season, often playing slow, insipid football like on Monday.
However, on the occasions when we have clicked, you can see how he wants us to play and he obviously can't be held responsible for the ridiculous injury situation. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:24 - Apr 23 with 1390 views | GaryHaddock |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:08 - Apr 23 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I want him to stay but think that's far too generous. C- for me as it's been a lamentable season.
Marti gets away with a lot from the fans because it's assumed he's a victim and had signings foisted on him by Nourry but we don't know that. I can only judge him on how we've performed on the pitch and we've been poor for the majority of the season, often playing slow, insipid football like on Monday.
However, on the occasions when we have clicked, you can see how he wants us to play and he obviously can't be held responsible for the ridiculous injury situation. |
‘Marti gets away with a lot from the fans because it's assumed he's a victim and had signings foisted on him by Nourry but we don't know that‘
So to be clear we don’t know enough to give him a pass but you know enough to give him the blame? | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:35 - Apr 23 with 1356 views | Harbour |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:09 - Apr 23 by daveB |
I think we can beat Burnley, they are due a defeat and we do have it in us to beat them |
Yes agreed we could beat them…like last year who thought we would put 4 past Leeds in the last game..if we get a few back it’s possible…although the draw looks likely..would love to beat them have found some of their fans a bit entitled. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:40 - Apr 23 with 1338 views | CroydonCaptJack |
Didn't we beat them the other year with less than 20% possession?
It would be so QPR to score two goals against them like no-one else has done. |  |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:48 - Apr 23 with 1322 views | lassel |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:08 - Apr 23 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I want him to stay but think that's far too generous. C- for me as it's been a lamentable season.
Marti gets away with a lot from the fans because it's assumed he's a victim and had signings foisted on him by Nourry but we don't know that. I can only judge him on how we've performed on the pitch and we've been poor for the majority of the season, often playing slow, insipid football like on Monday.
However, on the occasions when we have clicked, you can see how he wants us to play and he obviously can't be held responsible for the ridiculous injury situation. |
That’s a spectacularly ass about face response.
To summarise, on the few occasions he has been able to field a full team and play the way he wants to, you’ve enjoyed it. But for the majority of the season where you accept he has had to be pragmatic because of a crap squad and injury crisis that wasn’t his fault it been ‘insipid’ and therefore he’s done a poor job.
I don’t think you thought that one fully through. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:57 - Apr 23 with 1303 views | robith |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 10:27 - Apr 23 by Landshark |
What is it in us that you can see to defeat Burnley?
Burnley, the team that have broken all sorts of defensive records this season, conceding just 15 goals...against our fearsome strikeforce?
I don't mind losing against Burnley, someone has to stop Leeds winning the league and our season is over. All this talk about finishing the season strongly to carry momentum into next season is nonsense as was shown from last season going into this season. |
According to socials they all went out on the mega lash after the Sheff Utd game |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:58 - Apr 23 with 1296 views | robith |
I haven't read the thread, but i'd be stick stick stick stick stick.
I dread to think where we'd be without him | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 12:20 - Apr 23 with 1252 views | GaryHaddock |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:58 - Apr 23 by robith |
I haven't read the thread, but i'd be stick stick stick stick stick.
I dread to think where we'd be without him |
Not our best finish in three seasons that’s for sure. | | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 12:24 - Apr 23 with 1231 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:48 - Apr 23 by lassel |
That’s a spectacularly ass about face response.
To summarise, on the few occasions he has been able to field a full team and play the way he wants to, you’ve enjoyed it. But for the majority of the season where you accept he has had to be pragmatic because of a crap squad and injury crisis that wasn’t his fault it been ‘insipid’ and therefore he’s done a poor job.
I don’t think you thought that one fully through. |
Erm no, what I said was that he's had a free pass from many fans on how much say he had in assembling the 'crap squad'. Of course, we're not all ITK like you so we mere mortals can only speculate. [Post edited 23 Apr 12:27]
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 12:49 - Apr 23 with 1175 views | TheChef |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 11:57 - Apr 23 by robith |
According to socials they all went out on the mega lash after the Sheff Utd game |
Fairly sure they can still beat us pissed though. | |
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:15 - Apr 23 with 1093 views | GroveR |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 22:07 - Apr 21 by GaryHaddock |
For a few extra quid we should just get individual balloons rather than sharing one. |
It wants to be individual balloons as if you think I'm putting my balloon knot anywhere near a giant communal balloon knot, I'll have to disappoint you. |  | | |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:19 - Apr 23 with 1069 views | GaryHaddock |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:15 - Apr 23 by GroveR |
It wants to be individual balloons as if you think I'm putting my balloon knot anywhere near a giant communal balloon knot, I'll have to disappoint you. |
Absolutely.
Let’s bring some dignity to proceedings. [Post edited 23 Apr 13:20]
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:24 - Apr 23 with 1034 views | Northolt_Rs |
Cifuentes has performed a miracle keeping this terrible side in the Championship. It’s a pisspoor squad, decimated by injuries, slow as a rust, and with zero goal threat. Frey is our top scorer with 8 goals and then Jimmy Dunne with 5…. Without Martí this team gets relegated 100%. The recruitment has been abysmal for years and very little seems to be coming through the academy. Lots of other areas need to be fixed at our club before our 26-year old nobody CEO + DoF casts his eye on a new manager - anybody trust Nourry to get that right? [Post edited 23 Apr 23:10]
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| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:31 - Apr 23 with 996 views | Dorse |
| Marti, stick or twist? on 13:15 - Apr 23 by GroveR |
It wants to be individual balloons as if you think I'm putting my balloon knot anywhere near a giant communal balloon knot, I'll have to disappoint you. |
Fine. We'll send it as it is. |  |
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